Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

[BruceVC]

the poison breath of a green Dragon got past a scroll of protect vs poison. And the hacks who made the game said it wasn't real poison, so they bypassed the scroll on purpose.

Yeah, I also had vicky under sleep state to some spider or BS, I guess again because it's not "real sleep".
Peak design and coding.

Similiar thing with me. I had Viconia go up against a sirine and she got charmed. So I asked why it said "magic resistance" but she still got charmed? As even if they coded in the 90% elven resistance and it got through on the 10% it still said "magic resistance" as the game tends to do when a spell fails against MR.

So they got angry and said I just didn't know how to play the game.

Viconia's MR is 50% so she is effective but can still be impacted by magic

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Potion if Mirrored Eyes works against Ace'Letec in vanilla BG It's your best bet. If I recall correctly, you're given hints about its gaze attack. It's why there are so many ghouls in the tower, btw.

In Durlag's Tower, the demon knight has several different possibilities. Fight it and your clones, fight just the death knight, and break the mirror to create a "mirror fiends" which are hostile to everyone.

 

[Chippy]

the poison breath of a green Dragon got past a scroll of protect vs poison. And the hacks who made the game said it wasn't real poison, so they bypassed the scroll on purpose.

Yeah, I also had vicky under sleep state to some spider or BS, I guess again because it's not "real sleep".
Peak design and coding.

Similiar thing with me. I had Viconia go up against a sirine and she got charmed. So I asked why it said "magic resistance" but she still got charmed? As even if they coded in the 90% elven resistance and it got through on the 10% it still said "magic resistance" as the game tends to do when a spell fails against MR.

So they got angry and said I just didn't know how to play the game.

Viconia's MR is 50% so she is effective but can still be impacted by magic

Yep, but my question to the Beamshit crew was that she was being charmed when the spell connected and it said "magic reistance." AFAIK that always signified that the spell targetted against the character with MR had been resisted by it.

So they didn't answer me on that and started baying about there being spells and other means to resist charm.

 

[BruceVC]

Im about 15 hours in BG2 EE and its going really well, firstly I have forgotten much of the main narrative which is important. I do remember Irenicus is linked to the Elven Queen and he was cast out or something similar but most of it I have forgotten

I must say he really is a diabolical and deeply dysfunctional person, when I encountered those creatures trapped in those tubes and completely insane his dark nature really became clear.

Viconia has just joined my party and so has Hexxat who had a very interesting quest for her to join me, I never thought I would allow a Vampire to join my righteous quest but she is a worthy combat addition so I will see how it goes

Im now in the city and trying to raise money to free Imoen and I want to get my magic license

I also loaded the Skie Silvershield mod and I intend to save her from the Soultaker dagger, exciting times

 

[Chippy]

Im about 15 hours in BG2 EE and its going really well, firstly I have forgotten much of the main narrative which is important. I do remember Irenicus is linked to the Elven Queen and he was cast out or something similar but most of it I have forgotten

I must say he really is a diabolical and deeply dysfunctional person, when I encountered those creatures trapped in those tubes and completely insane his dark nature really became clear.

Viconia has just joined my party and so has Hexxat who had a very interesting quest for her to join me, I never thought I would allow a Vampire to join my righteous quest but she is a worthy combat addition so I will see how it goes

Im now in the city and trying to raise money to free Imoen and I want to get my magic license

I also loaded the Skie Silvershield mod and I intend to save her from the Soultaker dagger, exciting times

If you had to start a romance with 1 out of three of those characters and deliver the line "We'll bang, ok?" which would it be?.

 

[BruceVC]

Im about 15 hours in BG2 EE and its going really well, firstly I have forgotten much of the main narrative which is important. I do remember Irenicus is linked to the Elven Queen and he was cast out or something similar but most of it I have forgotten

I must say he really is a diabolical and deeply dysfunctional person, when I encountered those creatures trapped in those tubes and completely insane his dark nature really became clear.

Viconia has just joined my party and so has Hexxat who had a very interesting quest for her to join me, I never thought I would allow a Vampire to join my righteous quest but she is a worthy combat addition so I will see how it goes

Im now in the city and trying to raise money to free Imoen and I want to get my magic license

I also loaded the Skie Silvershield mod and I intend to save her from the Soultaker dagger, exciting times

If you had to start a romance with 1 out of three of those characters and deliver the line "We'll bang, ok?" which would it be?.

