Decline Thiaf Pre-Release Thread

[Rahdulan]

I love how that one guard in the store doesn't even notice the display case, which he explicitly stops to look at during his patrol, is now completely empty. To add insult to injury he comments about what fine pieces of jewelry they are. Also, I already got tired of that grab animation during the course of video. Oh boy.

This is my way out, but once I drop down there's no way of coming back.

Yeah, who needs things like rope arrows.

 

[Jack]

Guards don't notice missing loot.

Did that ever make a difference in Thief 3? I never noticed the behavior of guards changing.

I also noticed that the guard relit the fire you put out at 2:20, which is nice.

In The Dark Mod it made a pretty big difference for me, guards can relight fires too and they notice if doors that should be locked are opened and such.

 

[Caim]

In The Dark Mod it made a pretty big difference for me, guards can relight fires too and they notice if doors that should be locked are opened and such.

Wow, that actually sounds like a fun and interesting mechanic! Why didn't they add this to the game?

Huh? Because it would require players to make smart descisions about how they approach situations and demands they think before they act?

Well okay then...

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Mainstream games are supposed to appeal to the lowest common denominator - that means no gameplay only aimed at smart people.

 

[adddeed]

Great, so it's not the game for all of you geniuses. Skip it. What's the problem? Maybe someday they will make Thief 4.

 

[7/10]

Yeah, they'll make it after they make Thief 2 and 3.

 

[AlexOfSpades]

Great, so it's not the game for all of you geniuses. Skip it. What's the problem? Maybe someday they will make Thief 4.

better screencap this and post on 9gag, you're Le Master Trole™ 2014

 

[Jack]

In The Dark Mod it made a pretty big difference for me, guards can relight fires too and they notice if doors that should be locked are opened and such.

Wow, that actually sounds like a fun and interesting mechanic! Why didn't they add this to the game?

Huh? Because it would require players to make smart descisions about how they approach situations and demands they think before they act?

Well okay then...

Why bother to implement features nobody is going to notice? The target audience for Dishonoured Thiaf: Absolution can't even be entrusted with a jump or lean button and will most likely take out all the guards of the level before grabbing the loot anyway.

 

[Telengard]

My choiciest choice Stealth moments of the two videos.

• He runs away in a straight line (a straight line!) breaking things and being spotted by numerous people all along the way, all while in plain view of those who are shooting at him from the side. Yet, he drops down 10 feet, and suddenly nobody knows where he is! Like a ghost! So "escaped" is he by that drop that he can just stand there in the middle of the street and ponder a map. Even with the trail of chaos he left leading right to him. -Where did he go?
  
• Instead of occasionally whistling and muttering, everyone talks to themselves in a loud voice ('cause they're all crazy, I guess), and the guard does so constantly, so you always know exactly where he is. Instead of having to sneak around and use your wits to evade everyone (in a stealth game). But they didn't even try to do something neat with the guard's talk, like have him practicing a speech or something, they just have him babble random inane single lines that have nothing to do with anything, or even each other. Like a halfwit.
  
• The fact that you can't fall renders all of that beamwork a railed path that auto-evades everything. No need for minding your noise while carefully moving at all. Just press forwards.

Stealthy!

 

[Darth Slaughter]

In The Dark Mod it made a pretty big difference for me, guards can relight fires too and they notice if doors that should be locked are opened and such.

I didn't actually see it in any video, but I have the impression Thiaf doors closes automatically after you open, don't they?

 

[Echo Mirage]

Anybody seen the New steam tags for Thiaf ?

http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Casual/
Casual
Edgy
Stealth
Reboot
Lacking good voice acting
Betrayal
Edge
First Person Stealth
Action
Theft
First-Person
Dark
Dante
White Male Protagonist
Adventure
Franchise Killer
Steampunk
anti-hero
Hardcore
"stealth"

Steam tags seem very astute.

 

[Servo]

Steam tags seem very astute.

