Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[TripJack]

why do people assume that steam version has drm, is this actually stated anywhere?

 

[Zombra]

Yes, GoG is shit. Enjoy your patch micromanagement and patch delays. People never leran...

1. Click 'download patch'
2. Click 'install patch'

'micromanagement'

 

[tuluse]

why do people assume that steam version has drm, is this actually stated anywhere?

I don't expect it to, but you'll have to use steam to patch.

 

[J_C]

why do people assume that steam version has drm, is this actually stated anywhere?

In my book Steam itself is a DRM. Might not be always online, but you can't share your games and play them simultaniously with other people/family.

 

[ushas]

So, speaking of planning characters (Sensuki and similar), how does the cipher work mechanically?
I understand you need to do melee/ranged attacks to get focus and that these attacks do extra damage but my question is how. Is it a fixed damage increase or a scaling increase and how does it relate to grazing hits? And how does the damage done relate to focus gained(if at all)?
Should I be dual wielding daggers or swing a massive warhammer for optimal results?

Can only tell you how I think it works in BBv480 (may be subject of change in the final game):

Extra damage from class ability Soul Whip is +20% additive modifier, and it works from begining of combat till you reach max Focus. Combat log informs you when Soul Whip is activated, and also informs when it's deactivated as you reach this maximum (the number at the start of combat is half of the maximum).

There is a talent you can take on a lvl up - Biting Whip, which further adds another +20% multiplier into this mechanics...

Focus gained is related to the amount of weapon damage dealt. In the background, game gradually sums up this (after dam. multipliers and reductions are applied in the damage formula) -- and after every 4 whole points of damage it adds +1 to the Focus (so it looks like 1/4 rounded down). Logically there is no Focus gained on misses.

Now, perhaps damage multipliers (+20% or +40% here) may situationally add more to weapons with higher base damage, because how damage formula and reductions work. But it also depends on many other factors (accuracy, speed etc.). From the Focus gathering point of view, if your dual wielding daggers do the same amount of damage as massive warhammer over the same amount of time, you will gain the same amount of Focus...

Another interesting talent you may consider is Draining Whip, which adds also +2 Focus on every hit, regardless the damage. This may favour fast hitting weapons, two-weapon style or Blunderbusses...

Athelas and others are giving really good advices. However, now I fear almost everybody will play Cipher class the same way

Edit: Blunderbuss is two-handed weapon. I think, according to Sensuki's guides all ranged weapons should be two-handed?

Some related threads on Obsidian forum:
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/71274-the-cipher-the-soul-whip/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/71337-cipher-powers-need-to-be-tweaked-for-release/

 

[tuluse]

In my book Steam itself is a DRM. Might not be always online, but you can't share your games and play them simultaniously with other people/family.

There are DRM free steam games, just copy the files and send to some one.

http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

 

[ushas]

In my book Steam itself is a DRM. Might not be always online, but you can't share your games and play them simultaniously with other people/family.

There are DRM free steam games, just copy the files and send to some one.

http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

So you don't have to install any risky steam clients to download them any more?

 

[Branm]

Guessing Cipher will be a pretty crap class at launch...Kind of a shame since the idea is somewhat unique but the talk about having to give them love last minute in a day 1 patch is worrying. I guess no one decided to play with Ciphers in beta....

 

[Unbeliever]

Well, crap or not, Grieving Mother is must have for my party. Looks like scary and deadly lunatic. Perfect.

 

[Mastermind]

Well, crap or not, Grieving Mother is must have for my party.

I hate how nobody follows up on wiz8's party creation + personality combo. It would give the players characters for the storyfags and full customization for the grognards and everyone would be happy.

 

[Zed]

putting main theme on repeat all night to make it familiar by the time I pop open the game.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I'm quite happy with the fact that it unlocks at 4pm GMT on Thursday. It means I won't be tempted by that "take the day off work" faggotry.

 

[Lockkaliber]

putting main theme on repeat all night to make it familiar by the time I pop open the game.

I had to stop it playing because I was afraid I'd spoil the experience :3

 

[Diablo169]

It makes me feel quite different to the more heroic themes of the other Infinity engine games. I'm sure it will grow on me though, i tend to find game music is meaningless until you have the memories of playing the game associated with it.

 

[tuluse]

So you don't have to install any risky steam clients to download them any more?

I don't engage with people who are intentionally obtuse.

 

[Athelas]

So you don't have to install any risky steam clients to download them any more?

I don't engage with people who are intentionally obtuse.

Didn't you hear? http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gabe-is-watching-your-porn.89984/

 

[Unbeliever]

Well, crap or not, Grieving Mother is must have for my party.

I hate how nobody follows up on wiz8's party creation + personality combo. It would give the players characters for the storyfags and full customization for the grognards and everyone would be happy.

Sounds fantastic. Unfortunately, i didnt play Wizardry 8. Stupid, but when i was playing my first RPG titles, there was so many good games and I was studying and fighting for marks and... just never try.

 

[tuluse]

Didn't you hear? http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gabe-is-watching-your-porn.89984/

I don't care if someone wants to avoid steam or not, it's their prerogative, just responding to J_C about sharing games.

 

[Athelas]

I hate how nobody follows up on wiz8's party creation + personality combo. It would give the players characters for the storyfags and full customization for the grognards and everyone would be happy.

Pretty sure there'll be a day 1 mod to respec companions if you so choose.

And fan-made romanceable companions.

 

[AN4RCHID]

Also tweeted just by Obsidian:

http://media.obsidian.net/eternity/media/audio/pe-main-theme.mp3

Utterly typical fantasy score.

Spoiler

As it should be

 

[Echo Mirage]

I'm quite happy with the fact that it unlocks at 4pm GMT on Thursday. It means I won't be tempted by that "take the day off work" faggotry.

I think thats why they did it. Meanwhile I have nothing to do all day but wait for the countdown.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

I really love this main theme! It sounds consistent if it is a good world to describe a score. It's quite epic without trying hard to be epic, I appreciate that.

 

[polo]

They posted it in FB too. But nothing new, we did hear it before.

 

[Seari]

Yeah it's mediocre.

 

[Shaewaroz]

"Royal Edition" sounds pretty cool. Almost makes me feel happy that I forgot to reduce my pledge back in the day.