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Desiderius

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Drug dealing is quite immoral.
Of course,Tony never harmed innocent people,pretty much all guys he wasted were complete douchebags.
So yeah,he has a code("my balls and my word,and I don't break 'em for no one"),but his drug dealing and overall violent life do make him evil. If we want to talk about alignment,I would sort him in Lawful Evil camp(with small chaotic inclinations,not necessarily chaotic evil ones).
NE works. Eating Souls is what hard drugs do. He got the power drained from them.
 

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That's how I felt also, lawful evil but if you didn't consider the drug trade evil, the vast majority of his actions were not really evil the more I think about it.
 

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More like chaotic self-absorbed ME-FIRST(TOO) Insane. They beg for cuckers and simps to feast upon as their appetites are unquenchable. Succubi extreme is all ways except many look worse than the porkers at a hog trough.
 

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Not every woman is vital. Some women lack the sexual energy from the beginning, the energy that is the cause and means of control over men. They are like cool stones, present, but immovable.
 
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Vulnerable as they should be, anything else destroys *muh immersion* and very few games have ever done so, and those are ones where I was forced to play a female. When I have a choice, it's always male because the game is worse otherwise.

I shouldn't have the same choices as a female as I do male, so the games letting me choose are off the table. That's just PC though, most games have some female NPCs done well.
 

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That's how I felt also, lawful evil but if you didn't consider the drug trade evil, the vast majority of his actions were not really evil the more I think about it.

Females have only two alignment - chaotic neutral or true neutral. They cannot be good or evil, because that presupposes having a moral sense.
No. Women are chaotic evil and make it their life's purpose to keep men divided so that men cannot perfect cloning and thus find the motivation to institute the Great Purging and create the Utopia.

 

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That's how I felt also, lawful evil but if you didn't consider the drug trade evil, the vast majority of his actions were not really evil the more I think about it.

Females have only two alignment - chaotic neutral or true neutral. They cannot be good or evil, because that presupposes having a moral sense.
No. Women are chaotic evil and make it their life's purpose to keep men divided so that men cannot perfect cloning and thus find the motivation to institute the Great Purging and create the Utopia.



Control over men is beginning and end of their ambitions, but they don't do that because bad will (at last not all of them). They're unstable, need somebody to defend them from threats of life.
 

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That's how I felt also, lawful evil but if you didn't consider the drug trade evil, the vast majority of his actions were not really evil the more I think about it.

Females have only two alignment - chaotic neutral or true neutral. They cannot be good or evil, because that presupposes having a moral sense.
No. Women are chaotic evil and make it their life's purpose to keep men divided so that men cannot perfect cloning and thus find the motivation to institute the Great Purging and create the Utopia.



Control over men is beginning and end of their ambitions, but they don't do that because bad will (at last not all of them). They're unstable, need somebody to defend them from threats of life.

Controllable men are poor protectors. This is backwards.

Woman will choose a bad man who can control her and threats to her and her children over good men who can/will not, if given the choice and sometimes even if not.
 

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That's how I felt also, lawful evil but if you didn't consider the drug trade evil, the vast majority of his actions were not really evil the more I think about it.

Females have only two alignment - chaotic neutral or true neutral. They cannot be good or evil, because that presupposes having a moral sense.
No. Women are chaotic evil and make it their life's purpose to keep men divided so that men cannot perfect cloning and thus find the motivation to institute the Great Purging and create the Utopia.



Control over men is beginning and end of their ambitions, but they don't do that because bad will (at last not all of them). They're unstable, need somebody to defend them from threats of life.

Controllable men are poor protectors. This is backwards.

Woman will choose a bad man who can control her and threats to her and her children over good men who can/will not, if given the choice and sometimes even if not.


Yes, but I talk about their motivations and morality. It'obvious that no one like man controled by a woman, including this woman.
 

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Female warriors were nearly non-existent in real life and for good reason.
Shouldn't most RPG parties be described as adventurers rather than warriors?

Adventurers (male or female) may fight bandits, civilians and monsters, but would need stealth or ambush tactics against whole army units. To me all of this sounds like believable activities for a few extraordinary males and (even fewer) females. But if it was believeable already in old mythology it should work in today's fantasy as well.

The term warrior implies more organized warfare, and then females should indeed be rare. However Roman encounters with female warriors are reported from 102/101 BCE and year 274 CE, while the 1st century Germanic women preferred to show their breasts to their male warriors as moral support.