I especially like "Lacking good voice acting" and "Franchise killer." "'Stealth'" is good too. Although I think "Edgy" should probably be "Emo" from browsing the tagged games.

 

[7/10]

Should be "cisgendered heteronormative white male protagonist".

 

[Angthoron]

"White thieves can't jump"

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Those will get deleted in a heartbeat. Can't have people hatin' on the game just before release, can they?

 

[80Maxwell08]

"Dante".

Personal favorite.

 

[J_C]

"Dante".

Personal favorite.

And this is the most apropriate one. This is just like the new Devil May Cry. It is decent game in its own mainstream way, but it has nothing to do with the classics.

 

[Jaedar]

Those will get deleted in a heartbeat. Can't have people hatin' on the game just before release, can they?

It's a real damn shame they're adding more moderation to the system. Some of the current tags are actually pretty funny.

 

[Echo Mirage]

Thiaf's first review (I think this is via some Kebab site not sure)

First Thief score is here and it looks promising. Spanish magazine PlayMania has reviewed the game and awarded it with a great 90 out of 100 score. we have translated a few details thanks to the google translate as you can see below:

The Good:
stealth,
fluid control with lots of possibilities,
esthetics design,
sound.

The Bad:

sometimes the AI seems blind,
the rhythm fall short in the last third part of the game,
load times.

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Graphic: 88
Sound: 90
Diversion: 92
Duration: 86
OVERALL: 90 out of 100

Someone is passing this around the steam page. But it also sounds as fake and as useful as tits on a radscorpion.

other notable reviews included in the magazine are as follows:

Castlevania: Lords of Shadows 2 – 95 out of 10
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII – 84 out of 10

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

Stood the shit developer upon his stage and said that the game is good... and clean. No bugs will mar thy path, no enemy will annoy thee whilst you strive to rob this store.
Let the new shit be born.
"Fuck you developer"
LET THY QTE SKILLS BE SOUND...
"Fuck you developer"
LET THY OLD SCHOOL BE VANQUISHED!
"Fuck you developer"
AND ALL THINE CASH-INS BE A PROFIT ONTO THEE!!!
"Developer, new school shitbags... please die now"

I swear to god, if they rape the lore of Karras in this game... I will kill somebody.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

Aye, I remember that... and the other characters he voiced. That guy is really apt at developing voices which sound nothing like his previous work, it's a shame that nobody is putting that guy to proper use.

 

[AlexOfSpades]

Fun fact (well known but some may be surprised): Karras was also voiced by Stephen Russell.

He's awesome. He did Karras and all of his robots, most of the guards (including the "drunk" one, which is always hilarious and the best of the guards' voices), all of the hammerites, and even XERXES from SS2. The guy is absolutely brilliant.

WHAAAT!?

Holy hell, that's amazing. I didnt know that. Unbelievable that the hired Altair's voice-actor instead... then again, you can almost expect that, looking at the gameplay videos.

 

[Morgoth]

I was just as surprised when I learned that Michael Shapiro not only voiced the G-Man of Half-Life fame, but also Barney the dork guard.

 

[Gentle Player]

This game is trying to let people think that it's much more than it really is. All these "cool" gadgets, "neat" UI elements and "smooth" cat-like animations cannot conceal a fundamentally boring and dumbed down game at it's core. Lot's of style, little substance - Montreal.

The hilarious thing is that it's neither style nor substance. Thief 1 and 2 had style, I could recognise random screencaps of out of the way buildings as belonging to either to game; this game here just looks like any other dull attempt to create a pre-18th century looking setting.

 

[skacky]

Stephen Russell also voices William Diego in SS2, and his voice there is almost the same as Garrett's. I'm pretty sure he also voices the guy that can be found in the inn in Arx Fatalis.

EDIT: after checking, he voices Goblins, the undead and Fallan Orbiplanax. I fucking love the Goblins in Arx. :D