Always Viconia and I also Romanced Vienxay in SoD and she is also in my BG2 party so things could get exciting

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussi...-a-elven-shadowmage-npc-for-bg-ee-sod-and-eet

 

[Chippy]

As the years went by I just made Viconia a Thief/Cleric for convenience. She was probably more powerful as a Cleric, but with all the dickery of taking Imoen out of your party every 5mins it just wasn't worth the hassle.

 

[perfectslumbers]

Finished Siege of Dragonspear, it was alright, similar quality to Throne of Bhaal but more polished. And it was hurt a ton by being a middle chapter while Throne of Bhaal was the ending to a series I was already hyper invested in. The annoying plot contrivances also add up a lot to really shatter your immersion. There's a point where Caelar meets you at dead mans pass and asks you to join, and you have multiple dialogue options to say "sure why not" and still can't join her! Perhaps it was an unfinished branching option.

Anyway onto BG2 now, and the hardest boss in the entire series. Choosing what companions to take to the end.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Finished Siege of Dragonspear, it was alright, similar quality to Throne of Bhaal but more polished.

In terms of the scripting, but the story is nowhere near it, and TOB wasn't even that great.

BG's strength was in its overall non-linearity in terms of sidequests. Especially BG1.

 

[Sarathiour]

scripting in SoD is also pretty bad, I have no idea of how things are supposed to work when you have to left dragonspear, rule for reinforcment seems different every time, and guard turn turn hostile at random.

Also, I finished Neera's quest before having all of her romance dialogue, so the whole ghost thing made no sense. Bravo again.

 

[perfectslumbers]

BG's strength was in its overall non-linearity in terms of sidequests. Especially BG1.

I'd agree with that, the linearity of the two large expansions puts a massive damper on them. I also really get sick of the long second half of bg2, the series is much better when you're exploring than when you're forced from linear dungeon to linear dungeon one after another.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I'd agree with that, the linearity of the two large expansions puts a massive damper on them. I also really get sick of the long second half of bg2, the series is much better when you're exploring than when you're forced from linear dungeon to linear dungeon one after another.

ToB was meant to be a capstone for the campaign, so it was forgivable. SoD was just one long railroad stuck in the middle of two non-linear games.

It's what happens when you give modders and fanfic-tier writers too much design freedom instead of analyzing why something was a success and hiring competent leads to emulate it.

 

[NecroLord]

Throne of Bhaal,while a rather linear campaign,did bring back one of my favourite villains,Sarevok Anchev. Voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson(a very prolific voice actor),fellow codexers should recognize him,as he did games like Fallout 2(the Enclave Comms Officer) and Kotor(Jolee Bindo),he returns as a recruitable NPC. Can also be redeemed,and dual classed into either Thief or Mage.
Throne of Bhaal is alright overall,but it does have some issues.

 

[Chippy]

Throne of Bhaal,while a rather linear campaign,did bring back one of my favourite villains,Sarevok Anchev. Voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson(a very prolific voice actor),fellow codexers should recognize him,as he did games like Fallout 2(the Enclave Comms Officer) and Kotor(Jolee Bindo),he returns as a recruitable NPC. Can also be redeemed,and dual classed into either Thief or Mage.
Throne of Bhaal is alright overall,but it does have some issues.

Nice post, but you know people here have been playing these games for almost 25 years right?.

 

[rojay]

Throne of Bhaal,while a rather linear campaign,did bring back one of my favourite villains,Sarevok Anchev. Voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson(a very prolific voice actor),fellow codexers should recognize him,as he did games like Fallout 2(the Enclave Comms Officer) and Kotor(Jolee Bindo),he returns as a recruitable NPC. Can also be redeemed,and dual classed into either Thief or Mage.
Throne of Bhaal is alright overall,but it does have some issues.

Nice post, but you know people here have been playing these games for almost 25 years right?.

I'm not old. I'm aged.

