Of female characters in RPG's

[Cael]

Although I find it hilarious that the pro-Evil side is so defensive about how I play MY characters. "You must play Evil characters or you have psychological issues!!!" Fucking dramafags.

One day earlier:

Actually, it does. I, for one, can't even make the decision to murder innocents in a RP game for the lulz. As in physically cannot hit the button that will set my toon to go on a murder spree. For people to gleefully egg each other on to great and great atrocities does point to some flaw in their psychological make-up.

Some of us see no reason to compromise our ethics for make-believe. Especially for make-believe. Games like DnD are power fantasies. If your power fantasy is to abuse others, then it says a lot about you as a person underneath that veneer that civilisation has impressed upon us all.

Correct. The key phrase is "abuse others". Executing someone without qualm when they deserve it is NOT abuse. Taking out an abuser is not abuse. The fact that people like you think they are is why the world is so fucked up today. But then again, fucked up people like you claim that destroying someone's life, starving their family, hounding them to suicide because they dare disagree with you is OK because it was done in the name of tolerance, compassion and justice. You sick lot actually believe that is Good behaviour.

 

[Cael]

So, if I decide to kill an innocent npc in a game in order to rob them, that means society is declining?

Interesting thesis, professor.

There is much more important consideration, can you Romance an evil character and does that make you evil in a RPG?

I think its fine because of redemption stories and similar things. Myself ,Non-Edgy Gamer and many other have debated this for decades and opinion seems split and then what about a Lolth Romance arc where Lolth becomes good, why cant you Romance her in her hot female Drow form?

Why is romancing someone a Good or Evil thing in the first place? Surely what you do in order to romance her is far more important than the actual romance.

 

[KainenMorden]

Interesting, in my opinion, associating with evil is always tough to pass a determination on.

If you ally with a lich or a demon in order to destroy a greater threat, some DMs would say, you are committing an evil act even though your actions will contribute to the greater good.

Another consideration, does being good mean that you never do anything that could be seen as evil? Can a Cleric or perhaps a Paladin never ask their god or the universe to absolve their sins if they are truly repentant and/or perform some type of penance?

As far as romance, well, since there's a few autists that love to talk about real life, I definitely was romantically involved with a few women that I consider evil even though I consider myself good.

I too believe in redemption arcs. Also, I think its weird to want to romance female characters in an rpg but its understandable and nowhere in the same realm of weird as playing as a female when you are biologically male and claim to be straight.

 

[Cael]

What is with you guys and your obsession with harming children?

Who the fuck was in here saying they want to play as an evil character to kill kids?

Umm, no one. Its the guys that think people who would dare roleplay an evil character are actually evil people irl who brought up killing and even raping children.

Its very sick but the rape part, well, why would you bring this up when there isn't even a video game where you can do this?

Somethings not right here.

Also, never said you must play evil characters or you have psychological issues. Inferring that anyone who plays evil characters is actually evil and would do the things that they do in a fantasy world video game irl if they could is what makes me think you need to take a break from the internet and gaming and check into the cuckoo's nest.

Oh, so you play someone who turns Coke into Pepsi and consider that the Ultimate Evil? Well, then. Carry on.

 

[BruceVC]

So, if I decide to kill an innocent npc in a game in order to rob them, that means society is declining?

Interesting thesis, professor.

There is much more important consideration, can you Romance an evil character and does that make you evil in a RPG?

I think its fine because of redemption stories and similar things. Myself ,Non-Edgy Gamer and many other have debated this for decades and opinion seems split and then what about a Lolth Romance arc where Lolth becomes good, why cant you Romance her in her hot female Drow form?

Why is romancing someone a Good or Evil thing in the first place? Surely what you do in order to romance her is far more important than the actual romance.

Thats a good point, it depends on what you do to initiate the Romance because that could change or influence your moral compass and integrity

 

[KainenMorden]

I play someone that might kill someone for any reason but has a code, no kids.

But often the elderly and women can be dangerous combatants in crpgs so, they have to die too.

Also if the kid was a bhaalspawn or something, I guess that would also complicate this code, the more that I think about it....

If you're so good, what if a diviner knew for a fact that a certain child would grow up to destroy the world and must be stopped before he grows up and becomes too powerful?

What would you do?

 

[KainenMorden]

I see it more as, if you know your girlfriend is a vicious murderer and don't stop her, aren't you evil as well?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Bwahahahaha! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Orwell would be proud of you. What a load of leftard drek. "I do Evil things for the lulz, but you are the psychopath!" Typical hypocritical cuntism coming out right there.

