Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Larianshill]

It probably was, I misremembered.

 

[MerchantKing]

DON'T YOU DARE CELEBRATE THIS NEWS CHUDS!

I wouldn't call Bioware a "Pioneer." There is nothing Bioware has done that wasn't already in a pornographic Japanese Visual Novel before they were even founded.

 

[Terra]

This was Veilguard's target audience, Inquisition fans who came for gay sex with qunari. They've hated the originals. Hideous displays.

It's become clear over time that the biggest threat to any continuing series is ironically new fans (and the shit taste and ideas they bring to the table). They come in, always late to the party and eventually become emboldened, laying out that they actually thought that the developer's past portfolio was shit/boring/terrible all along and that the developer should continue to pivot toward a new direction with their future games. Saw it play out with both DA2 (dipshits wanting voiced protags/dialogue wheels, hating on silent protag) & DA3 (hating on the already compromised tactical combat, pushing for full on action RPG direction) they have zero respect for the foundations something was built upon and are seemingly oblivious to the fact that if older fans hadn't bought prior games from a developer, you know, the "boring" games like Baldurs Gate, DA Origins, the current game that they seek to further corrupt, wouldn't even exist. Looks like with Veilguard some of these types became part of the development and it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy from there.

 

[Larianshill]

It's become clear over time that the biggest threat to any continuing series is ironically new fans (and the shit taste and ideas they bring to the table). They come in, always late to the party and eventually become emboldened, laying out that they actually thought that the developer's past portfolio was shit/boring/terrible all along and that the developer should continue to pivot toward a new direction with their future games. Saw it play out with both DA2 (dipshits wanting voiced protags/dialogue wheels, hating on silent protag) & DA3 (hating on the already compromised tactical combat, pushing for full on action RPG direction) they have zero respect for the foundations something was built upon and are seemingly oblivious to the fact that if older fans hadn't bought prior games from a developer, you know, the "boring" games like Baldurs Gate, DA Origins, the current game that they seek to further corrupt, wouldn't even exist. Looks like with Veilguard some of these types became part of the development and it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy from there.

Yeah. The biggest cancer upon Star Wars (aside from Disney) are the "fans" who didn't like a single movie before the Last Jedi came and "elevated the franchise".

 

[Decado]

This was Veilguard's target audience, Inquisition fans who came for gay sex with qunari. They've hated the originals. Hideous displays.

I dont have the will to read the retardera thread again but there was a comment saying something akin to 'Origins being too edgy and that Bioware unfortunately never managed to shed the franchise's dark fantasy roots'. Origins being edgy/dark fantasy was pretty much the only good thing it had going for it imo, its no surprise that as Bioware itself was sanitized they also cut back on their franchises and they became safer and uninteresting.

Dark fantasy was part of the identity of the entire pitch and setting. It's literally the only raison d'etre of the franchise ffs. What a retard.

Just play Kingdoms of Amalur ffs.

People tend to forget that Dragon Age Origins was being developed at the (then) height of GRRM's Game of Thrones series. His books at that point had sold 10s of millions of copies, and his show was in development at HBO. "Dark fantasy" was all over the fucking place, and DA:O was pitched to be in that vein. People couldn't get enough of it.

And even then the so-called "edginess" of DA:O was muted by comparison to anything put out by Martin or anyone else. The idea that BioWare needed to dial back those themes is fucking retarded. Reset Era posters really are the dumbest fucks imaginable.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Going to watch Yahtzee now...

>Didn't mention Taash
>Didn't mention a single one of the cringe scene
>Didn't mention the trans mirror

Yahtzee lost his touch. What a complete waste of time.

Pretty sure that guy was never going to mention any of the third-rail culture war shit. To my recollection, he never has. He's a typical British lib, and he lives in California. He's not going to criticize anything trans.

Not quite. I used to listen to his old Let's Plays.
He was a mildly edgy "South Park Libertarian" type of guy in the past. But mostly a fence sitter.
Moving to US and the first Trump term turned him into a generic lib. But mostly a fence sitter.

 

[Butter]

 

[Larianshill]

Nominee for what, Steam? Nominee for what?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Nominee for what, Steam? Nominee for what?