 

[Sarathiour]

Finally finished SoD, and I'm glad it's over. I thought I was going to be last minute trolled by final boss having immunity to anyting under +3 despite the game giving you jack shit, especially if you're a cleric. Fortunatly I recalled about having learned enchant weapon, so I could apply it trough reckless dweomer.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Sarevok

Best bro.

 

[NecroLord]

Sarevok

Best bro.

He is chaotic evil done right. There is something about his brutality and his personality which project an aura of evil power that is just awesome.

 

[Average Manatee]

Sarevok

Best bro.

He is chaotic evil done right. There is something about his brutality and his personality which project an aura of evil power that is just awesome.

Chaotic evil doesn't really fit him. He's more Neutral Evil or Lawful Evil. He's got an intricate plot to gain power based on starting a war during an iron shortage he creates along with assassinating a duke so they he himself can be elected to replace him. This all with the secondary goal of killing whatever other Bhaalspawn he can find.

 

[Sarathiour]

Sarevok is certainly not lawful, he had no qualm betraying his mentor, and killing his own men on a whim. He's a great depction of chaotic evil not being just a blind an mindless evil, but a focused force with a single goal in mind. Everything is disposable for him.

 

[NecroLord]

Sarevok

Best bro.

He is chaotic evil done right. There is something about his brutality and his personality which project an aura of evil power that is just awesome.

Chaotic evil doesn't really fit him. He's more Neutral Evil or Lawful Evil. He's got an intricate plot to gain power based on starting a war during an iron shortage he creates along with assassinating a duke so they he himself can be elected to replace him. This all with the secondary goal of killing whatever other Bhaalspawn he can find.

Being chaotic evil certainly fits his bloodthirsty nature and love for battle and slaughter. Most Bhaalspawn are evil,which is no surprise given the deity that spawned them...
Chaotic evil alignment done right can make plans and not become a lunatic murderhobo.
Finally,from his dialogue in TOB,it is heavily implied that he went to the Abyss after you killed him,which definitely fits his alignment. His shift to chaotic good(if he is redeemed) is also interesting. Is it a conscious effort on his part to break away from his evil heritage and to truly make amends and become a better man? I wish TOB would have expanded upon that.
Also "Koveras" was pretty lame...

 

[Sarathiour]

Koveras is 17 INT at work, I think we should just admit than everyone on the sword coast is retarded.

The shift is indeed interesting, Sarevok was ruthless and bloodthirsty pretty much his whole life, because he knew from the beginning that he was the son of the murder god, and that he was destined to greatness. He only get to reflect on his action after his failure and death, and obviously show interst on someone so similar to him, who yet end up walking a different path.

 

[Average Manatee]

Being chaotic evil certainly fits his bloodthirsty nature and love for battle and slaughter. Most Bhaalspawn are evil,which is no surprise given the deity that spawned them...
Chaotic evil alignment done right can make plans and not become a lunatic murderhobo.
Finally,from his dialogue in TOB,it is heavily implied that he went to the Abyss after you killed him,which definitely fits his alignment. His shift to chaotic good(if he is redeemed) is also interesting. Is it a conscious effort on his part to break away from his evil heritage and to truly make amends and become a better man? I wish TOB would have expanded upon that.
Also "Koveras" was pretty lame...

It's not really clear that he loves battle and slaughter for its own sake, just that that's what Bhaal demands and he loves pursuing power.

Sarevok is certainly not lawful, he had no qualm betraying his mentor, and killing his own men on a whim. He's a great depction of chaotic evil not being just a blind an mindless evil, but a focused force with a single goal in mind. Everything is disposable for him.

He still makes a serious effort to remain a respected part of the legitimate Baldur's Gate... aristocracy? until the end of the game when everything he's done is revealed.

 

[Storyfag]

He still makes a serious effort to remain a respected part of the legitimate Baldur's Gate... aristocracy? until the end of the game when everything he's done is revealed.

That was but another stepping stone. He needed to become Grand Duke in order to wage a bloody war against Amn.

 

[Sarathiour]

It's not really clear that he loves battle and slaughter for its own sake, just that that's what Bhaal demands

That's how he interpret Bhaal's demand, his plan was causing carnage on such on scale that he could murder his way to godhood.

Chaotic Evil does not mean that you are a complete tard, hence the subterfuge for the duke.