You don't see what could be fun about, say, roleplaying as a sith lord in KotOR? Or a dastardly wizard in any fantasy RPG? Have you never played Wizardry 4 on the grounds that you have to play as Werdna killing heroic adventurers, and that would be wrong? Have you never done a Legion playthrough of Fallout New Vegas?

no
I only play characters that represent myself in another world. The best games for this are ones that allow me to max every stat btw.

 

[NecroLord]

no
I only play characters that represent myself in another world. The best games for this are ones that allow me to max every stat btw.

 

[Cael]

So, if I decide to kill an innocent npc in a game in order to rob them, that means society is declining?

Interesting thesis, professor.

There is much more important consideration, can you Romance an evil character and does that make you evil in a RPG?

I think its fine because of redemption stories and similar things. Myself ,Non-Edgy Gamer and many other have debated this for decades and opinion seems split and then what about a Lolth Romance arc where Lolth becomes good, why cant you Romance her in her hot female Drow form?

Why is romancing someone a Good or Evil thing in the first place? Surely what you do in order to romance her is far more important than the actual romance.

Thats a good point, it depends on what you do to initiate the Romance because that could change or influence your moral compass and integrity

Initiate and keep it going. For example, Morrigan in DA is supposedly the "Evil" romance option, but nothing she asks of you is really Evil. Viconia in BG2 is pretty similar. What did she require you do that would be considered "Evil".

On the other hand, we have real life examples of men and women who gave into their bot/girlfriends' demand of murdering someone for either money or kicks.

Which would you consider Evil? The person who romanced the drow or the person who romanced the real life psycho?

The point is that romance itself is neither Good nor Evil. It is what you do that makes you Good or Evil.

 

[BruceVC]

So, if I decide to kill an innocent npc in a game in order to rob them, that means society is declining?

Interesting thesis, professor.

There is much more important consideration, can you Romance an evil character and does that make you evil in a RPG?

I think its fine because of redemption stories and similar things. Myself ,Non-Edgy Gamer and many other have debated this for decades and opinion seems split and then what about a Lolth Romance arc where Lolth becomes good, why cant you Romance her in her hot female Drow form?

Why is romancing someone a Good or Evil thing in the first place? Surely what you do in order to romance her is far more important than the actual romance.

Thats a good point, it depends on what you do to initiate the Romance because that could change or influence your moral compass and integrity

Initiate and keep it going. For example, Morrigan in DA is supposedly the "Evil" romance option, but nothing she asks of you is really Evil. Viconia in BG2 is pretty similar. What did she require you do that would be considered "Evil".

On the other hand, we have real life examples of men and women who gave into their bot/girlfriends' demand of murdering someone for either money or kicks.

Which would you consider Evil? The person who romanced the drow or the person who romanced the real life psycho?

The point is that romance itself is neither Good nor Evil. It is what you do that makes you Good or Evil.

Its true, the evil Romance options end up Romancing you if you good without trying to change your moral compass

It would be more exciting to see companion side quests where you potentially end up becoming corrupted if you pursue a certain Romance arc

 

[Cael]

So, if I decide to kill an innocent npc in a game in order to rob them, that means society is declining?

Interesting thesis, professor.

There is much more important consideration, can you Romance an evil character and does that make you evil in a RPG?

I think its fine because of redemption stories and similar things. Myself ,Non-Edgy Gamer and many other have debated this for decades and opinion seems split and then what about a Lolth Romance arc where Lolth becomes good, why cant you Romance her in her hot female Drow form?

Why is romancing someone a Good or Evil thing in the first place? Surely what you do in order to romance her is far more important than the actual romance.

Thats a good point, it depends on what you do to initiate the Romance because that could change or influence your moral compass and integrity

Initiate and keep it going. For example, Morrigan in DA is supposedly the "Evil" romance option, but nothing she asks of you is really Evil. Viconia in BG2 is pretty similar. What did she require you do that would be considered "Evil".

On the other hand, we have real life examples of men and women who gave into their bot/girlfriends' demand of murdering someone for either money or kicks.

Which would you consider Evil? The person who romanced the drow or the person who romanced the real life psycho?

The point is that romance itself is neither Good nor Evil. It is what you do that makes you Good or Evil.

Its true, the evil Romance options end up Romancing you if you good without trying to change your moral compass

It would be more exciting to see companion side quests where you potentially end up becoming corrupted if you pursue a certain Romance arc

I hate to bring it up, but Dorn's romance option in BG2:EE supposedly does do this. You'll have to ask the psycho we have here if that is true or not. I haven't played BG2:EE.

