Inactive [LP CYOA] Overlord

[Nevill]

the same people that vote for that accuse me of not adhering to the character when something much closer to acting in line with Lord Zhang actually turns up.

If you are referring to me, it was mostly about investing in human minions, as I only used Zhang's name in jest.

I was against sending them into combat in the first place.

 

[Absinthe]

I'm voting B, but this is probably true. This act would push us firmly into vengeful, psychotic villain territory, rather than awesome badass who takes on massive challenges for the thrill of it and doesn't give a fuck. Zhang Jue, for all the hate he received from civilized society, was still more anti-hero than villain. We're going full-on villain with B. And I'm okay with that.

Hey, I'm voting A for the Zhang Manxing route.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Actually, I wanted to vote for diplomacy initially, then flopped to striking them with Gigadyne because we had the element of surprise. Then I was cool with torturing the Barzamites. I also wanted to kidnap the Prince as well. I then flopped to AAC at the end of the last vote (keep the money). I don't blame you for making mistakes here, I flop more than anybody here, I don't make up my mind firmly all of the time. But nevertheless, when it comes down to it, once the votes are locked in, I think I've been fairly consistent in going for options that lead to a darker character.

This isn't a dark character, it's a stupid one.

Besides, by "you" I was refering to "you the voters" just you alone. I'm saying that the same people who voted to be do gooders will do so again once they get this out of their system. Making it just about a stat boost and warping our character's mind a bit.

 

[Kipeci]

If you are referring to me, it was mostly about investing in human minions, as I only used Zhang's name in jest.

I was against sending them into combat in the first place.

LORD ZHANG™ is a powerful endorsement, so I borrow it here. For every + that our stats grow larger by, so does my boner! May we harvest the maximum EXP!

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

 

[treave]

Making it just about a stat boost and warping our character's mind a bit.

Ah, I mentioned it before, but that is impossible. I specifically warned against thinking this was some sort of choice that allows you to subtly continue your previous motives rather than suddenly up-ending everything on it's head and getting a new priority (level grinding) that will influence all future choices over all other considerations.

Because the chapter ends in the next update.

 

[Nevill]

LORD ZHANG™ is a powerful endorsement, so I borrow it here. For every + that our stats grow larger by, so does my boner! May we harvest the maximum EXP!

Yeah, yeah.

Never was one for forever alone solo powergaming, always preferring party-based combat instead.

Lambchop19, the pic has a woman in it. Does not fit. We'd kill her for EXP.

 

[Baltika9]

Ah, I mentioned it before, but that is impossible. I specifically warned against thinking this was some sort of choice that allows you to subtly continue your previous motives rather than suddenly up-ending everything on it's head and getting a new priority (level grinding) that will influence all future choices over all other considerations.

So, what you're saying is that B will take this from Dragon Age: Accounting to Diablo 2?
I am okay with that.

 

[treave]

Do, what you're saying is that B will take this from Dragon Age: Accounting to Diablo 2?
I am okay with that.

A Diablo 2 with no town or NPCs, yes.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Voters ITT:

 

[Kipeci]

Yeah, yeah.

Never was one for forever alone solo powergaming, always preferring party-based combat instead.

Lambchop19, the pic has a woman in it. Does not fit. We'd kill her for EXP.

In all seriousness, when B loses in the next update, we need to start integrating our forces better with outsiders. We have the universal translation skill, but humans and goblins not to mention other monsters which are apparently considered as evil or quitters will need to become a lot more friendly with each other to work effectively as cogs in the empire we will hopefully try to build. I know you still like the slacker pervert thing to the max, but could we actually work on making sure that the overlord thing will run smoothly and not just screw off to assault fuller-uddered cows if we aren't going to drown the world in blood?

 

[lightbane]

How would the "angelic pigeon mode" work narratively, by the way? Perhaps something like this, I bet:


"Day 10. Yesterday I saw a bunch of children from... I forgot the name. I killed them anyway. Felt good...
[...]
Day 124. I believe I killed everyone in the Barzham Kingdom, three more to go."

And so on. Alternatively:

"You encounter six peasants running away from you. What do you do?

A. MAIM!
B. KILL!
C. BURN!!
D. Eviscerate."

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Yeah, yeah.

Never was one for forever alone solo powergaming, always preferring party-based combat instead.

Lambchop19, the pic has a woman in it. Does not fit. We'd kill her for EXP.

She's the "buddy" we kill. Everyone is, really.

A Diablo 2 with no town or NPCs, yes.

Yeah, might as well wrap it into a bad end then.

 

[treave]

"You encounter six peasants running away from you. What do you do?

A. MAIM!
B. KILL!
C. BURN!!
D. Eviscerate.
E. GIGADYNE"

Obvious one and true choice.

