Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Crooked Bee]

I hope they stick to this kind of design. Not being able to save everyone would be pretty refreshing, for a change.

 

[toro]

I hope they stick to this kind of design. Not being able to save everyone would be pretty refreshing, for a change.

Perhaps trying to save both cities will result in more casualties in both cities. Or the Rangers base becomes vulnerable. There are many other options.

This kind of binary C&C is just a non-elegant solution to the game designer needs. But what about the players?

 

[Roguey]

What's wrong with this fuckers that can't accept that your choices can cut content from your gameplay? It's a pretty cool mechanic and adds to the replayability. Maybe you would be better playing Oblivion if you want to get access to all the content that should be mutually exclusive?

I only care if I can make an informed decision with forecasted consequences. Save Random Place A or Random Place B when I have no attachment to either or have very little information about them isn't a compelling choice.

0% chance of Wasteland 2 being better than Project: Eternity or 0% chance that you will perform seppuku?
If the former then you're delusional and if the latter then how unfortunate for us all.

I'm not delusional because I'm right.

 

[Infinitron]

Play Wasteland 1.

 

[Roguey]

I killed a bunch of kids in the first one and popped a bunch of moles and Harry the Bunny Master in the other. Neither place was interesting, can I tell both towns to fuck off and go somewhere else?

By the by, looks like Fargo and Keenan were full of hot air as usual talking about how they'd get a video out first thing this week before the journalists could publish their stories.

 

[Infinitron]

By the by, looks like Fargo and Keenan were full of hot air as usual talking about how they'd get a video out first thing this week before the journalists could publish their stories.

Uh they never said that

 

[Roguey]

By the by, looks like Fargo and Keenan were full of hot air as usual talking about how they'd get a video out first thing this week before the journalists could publish their stories.

Uh they never said that

https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/370966093302476801
https://twitter.com/rangerkeenan/status/369868710791507970
https://twitter.com/rangerkeenan/status/369868912977907712

 

[Infinitron]

By the by, looks like Fargo and Keenan were full of hot air as usual talking about how they'd get a video out first thing this week before the journalists could publish their stories.

Uh they never said that

https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/370966093302476801
https://twitter.com/rangerkeenan/status/369868710791507970
https://twitter.com/rangerkeenan/status/369868912977907712

"Likely". Anyway, they're working as fast as they can. Be patient.

 

[Roguey]

"Likely". Anyway, they're working as fast as they can. Be patient.

If they were working as fast as they could, they would have already re-recorded the 30 minute video (or simply reused the one that was good enough for journalists) and added narration to it. Instead it has been two full work days of nothing.

 

[Excidium]

At least this is their second gameplay video already. Meanwhile Obsidian is going to complete an year of development and nothing solid to show

 

[Roguey]

At least this is their second gameplay video already. Meanwhile Obsidian is going to complete an year of development and nothing solid to show

Looks like Feargus cares a lot more about first impressions than Brian. I think the NeoGAF response to their concept art despite all the "these aren't final" disclaimers traumatized them.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

"Likely". Anyway, they're working as fast as they can. Be patient.

If they were working as fast as they could, they would have already re-recorded the 30 minute video (or simply reused the one that was good enough for journalists) and added narration to it. Instead it has been two full work days of nothing.

 

[I_am_Ian]

0% chance of Wasteland 2 being better than Project: Eternity or 0% chance that you will perform seppuku?
If the former then you're delusional and if the latter then how unfortunate for us all.

I'm not delusional because I'm right.

Your position is that there is a 0% chance one unreleased game will be better than another unreleased game? Surely even someone as delusional as you can see how ridiculous this is.

 

[Roguey]

Your position is that there is a 0% chance one unreleased game will be better than another unreleased game? Surely even someone as delusional as you can see how ridiculous this is.

Please refer to http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...discussion-thread.74337/page-183#post-2832538

 

[Brother None]

Sure looked a lot more tired day 3. Even my hair's collapsed in one itself. With thanks to one journalist from Japan. No idea if he liked it tho.

 

[I_am_Ian]

Your position is that there is a 0% chance one unreleased game will be better than another unreleased game? Surely even someone as delusional as you can see how ridiculous this is.

Please refer to http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...discussion-thread.74337/page-183#post-2832538

I assumed this would be the case. Your obsession with Sawyer and his game has rendered you incapable of objective reasoning. Is this how you see it?

 

[Roguey]

I assumed this would be the case. Your obsession with Sawyer and his game has rendered you incapable of objective reasoning. Is this how you see it?

Keenan is making too many concessions to quasi-simulation whereas Sawyer is going full-abstraction-ahead in the pursuit of fun so I know I'll enjoy his ideas more.

 

[I_am_Ian]

Not even a 1% chance?

 

[tuluse]

Keenan is making too many concessions to quasi-simulation whereas Sawyer is going full-abstraction-ahead in the pursuit of fun so I know I'll enjoy his ideas more.

Are you sure? Can't use sniper rifles at short range is completely abstractionist.

 

[Brother None]

We should keep track of how many pages this thread lasts each time before Roguey makes it about JE Sawyer again.

 

[Roguey]

Keenan is making too many concessions to quasi-simulation whereas Sawyer is going full-abstraction-ahead in the pursuit of fun so I know I'll enjoy his ideas more.

Are you sure? Can't use sniper rifles at short range is completely abstractionist.

Yes, but then you have things like the attribute and skill system, individual inventories with weight limits, nigh-100% chance to hit at point-blank if you have a modest investment in a weapon skill against an opponent with comparable evasion, and so on.

 

[Liston]

We should keep track of how many pages this thread lasts each time before Roguey makes it about JE Sawyer again.

To be fair it's always the other people that make it about Sawyer or PE or Obsidian every time he/she annoys them. from PE thread is so big that it is spilling all over the forum.

 

[Excidium]

Keenan is making too many concessions to quasi-simulation whereas Sawyer is going full-abstraction-ahead in the pursuit of fun so I know I'll enjoy his ideas more.

Are you sure? Can't use sniper rifles at short range is completely abstractionist.

More like completely lazy.

 

[FeelTheRads]

individual inventories with weight limits

Horrible stuff.
Which is it in PE, again? Endless inventory, get everything, carry the whole world in your pocket? WOAH SO MUCH FUN IM HAVING A BLAST ALREADY

 

[I_am_Ian]

In her defense, I was the one who brought up Sawyer. In my attempts to comprehend the insanity that is Roguey.