Of female characters in RPG's

[KainenMorden]

Ok, now I've really had enough of this thread and need to get off my phone and codex for the rest of the day, thanks guys!

 

[Desiderius]

Citation needed? Here you go:

https://www.unz.com/isteve/its-time-to-tell-the-truth/

https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-unabombers-autogynephilic-transgenderism/

 

[Baron Dupek]

They weren't immortal in fall out or deus ex....

but can they swim?

 

[KainenMorden]

No comment.

Anyways, does anyone else think its incredibly autistic to think that anyone who wants to roleplay as a villain is a psycho that needs to be imprisoned/put to death in real life?

I never expected to read something like that. Also very telling how they go right to raping children when that doesn't even exist in any video game that I've ever heard of.

 

[KainenMorden]

Very informative posts, I honestly appreciate them.

As far as bantus are concerned, there was always quite a bit of push back against Floyd however, the population of those of european descent in any major city is almost always incredibly liberal.

Interestingly enough, it seems that now that those liberals of european descent have actually met the "people" that they constantly defend as "victims" through the course of the Floyd "protests", suddenly less and less of them show up for future "protests".

Bantu descended "people" are still being erased by police at the same rate and there are still complaints from their communities but other communities no longer support them as they once did and their gatherings remain small and inconsequential. For now.

 

[luj1]

Greetings.
How do you prefer female characters to be portrayed in RPG's? Do you like them as chainmail bikini barbarians? Rogue/Bard type characters like Leliana or Sharwyn? Spellcasters?
Or do you like them "-4 Str go back to the kitchen"?
Finally,should there even be women in RPG's?

back in the day this wasnt a problem

did anyone complain about Lara Croft or Blood Rayne being stronk wombyns? No

You could have portrayed women however you liked. Anyone remember Lula3D and WET: The Sexy Empire?

The problem is that politics and the internet advance uncontrollably and mesh together with our reality, creating new paradigms. Meanwhile culture and education declines

TLDR fall of civilization

 

[Semiurge]

You sure its that or do you actually wish deep down you were pretty like a woman?

What's wrong with that? Don't tell me that crossdressing isn't a forbidden fantasy every man has, to at least once dress up as a woman? Or to "peacock"? Gay has nothing to do with it.

 

[NecroLord]

back in the day this wasnt a problem

did anyone complain about Lara Croft or Blood Rayne being stronk wombyns? No

You could have portrayed women however you liked. Anyone remember Lula3D and WET: The Sexy Empire?

The problem is that politics and the internet advance uncontrollably and mesh together with our reality, creating new paradigms. Meanwhile culture and education declines

TLDR fall of civilization

Wholeheartedly agree.
It really wasn't an issue at all.
Women could be 10/10 hotties and no one complained about it.

 

[KainenMorden]

Haha well that is the argument many here seem to be making. I suggest those parties seek therapy immediately.

 

[HereticGuy]

did anyone complain about Lara Croft or Blood Rayne being stronk wombyns? No

I wanna add Konoko from Oni and Julie from Heavy Metal FAKK 2 as well. They were strong and hot chicks I miss today.

 

[NecroLord]

 

[Semiurge]

FAKK

 

[BruceVC]

No comment.

Anyways, does anyone else think its incredibly autistic to think that anyone who wants to roleplay as a villain is a psycho that needs to be imprisoned/put to death in real life?

I never expected to read something like that. Also very telling how they go right to raping children when that doesn't even exist in any video game that I've ever heard of.

You can definitely play an evil personality in many RPG, I dont do it personally but it has huge popularity. In fact I have often read on various forums specific to a game discussions around an " evil build ". Just go to the Beamdog BG1&2 forums to see the debates

It doesnt necessarily mean anything to your RL personality, its just a RP choice in a game?

 

[LarryTyphoid]

Female characters can work fine enough in party-based RPGs, but for single-character RPGs like The Elder Scrolls, the female protagonist option is usually something that's out of place, in my opinion. I often pick a female PC for my second playthrough of RPGs that give you the option, and while some games like Fallout do have a lot of changed dialogue, the structure of the game is almost always unfitting. Fully grown, able-bodied men will ask a strange woman that came out of nowhere to fight monsters, confront criminals, and generally solve all the problems, even in a town full of men. It kinda makes sense for a male PC, because you might expect an armed traveler to be able to accomplish things that normal townsmen couldn't, but for a woman it's just bizarre. It's like every male quest-giver is a complete cuck with no pride, that they'd lower themselves to ask a woman to perform physical feats that they are themselves supposedly incapable of. In most games a female protagonist option is immersion-breaking and out of place.

It works better in a light-hearted game. I'm playing Dragon Quest 4 now, and the protagonist of the second chapter, Alena, is a tomboyish princess who's freakishly strong. The first thing you do is go against the wishes of the king, by escaping the castle by kicking a hole through a brick wall. It's played for laughs and I never felt like Alena was too masculine or that she was making the men look like idiots (though I'm playing the NES version, in which she is a silent protagonist; I've heard the remakes give her boisterous dialogue and make her two male party members wimps; but even then, it's for the sake of comedy). More examples are the later Ultima games, in which the PC is already an established legendary figure, so it's fair enough that NPCs would ask for her help (especially since she will invariably be accompanied by several heavily-armed men). Those games also have lots of funny altered sequences, like the stage play of Ultima 7; the actor playing the Avatar is still a man, like he would be if the PC were male, but he's wearing a wig and speaking in falsetto.

 

[Cael]

No comment.