 

[BruceVC]

Bwahahahaha! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Orwell would be proud of you. What a load of leftard drek. "I do Evil things for the lulz, but you are the psychopath!" Typical hypocritical cuntism coming out right there.

You don't see what could be fun about, say, roleplaying as a sith lord in KotOR? Or a dastardly wizard in any fantasy RPG? Have you never played Wizardry 4 on the grounds that you have to play as Werdna killing heroic adventurers, and that would be wrong? Have you never done a Legion playthrough of Fallout New Vegas?

no
I only play characters that represent myself in another world. The best games for this are ones that allow me to max every stat btw.

And how would you best describe yourself in RL and how does this influence your characters personality because obviously its still a fantasy game and your RP style wont be exactly the same as RL?

As I mentioned I RP on the Savage Sword of Conan alignment but somethings I do in a game are not the same as RL, for example I am generally a wizard and Conan has a general distrust of magic

 

[KainenMorden]

Savage sword of conan? that's a game?

 

[BruceVC]

Savage sword of conan? that's a game?

No its a famous comic of Conan that I collect and it includes the stories from the books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Sword_of_Conan

 

[KainenMorden]

Yeah I knew about that, what do you mean you rp it?

 

[BruceVC]

Yeah I knew about that, what do you mean you rp it?

His personality and choices. He is ostensibly CG, honorable, never says no to a hot bar wench, appreciates and seeks wealth and adventure but intrinsically he does not commit wanton acts of evil

 

[KainenMorden]

Oh, I understand now, that's cool.

 

[Semiurge]

No comment.

Anyways, does anyone else think its incredibly autistic to think that anyone who wants to roleplay as a villain is a psycho that needs to be imprisoned/put to death in real life?

I never expected to read something like that. Also very telling how they go right to raping children when that doesn't even exist in any video game that I've ever heard of.

You can definitely play an evil personality in many RPG, I dont do it personally but it has huge popularity. In fact I have often read on various forums specific to a game discussions around an " evil build ". Just go to the Beamdog BG1&2 forums to see the debates

It doesnt necessarily mean anything to your RL personality, its just a RP choice in a game?

Actually, it does. I, for one, can't even make the decision to murder innocents in a RP game for the lulz. As in physically cannot hit the button that will set my toon to go on a murder spree. For people to gleefully egg each other on to great and great atrocities does point to some flaw in their psychological make-up.

I dont either in RPG and I would feel guilty if I did but if I think of games like GTA or RDR I often kill civilians and police and yet I support the police in RL and would never advocate for killing them or defunding them in any Democracy

Like in your case, making the player character act against the template set by the game feels wrong, and also includes penalties that will diminish the enjoyment derived from the game. In RPGs your PC will almost always be railroaded into a hero, but in GTA an anti-hero is the most moral character you can play as. Both can be entertaining unless you're like Cael, who has not made peace with his dark side.

 

[Nano]

It reminds me of something that happened to my gaming buddy. He was in a role playing group and played some Evil rogue character. The party had captured some prisoner and were discussing what to do with him, when his character slit the prisoner's throat. He's the nicest guy in real life and he was just role playing his character, but was kicked out of the group for actually role playing his evil character.

I hope he at least tortured and/or raped the prisoner first, because just straight up killing him wouldn't be any fun.

 

[KainenMorden]

Well there's certainly atleast 1 person in this thread that deserves to be raped and tortured.

 

[HereticGuy]

* Opens up rpgcodex to see how monocled arguments going on at the threads I've been following...

Well there's certainly atleast 1 person in this thread that deserves to be raped and tortured.

Holy sheeeeeiiiit!

 

[KainenMorden]

Do you think I'm an evil person that needs to be imprisoned for life because I would have sex with prostitutes and then kill them in GTA to get my money back?

Also, how many players do you think lived out their fantasy of indiscriminately murdering a bunch of minorities and women through the GTA series?

 

[KainenMorden]

I was pushed to this, HereticGuy.

That's the justification my evil character would use atleast.

 

[octavius]

It reminds me of something that happened to my gaming buddy. He was in a role playing group and played some Evil rogue character. The party had captured some prisoner and were discussing what to do with him, when his character slit the prisoner's throat. He's the nicest guy in real life and he was just role playing his character, but was kicked out of the group for actually role playing his evil character.

I hope he at least tortured and/or raped the prisoner first, because just straight up killing him wouldn't be any fun.

He didn't have Time Stop spell. Otherwise it would have been kind of awkward with the rest of party in the same room.