Decline Thiaf Pre-Release Thread

[DragoFireheart]

I do think graphically Deus Ex has aged more poorly than a lot of other games from the same era. I think it looks worse than Thief as an example. The animations were also pretty bad.

Not that it matters at all for the enjoyment of the game.

This was sorta my point, but fanboys can't accept any criticism of their beloved Deus Ex.

 

[argan]

Actually, that isn't why I was banned. I was banned because people like you would report me to the mods simply because I would speak my mind and not behave like a sycophant and because of something private with Spyhopping the mod. This site, however, seems to be a bit more relaxed, so I don't think many of you will be pushing that button. But then again, I see one guy just got infracted for saying some guy had verbal diarrhea so who knows? But still, NOTHING beats getting an infraction simply because you said "crucified."

No, that was me on the Eidos forums. I said Nic Cantin had verbal diarrhea and Master Taffer gave me an infraction.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

I do think graphically Deus Ex has aged more poorly than a lot of other games from the same era. I think it looks worse than Thief as an example. The animations were also pretty bad.

Not that it matters at all for the enjoyment of the game.

This was sorta my point, but fanboys can't accept any criticism of their beloved Deus Ex.

Depends. I am into early 3D games, and they look great to me (unlike most of the modern games).

I mean, they are definitely more pleasant to the eye than this:

So good luck being a pompous faggot.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Depends. I am into early 3D games, and they look great to me (unlike most of the modern games).

I mean, they are definitely more pleasant to the eye than this:

So good luck being a pompous faggot.

What's your point in posting my favorite game, Fallout: New Vegas? Grasping for something but can't quite find it?

Gamebyro engine is shit.
Combat in that game is shit.
Yes, the textures/models look like ass.

Good games have flaws. Get over it.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Now you fail to see the point of my statement, and continue with your pompous faggotry.
The point is - you made a statement without understanding the details. If there is a tribe of people that eat food with their assholes, they will come and tell us that it's US who eat food with the assholes.

I assume that your presence here should indicate that you have the ability to read and think, but now I definitely doubt it.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Now you fail to see the point of my statement, and continue with your pompous faggotry.
The point is - you made a statement without understanding the details. If there is a tribe of people that eat food with their assholes, they will come and tell us that it's US who eat food with the assholes.

I assume that your presence here should indicate that you have the ability to read and think, but now I definitely doubt it.

Sure thing bro.

 

[Infinitron]

FYI both Deus Ex and Thief were considered to have relatively poor graphics even when they were new

 

[Darth Slaughter]

FYI both Deus Ex and Thief were considered to have relatively poor graphics even when they were new

I remember complaints about thief 2, which came in 2000, mostly because it was the same engine of the first.

 

[Servo]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

 

[Darth Roxor]

guess

 

[tuluse]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

No shadows, blue fog, action moves, experience points, you have to unlock stealth, "focus" an ability that highlights everything you'd need to see, contextual jumping, and no rope arrows.

I *think* that covers it, but there might be even more decline.

Edit: I forgot cinemagestic scripted sequences, bullet time, and potentially forced 3rd person perspective (I think they made noises about removing this, can't remember the final verdict)

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

Do it yourself, faggot.
Go play the original trilogy, then watch Thiaf's gameplay.

 

[Servo]

No shadows, blue fog, action moves, experience points, you have to unlock stealth, "focus" an ability that highlights everything you'd need to see, contextual jumping, and no rope arrows.

I *think* that covers it, but there might be even more decline.

Thanks tuluse you're a bro

Do it yourself, faggot.
Go play the original trilogy, then watch Thiaf's gameplay.

If I can't be assed to read then I definitely can't be assed to YouTube.

 

[Jick Magger]

That's not true on the Thief part. TDP's graphics were considered pretty good back in 98. TMA on the other hand was criticized for showing no major improvements over it.

Deus Ex had poor graphics since day 1 indeed, I remember the reviews mentioning it directly.

It didn't help that it came out around the same time the next generation of consoles were being released, and developers were keen to show off the shit they were capable of. Remember the first few promos for MGS2 would've been coming out around that time, and they completely blew Deus Ex out of the water in terms of graphics.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

No shadows, blue fog, action moves, experience points, you have to unlock stealth, "focus" an ability that highlights everything you'd need to see, contextual jumping, and no rope arrows.

I *think* that covers it, but there might be even more decline.

Edit: I forgot cinemagestic scripted sequences, bullet time, and potentially forced 3rd person perspective (I think they made noises about removing this, can't remember the final verdict)

Everything that was interesting and unique about the original lore and worldbuilding thrown out in favor of a generic "oppressive police state pursuing progress at expense of lower classes" premise. Aside from the premise being generic, and the game obviously copying Dishonored in various ways, the writing simply appears to be awful in general. They can't even fucking manage to maintain a consistent tone throughout their promotional materials ffs.

 

[Echo Mirage]

Also we have some sort of amnesia plot going on. Along with no Stephen Russell and magic eye super powers.

Or to cut straight to the point. Shit. Wherever their was something good there is now Shit.

 

[Servo]

What's wrong with amnesia plots?

Uh...

 

[Unkillable Cat]

They've been done to death and it takes effort to get them right.

Which means that today's developers are incapable of doing anything intersting with the trope.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

What's wrong with amnesia plots?

Nobody remembers.

 

[Echo Mirage]

What's wrong with amnesia plots?

Uh...

They have a generic selective amnesia plot going on. Not a good amnesia like planescape. But the type of selective amnesia plot that has Garrett (now in name only) being able to remember all the skills to be a master thief but absolutely nothing that would have been useful to actual plot.

Garrett is now essentially reduced to an amnesic point of view character designed to teach idiots and retards about the world and how to play the game as they go.

Also I expect an angst plot.

 

[Servo]

They've been done to death and it takes effort to get them right.

Which means that today's developers are incapable of doing anything intersting with the trope.

Sorry I meant

 

[Jack]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

Here, have a taste of a part of the decline.
http://youtu.be/wATczNszWu8?t=15m8s

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

Here, have a taste of a part of the decline.
http://youtu.be/wATczNszWu8?t=15m8s

What. The. Fuck.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

I haven't watched any of the other videos, for obvious reasons, but... WHAT THE HELL?!?

Just in that tiny part at the end that the link leads to, there's overly too much parkour, scripted events, birds coming out of NOWHERE in that tower... and I think that tower is some kind of homage or fan tribute to the original, because it looks a lot like the tower at the start of "Life of the Party" mission in Thief 2.

But I didn't see any of the charm, none of the atmosphere, it just felt grey and blurry.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Not really in the mood for reading 171.5 pages of mostly shitposts. Can anyone summarize why Thiaf is massive decline? I thought the game was out already hence the verdict but apparently it's anyone's guess at this point.

Here, have a taste of a part of the decline.
http://youtu.be/wATczNszWu8?t=15m8s

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