Anyways, does anyone else think its incredibly autistic to think that anyone who wants to roleplay as a villain is a psycho that needs to be imprisoned/put to death in real life?

I never expected to read something like that. Also very telling how they go right to raping children when that doesn't even exist in any video game that I've ever heard of.

You can definitely play an evil personality in many RPG, I dont do it personally but it has huge popularity. In fact I have often read on various forums specific to a game discussions around an " evil build ". Just go to the Beamdog BG1&2 forums to see the debates

It doesnt necessarily mean anything to your RL personality, its just a RP choice in a game?

Actually, it does. I, for one, can't even make the decision to murder innocents in a RP game for the lulz. As in physically cannot hit the button that will set my toon to go on a murder spree. For people to gleefully egg each other on to great and great atrocities does point to some flaw in their psychological make-up.

 

[BruceVC]

No comment.

Anyways, does anyone else think its incredibly autistic to think that anyone who wants to roleplay as a villain is a psycho that needs to be imprisoned/put to death in real life?

I never expected to read something like that. Also very telling how they go right to raping children when that doesn't even exist in any video game that I've ever heard of.

You can definitely play an evil personality in many RPG, I dont do it personally but it has huge popularity. In fact I have often read on various forums specific to a game discussions around an " evil build ". Just go to the Beamdog BG1&2 forums to see the debates

It doesnt necessarily mean anything to your RL personality, its just a RP choice in a game?

Actually, it does. I, for one, can't even make the decision to murder innocents in a RP game for the lulz. As in physically cannot hit the button that will set my toon to go on a murder spree. For people to gleefully egg each other on to great and great atrocities does point to some flaw in their psychological make-up.

I dont either in RPG and I would feel guilty if I did but if I think of games like GTA or RDR I often kill civilians and police and yet I support the police in RL and would never advocate for killing them or defunding them in any Democracy

 

[Cael]

No comment.

Anyways, does anyone else think its incredibly autistic to think that anyone who wants to roleplay as a villain is a psycho that needs to be imprisoned/put to death in real life?

I never expected to read something like that. Also very telling how they go right to raping children when that doesn't even exist in any video game that I've ever heard of.

You can definitely play an evil personality in many RPG, I dont do it personally but it has huge popularity. In fact I have often read on various forums specific to a game discussions around an " evil build ". Just go to the Beamdog BG1&2 forums to see the debates

It doesnt necessarily mean anything to your RL personality, its just a RP choice in a game?

Actually, it does. I, for one, can't even make the decision to murder innocents in a RP game for the lulz. As in physically cannot hit the button that will set my toon to go on a murder spree. For people to gleefully egg each other on to great and great atrocities does point to some flaw in their psychological make-up.

I dont either in RPG and I would feel guilty if I did but if I think of games like GTA or RDR I often kill civilians and police and yet I support the police in RL and would never advocate for killing them or defunding them in any Democracy

I don't play those types of games for a reason...

 

[octavius]

You know, the thing about role playing is that you play a character that is different from you, like most good actors do.

It reminds me of something that happened to my gaming buddy. He was in a role playing group and played some Evil rogue character. The party had captured some prisoner and were discussing what to do with him, when his character slit the prisoner's throat. He's the nicest guy in real life and he was just role playing his character, but was kicked out of the group for actually role playing his evil character.

 

[Cael]

You know, the thing about role playing is that you play a character that is different from you, like most good actors do.

It reminds me of something that happened to my gaming buddy. He was in a role playing group and played some Evil rogue character. The party had captured some prisoner and were discussing what to do with him, when his character slit the prisoner's throat. He's the nicest guy in real life and he was just role playing his character, but was kicked out of the group for actually role playing his evil character.

Ethics prevents that. Not everyone is an attention whore or a prostitute. Some of us actually stick with our set of ethics.

 

[octavius]

Some of us are able to distinguish between real life and make-believe.

 

[Cael]

Some of us are able to distinguish between real life and make-believe.

Some of us see no reason to compromise our ethics for make-believe. Especially for make-believe. Games like DnD are power fantasies. If your power fantasy is to abuse others, then it says a lot about you as a person underneath that veneer that civilisation has impressed upon us all.

 

[octavius]

Some of us are able to distinguish between real life and make-believe.

Some of us see no reason to compromise our ethics for make-believe. Especially for make-believe. Games like DnD are power fantasies. If your power fantasy is to abuse others, then it says a lot about you as a person underneath that veneer that civilisation has impressed upon us all.

Your assumption actually says more about you than it says about me.

 

[Cael]

Some of us are able to distinguish between real life and make-believe.

Some of us see no reason to compromise our ethics for make-believe. Especially for make-believe. Games like DnD are power fantasies. If your power fantasy is to abuse others, then it says a lot about you as a person underneath that veneer that civilisation has impressed upon us all.

Your assumption actually says more about you than it says about me.

Not assumption. Judgement.

 

[LarryTyphoid]

Another great example of an RPG handling female characters is Mount and Blade: Warband. It's a medieval society so female PCs will be scoffed at by most characters you meet (sans a handful of simps). Starting off is more difficult as a result (and considered a harder difficulty option by the game itself), but a woman gets famous for great feats faster than a man, for obvious reasons, so by the mid-game your character will be benefiting from proto-feminism. I think there's no difference between men and women in actual combat, though, and you can still recruit soldiers and get quests no problem, so being a man is still the superior roleplay option.

 

[Sarathiour]

Infinitron Please explain why the fuck was the whole thread moved to gaming drama.