The West African Dahomey Amazons are a modern example. These were recently portrayed as anti-slavery heroines in a dishonest Hollywood movie, while in reality they were brutal slave raiders, not ending their crimes against humanity until European colonialism brought peace and freedom to Africa. But I can understand Hollywood's need to lie, black Americans would perhaps not appreciate the enslavers of their ancestors being praised as strong black women...

I've never seen what's so exciting about digital and/or pixelated nudity, and seeing the works of modders who have never seen a real nude woman is cringeworthy. If I want boobs, I prefer real girls or pictures of real girls. So I have no need for chainmail bikinis and the likes, although I'm not against it either. I just think it looks rather silly.
Me neither, but if have to choose I rather see a chainmail bikini woman than one that's been intentionally uglified for ideological reasons by an SJW developer.

But it's not just the looks, many female voice actors (especially American) have always sounded unlikeable, with their smug and grating voices. Perhaps it's a cultural thing, but I can't stand hearing them.

Maybe it's different in your country, but my experience is that every woman who enters the weight room is a babe.
Alas most of them don't do any strength training (except for the booty), so I wouldn't rely on them for fighting...

But women that do train strength seriously can sometimes become much stronger than most men, here are a couple that surprised even me:



 

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Female warriors were nearly non-existent in real life and for good reason.
Shouldn't most RPG parties be described as adventurers rather than warriors?

Adventurers (male or female) may fight bandits, civilians and monsters, but would need stealth or ambush tactics against whole army units. To me all of this sounds like believable activities for a few extraordinary males and (even fewer) females. But if it was believeable already in old mythology it should work in today's fantasy as well.

The term warrior implies more organized warfare, and then females should indeed be rare. However Roman encounters with female warriors are reported from 102/101 BCE and year 274 CE, while the 1st century Germanic women preferred to show their breasts to their male warriors as moral support.

The West African Dahomey Amazons are a modern example. These were recently portrayed as anti-slavery heroines in a dishonest Hollywood movie, while in reality they were brutal slave raiders, not ending their crimes against humanity until European colonialism brought peace and freedom to Africa. But I can understand Hollywood's need to lie, black Americans would perhaps not appreciate the enslavers of their ancestors being praised as strong black women...

I've never seen what's so exciting about digital and/or pixelated nudity, and seeing the works of modders who have never seen a real nude woman is cringeworthy. If I want boobs, I prefer real girls or pictures of real girls. So I have no need for chainmail bikinis and the likes, although I'm not against it either. I just think it looks rather silly.
Me neither, but if have to choose I rather see a chainmail bikini woman than one that's been intentionally uglified for ideological reasons by an SJW developer.

But it's not just the looks, many female voice actors (especially American) have always sounded unlikeable, with their smug and grating voices. Perhaps it's a cultural thing, but I can't stand hearing them.

Maybe it's different in your country, but my experience is that every woman who enters the weight room is a babe.
Alas most of them don't do any strength training (except for the booty), so I wouldn't rely on them for fighting...

But women that do train strength seriously can sometimes become much stronger than most men, here are a couple that surprised even me:





Certainly there are a very small percentage of women who train with weights that are stronger than men who do not strength train or do so incorrectly. There's very little if any chance a woman who trains with weights will out lift a man who also does so when they are anywhere near the same size.

Performance enhancing drugs are quite prevalent in women's athletics as well and one does not automatically gain the muscle mass of a professional bodybuilder when they begin use of PEDs. The rock climbing chick could be natural and would represent the top 1% or less of women on earth in terms of strength/fitness.

I can't prove it but there's about 0% chance that powerlifter is natural.
 

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Ever since Thief 2 I've disliked seeing women as random mooks or bosses in games. I don't enjoy hacking and butchering waves of chicks. It's especially silly in settings like Fallout, where women would be far too precious to waste as raiders. They'd be concubines of the strongest warlords, and very happy about it.
 

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Nothing wrong with having female warriors in fantasy setting. Just like there is nothing wrong with that same characters being beautiful and dressed in chain bikinis.

Problem is that modern day outrage brigade wants women in fantasy settings (and all other settings) to be ugly and manly due "realism". But at the same time denying the truth that in case of realism women would not serve as warriors.
 

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My original love of fantasy RPG's comes from childhood fascination with the middle ages, so I prefer patriarchal structures and traditional gender roles in them. Too many women running around in armour and just acting like men makes the world seem implausible and breaks my suspension of disbelief. Bikini Barbarians and 80's fantasy aesthetics are also not my cup of tea.

Really like Witcher in that regard, sure you have the occasional woman with masculine traits and female rulers (nothing wrong with that) but they are presented as an exception to the rule.

In modern and Sci-Fi settings I don't really care.
 

