KickStarter System Shock 1 Remake by Nightdive Studios

[jebsmoker]

i can tell that jonathan peros, the guy who did the music and sfx for the remake, tried really hard to emulate eric brosius' style. the music in the remake isn't bad but they should have just gotten eric to do the music

 

[SharkClub]

The mechanics and visuals are better than SS1, the problem is that they keep locking you in large arenas and forcing combat, where the original game didn't. I can't understand the motivation behind this - as with some other decisions they made in the remake, it serves only to artificially gives you less freedom, and drags some cyberspace sections out in ways that are annoying. It's especially a problem because, while better than SS1, the mechanics still aren't very good and wear out their welcome pretty fast.

At worst I would say the fact that Nightdive want you to participate in the cyberspace combat instead of just letting you speed past it makes the mode a sidegrade from the original's. I just don't trust anyone who will tell me outright that it was somehow noticeably better in the original, that is not the hill anyone who has any reasonable criticism of this game is going to want to die on. If you don't like the cyberspace combat I'm sure (though not actually, because I haven't tried) Cyber difficulty 1 would make every combat arena inside of the mode almost nonexistent. It was not uncommon for people to even recommend Cyber difficulty 0 for System Shock 1 first-timers.

Reminds me of when the leaked version of the remake's final boss fight was shown and some people were unironically saying it's worse than the original. Have any of these people who said that ever played the final boss fight in the original game? You just float around in a wireframe room spamclick shooting the digital representation of shodan with absolutely zero combat feedback or sound effects, even a highly scripted encounter based on the Japanese box art would be a more fitting final boss fight - though I haven't gotten to it in the remake yet.

 

[Lemming42]

I haven't seen anyone saying cyberspace was outright better in SS1 (though I've not kept up with the thread in its entirety). It's just a shame that it's still shit in the remake, with the added error that the devs now force you to participate in it for far longer than it's worth.

And again, I genuinely have no clue why they did this - you take quite a bit of damage on setting 2, so you'd still be experiencing a decent amount of risk if they simply let you move through the sections at your own pace while under fire, as SS1 did.

Did the remake final boss keep the scary SHODAN closeup slowly building on the screen? That's the only thing they really have to include from the original.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

Listen and weep.

i could endure only 1 minute. it sounds like the manual on "how to build a perfectly anonymous song with these 10 tricks". i thought this kind of pathetic sadness peaked with civ6 intro, i was wrong.

 

[Junmarko]

Best UI colour is Hazardous. Easiest on the eyes, transparency isn't as annoying.

 

[Star Citizen]

i can tell that jonathan peros, the guy who did the music and sfx for the remake, tried really hard to emulate eric brosius' style. the music in the remake isn't bad but they should have just gotten eric to do the music

Which is odd because this Peros' dude's remix of this was p. fucking cool.



Overall I'm happy with the remake for what it is and it's hard to believe something like it exists today blah blah but damn it needed an OST.

 

[Tweed]

"Duuuuuude what can this strange device be that I found?"

They're trying to kill me with these audio logs, aren't they?

 

[Feyd Rautha]

How do they provide keys to us kickstarter backers?

 

[SharkClub]

How do they provide keys to us kickstarter backers?

Check backerkit or whatever, you may have to jump around a few pages within as well.

 

[lightbane]

From what I read here, it seems that Kickstarter backers are invariably disgusting in mind and body. Do they have pics? If they do, chances are they are the ugliest characters of the game, that tends to happen too.

 

[Tacgnol]

How do they provide keys to us kickstarter backers?

If you've not created a backerkit account before, sign up with an account using the same email as your KS here:
https://www.backerkit.com/backer_accounts/sign_up

All the KS projects that use backerkit should get associated with your account.

If you already have a backerkit account then just login to it and it should be under the account.

 

[Infinitron]

I don't think you need to sign up to backerkit. You should have been an emailed a link to an account at some point. I have an email from April 7th, 2022: "Last call to update your order for System Shock!"

 

[KIss My Ass]

Goes in depth about how it runs on steam deck around 12:00. Probably useless to everybody here besides me but whatever.

 

[Tacgnol]

How do they provide keys to us kickstarter backers?

If you've not created a backerkit account before, sign up with an account using the same email as your KS here:
https://www.backerkit.com/backer_accounts/sign_up

All the KS projects that use backerkit should get associated with your account.

If you already have a backerkit account then just login to it and it should be under the account.

I don't think you need to sign up to backerkit. You should have been an emailed a link to an account at some point.

This is what Nightdive support told me to do when I didn't get my key.

 

[Tweed]

I guess recall doesn't actually do anything in cyberspace? Tired to use it multiple times, but nothing happens, but then I've had multiple input issues where the game doesn't quicksave, doesn't let me turn on my shields, etc etc, just more of that sleek Nightdive coding. Someone was talking about cheating for the shiteating cyberspace sections, did someone find a godmode?

 

[Trithne]

I guess recall doesn't actually do anything in cyberspace? Tired to use it multiple times, but nothing happens, but then I've had multiple input issues where the game doesn't quicksave, doesn't let me turn on my shields, etc etc, just more of that sleek Nightdive coding. Someone was talking about cheating for the shiteating cyberspace sections, did someone find a godmode?

I was checking the options and I noticed that while the UI says recall is bound to T, the keybinds say it's actually Alt. Haven't tried it yet.

This is also how I found that middle mouse lets you aim your gun better.

 

[Junmarko]

This is also how I found that middle mouse lets you aim your gun better.

What genius thought this was a good default key bind? It's not even toggled aim, so you've got to try and hold middle-click while left-clicking to fire

Derp.

 

[Trithne]

This is also how I found that middle mouse lets you aim your gun better.

What genius thought that was a good default binding? It's not even toggled aim, so you've got to try and middle click while left-clicking to fire

Derp.

Indeed. You can change it to a toggle, and presumably it's because they wanted to keep right mouse free for interact.

I'm more concerned that the UI doesn't accurately reflect the keybinds.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

The Watchmen t-shirt and the brief email to himself was all it took for SS1 to make him likeable; the finger and the undercut is all it takes for the remake to make him unbearable.

>likeable
>shits and giggles black hat hacker, that doesn't learn from his mistakes

The original was an asshole too

 

[zapotec]

hmm there is the enhanced edition at one euro, what do you suggest

 

[DJOGamer PT]

hmm there is the enhanced edition at one euro, what do you suggest

Go for it, if you're curious

Ultimately I feel like this remake is similiar to REmake 2, it doesn't replace the original because gamelay and tone are distinct, but both games are well designed and enjoyable

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

It's honestly OK, just overpriced.

I'm not surprised trash juggling and visual clarity/readability are the biggest complaints. The former should be hated by everyone by default so that it finally gets dropped from gaming and the latter can easily cause you troubles, particularly if you don't know the original and don't remember where important stuff is more or less.

Cyberspace hacking sits firmly on the "meh, but whatever" shelf.

My biggest gripe is same as with Prey - complete lack of tension/horror. The only thing that startles me sometimes are the ragdolls spazzing out. Guess I'm just too old and cold.

 

[Zlaja]

Guess I'm just too old and cold

Welcome to the Codex.

 

[MLMarkland]

Guess I'm just too old and cold.

Welcome to the party, pal

 

[cvv]

My biggest gripe is same as with Prey - complete lack of tension/horror.

At least you're not allahu akbaring the art style.

Because on the webz everyone seems to be jizzing with happiness about the bright, colourful, cartoony visual style and the funky pixelated textures of this survival horror, while simultaneously complaining it's not scary or even tense.

Fucking modern gaymers man.