A participation award.

 

[Tyranicon]

Being lol-tier snubbed by the Game Awards of all things should be a career ending move tbh.

 

[jaekl]

Nominated for innovation in accessibility. As in, they made it accessible to everyone with an internet connection by removing the DRM, but still nobody played it. Very impressive.

 

[Harthwain]

Nominee for what, Steam? Nominee for what?

Inclusivity in Accessibility Award. I kid you not:

Spoiler

 

[Larianshill]

I knew that, it was a rhetorical question. It's just deceptive that Steam tells you it's competing and might receive an award, but doesn't inform you it's competing in the Paralympic games.

 

[Warrax]

In that DA:O documentary it was explained that the DA setting is a cross between Tolkien and George Martin. As in, a grimdark fantasy world with factions and politics and shades of grey, in which you can still try to play a classic fantasy hero who fights evil. This is a great concept because it has tension and tragic conflict built right into it. It's also something no one else has done.

Now John "return to form" Epler was made Narrative Director for DA five years ago, and Creative Director two years ago. You listen to him talk and it's all hero this, hero that, no mention of the grit that was designed to counterbalance that heroic aspect. He's taken out one side of the formula that gave creative tension to the whole concept. Of course it becomes generic Marvel slop that doesn't work.

Everything Epler and Busche say in public sounds like obnoxious gaslighting. They go on and on about return to form and refocusing on characters and story while obviously doing the exact opposite. It's unclear who they're trying to fool.

 

[jackofshadows]

Yes, they're hopeless hacks. The coolest thing about DA:O was the fact that aside from playing a hero you could do so much edgy shit it seems unreal today looking at DATV. But not even for shit and giggles mind you but for the cause. Getting the blood mage specialization is a highlight of that. If only sacrificing Taash would be possible let alone bring any benefits in recent installment.

 

[Skinwalker]

What if Biowhore finally gets shut down, the Dragon Age IP gets sold to a normal studio, and they make a sequel that totally ignores everything that happened in Vilefart?

 

[Anonymous Ranger]

What is Biowhore finally gets shut down, the Dragon Age IP gets sold to a normal studio, and they make a sequel that totally ignores everything that happened in Vilefart?

I wish but that’s probably not going to happen. Anyways they really should ignore everything past awakening instead of just Veilgaurd.

 

[Tyranicon]

Is anybody surprised that Kotaku is melting down over this?

 

[mediocrepoet]

What is Biowhore finally gets shut down, the Dragon Age IP gets sold to a normal studio, and they make a sequel that totally ignores everything that happened in Vilefart?

I wish but that’s probably not going to happen. Anyways they really should ignore everything past awakening Origins instead of just Veilgaurd.

I agree completely.

 

[Larianshill]

All of Kotaku's writers need to follow Alyssa Mercante.

 

[mediocrepoet]

All of Kotaku's writers need to follow Alyssa Mercante.

Into the oven.

 

[Skinwalker]

What is Biowhore finally gets shut down, the Dragon Age IP gets sold to a normal studio, and they make a sequel that totally ignores everything that happened in Vilefart?

I wish but that’s probably not going to happen. Anyways they really should ignore everything past awakening instead of just Veilgaurd.

But nothing happens in DAII, so why even bother ignoring it.

 

[Anonymous Ranger]

What is Biowhore finally gets shut down, the Dragon Age IP gets sold to a normal studio, and they make a sequel that totally ignores everything that happened in Vilefart?

I wish but that’s probably not going to happen. Anyways they really should ignore everything past awakening instead of just Veilgaurd.

But nothing happens in DAII, so why even bother ignoring it.

I like the part where Anders tricks you into making a bomb and then tries to rope you into his terrorism plot. That’s at least one event that’s memorable in the game.

 

[Axel_am]

What if Biowhore finally gets shut down, the Dragon Age IP gets sold to a normal studio, and they make a sequel that totally ignores everything that happened in Vilefart?

This is good. You should be a sci-fi writer in your free time. Your ideas have potential.

 

[Harthwain]

Is anybody surprised that Kotaku is melting down over this?

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I don't really see the point Kotaku is trying to make. What would this change?