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As a kid fantasy was a dude fighting monsters or flying atop an eagle with an axe or some big demon on the cover. Later, stuff like Heavy Metal magazine and awesome novel/album covers of the barbarian/warrior standing against hordes of enemies with hot chicks grasping his legs was a common theme. I honestly don’t recall when all this woman > man shit started in everything.
 

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Nothing wrong with having female warriors in fantasy setting. Just like there is nothing wrong with that same characters being beautiful and dressed in chain bikinis.

Problem is that modern day outrage brigade wants women in fantasy settings (and all other settings) to be ugly and manly due "realism". But at the same time denying the truth that in case of realism women would not serve as warriors.
Whoever started giving an inch to these kinds of "realism objections" should have been hanged as example to the others.

Whole idea of selective absolute adherence to "realism" in fiction very soon gets stupid and paradoxical.
So you end up with nation of unattractive women without even an exception.

Same thing happened with "chainmail bikinis" as "unrealistic" while completely missing the point of ceremonial uniforms and showing off of nobles and higher ups.
While low level grunts had whatever gear was the cheapest, Roman centurions i.e. had custom made, bronze-cast idealised form of torso as armor.
It was never neccessary for combat to be in that shape, but peacocking and signalling their status was a must.

Now, if you correlate even bigger and more fragile women egos and neverending battle for being the hottest chick around, I don't doubt that (if they existed) female warriors of noble descent would be half-naked, wearing ornamental armors that accentuate their body shape.
Which would be fabulous from all the care they put in.
 
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But women that do train strength seriously can sometimes become much stronger than most men, here are a couple that surprised even me:
Except that still doesn't mean anything in this discussion.

First, the average man should still be able to completely stomp over that strength training woman. If they can't, then they shouldn't even be called a man. Also those examples you gave don't translate to fighting. They'll still get shitstomped by a guy who can't show those same fits of strength.

But that regular guy shouldn't even be in the discussion. We're talking about a top percentile man, who will always crush a top percentile female.

There's other ways to depict a strong female character. I never once had a problem with Witcher portrayal. The lodge of sorceresses are one of if not the most powerful people in the world. Most of that comes through their political savvy, and in a battle they're strong because they're literal magicians. But even then, they're still glass cannons. They're not in the front lines actually fighting, but safely kept in the back. Then there's Saskia, who's a literal dragon, not a human lol The kings are male, the warriors are male. Can't speak for thronebreaker, never played it.

Gothic showed the absence of muh strong female creates an atmosphere unrivaled by any game trying to be inclusive. Even if the other games have better mechanics, C&C, etc., Gothic shows those other games could get even better with accurate protrayals.

There's only 2 valid reasons these retarded portrayals of females shouldn't bother you:

1. Seeing hot girls in armour is more important to you than a well constructed world.

2. You're autistic enough to get lost in a stupidly high fantasy world and headcannon every instance of a female showing up where she shouldn't
 

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But women that do train strength seriously can sometimes become much stronger than most men, here are a couple that surprised even me:
Except that still doesn't mean anything in this discussion.

First, the average man should still be able to completely stomp over that strength training woman. If they can't, then they shouldn't even be called a man. Also those examples you gave don't translate to fighting. They'll still get shitstomped by a guy who can't show those same fits of strength.

But that regular guy shouldn't even be in the discussion. We're talking about a top percentile man, who will always crush a top percentile female.

There's other ways to depict a strong female character. I never once had a problem with Witcher portrayal. The lodge of sorceresses are one of if not the most powerful people in the world. Most of that comes through their political savvy, and in a battle they're strong because they're literal magicians. But even then, they're still glass cannons. They're not in the front lines actually fighting, but safely kept in the back. Then there's Saskia, who's a literal dragon, not a human lol The kings are male, the warriors are male. Can't speak for thronebreaker, never played it.

Gothic showed the absence of muh strong female creates an atmosphere unrivaled by any game trying to be inclusive. Even if the other games have better mechanics, C&C, etc., Gothic shows those other games could get even better with accurate protrayals.

There's only 2 valid reasons these retarded portrayals of females shouldn't bother you:

1. Seeing hot girls in armour is more important to you than a well constructed world.

2. You're autistic enough to get lost in a stupidly high fantasy world and headcannon every instance of a female showing up where she shouldn't
Bene Gesserit from Dune are frightening, and yet none of them lifted a sword.
But that would be "female stereotype" of witches, and feminists don't want that.
What they want is to destroy whatever males enjoy with their constant yammering.
 

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i don't give a fuck about realism. if wommyn character is pretty and not annoying she can be whatever class she wants.
 

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