 

[lightbane]

Actually the last option was a reference to Harvester, for those who know/played the game. Also, IMO I concur that the "EDGELORD THE MURDER-MASTER" route wouldn't be a proper Overlord one as well, since the thoughts of stuff like "infrastructure", "minions", "conquering" and "not killing and destroying everyone and everything we see" would be absolutely unthinkable for the character.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I know you still like the slacker pervert thing to the max, but could we actually work on making sure that the overlord thing will run smoothly and not just screw off to assault fuller-uddered cows if we aren't going to drown the world in blood?

I'm down with the evil overlord thing. I wasn't one of the ones that wanted to save the prince, I voted to pursue the woman and leave the brats to fend for themselves, and I went along with slaughtering the soldiers. But this is stupid. It's not just that it's vile, it's stupid. There's no planning that's going into it beyond "powah" and "evul". That and Rin is a funny character and I enjoy the banter she provides. She actually adds value to both our team and to the LP.

We're killing a useful ally who for no reason at all and we're tipping ourselves into insanity. It's short term bullshit thinking because everyone has do-gooder fatigue. Just instant gratification because an actual evil character that thinks and makes evil choices deliberately instead of on a whim, driven by bloodlust wasn't something the voters as a whole had the stomach to play from the beginning.

 

[Elfberserker]

I think everyone needs to take deep breath and count to ten. We don't get to anywhere with these kneejerk reactions, even if it's pretty understable.
As far as I know this evil overlord business is still somewhat unknown road to codexians even if we are savy as fuck.

Ask yourself, what kind of overlord you want to be?
Do you want to be single powerful evil creature, who guts and gets shit done alone?
Do you want to be empire builder of evil monster empire?
Or even perhaps a crimelord?

I am sure that someone can descripe each baddies archtype better, but we need somekind of overall archtype goal that we want to reach instead flip flopping over every update.
Lets see what we currently have.

* 1 or 2 extremely powerful creature boss types ( Rin and us)
* 3 three named goblin lietnants of diffrent roles.
* village of gobbos
* 2 of level 1 fighters?
....

We still have routes open for us, but we will end up running circles the way wer are doing now.
I have yet heard any single masterplan from any of you, where we are going next whatever it being murder machine, conquerer or silent power behind the throne or thrones.
That's undersdanble, I don't have single one either...Well excpect Kipeci, so far he has more far reaching vision than simply doing evil stuff.

I am thinking about taking this guy with conquerer emporor route or perhaps some sort of secret illumanite route that control the world behind doors silently.
What are your plans fellow codexian!?

 

[Nevill]

I know you still like the slacker pervert thing to the max, but could we actually work on making sure that the overlord thing will run smoothly and not just screw off to assault fuller-uddered cows if we aren't going to drown the world in blood?

I am actually one of those who advocates hard work. We nearly missed this whole Erise scenario by sitting on our butts, and I am not a big fan of that. I prefer lazily defeating enemies, lazily acquiring new blood, and lazily reaping our rewards instead of just goofing around.

As an aside, I also think the cow might be a polymorphed human, considering its strange intelligence and behavioral patterns (it also seemed to understand our speech and attracted our attention to Rin when we asked about her), but I am not sure whether there is indeed something here or if it is a joke on treave's part. You may get your accounting dog cow yet.

Building and running a sort-of Empire in the background as we spend our time adventuring is one of my goals as well. Of course, I would still prefer to go about in a slacker-perverted way.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I am actually one of those who advocates hard work. We nearly missed this whole Erise scenario by sitting on our butts

So? I ould have been fine with missing this had I known it would result it us white knighting for a prince and the murdering Rin for fun.

 

[Nevill]

So? I ould have been fine with missing this had I known it would result it us white knighting for a prince and the murdering Rin for fun.

Patience, young padavan. Let the votes fall where they may. There may be less people advocating for the GRLLLBRLLL way than it seems.

Also, I am not particularly concerned with white-knighting, seeing how we didn't lose anything important yet, got some intel on Barzam, and got ourselves a favor of our choice from the ruling house of Methuss. This might come in handy for a variety of purposes.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Oh, and for the record, you bros don't understand the "lazy" scholar at all:

DDC? The Slacker Pervert: You like women, you like money, you like success, but more than anything else, you like to expend effort thinking up ways to get all the lovely things you like without effort. They call you the most hardworking lazy scholar in the academy, but you prefer to think of it as minimizing effort in the long term.

It's about being efficient. It doesn't mean we literally do nothing. It means we work hard in the most efficient way possible for the goal of one day being able to chill in our palace with our harem.

 

[Nevill]

Ask yourself, what kind of overlord you want to be?
Do you want to be single powerful evil creature, who guts and gets shit done alone?
Do you want to be empire builder of evil monster empire?
Or even perhaps a crimelord?

I think this is one of the more useful posts in this thread. At least it allows us to share our plans and visions with each others instead of pointing fingers.

I am still gunning for the mastermind character, a power behind the powers. I thought about bringing Farland to the throne and getting our own piece of land to build a proper base of operations on. I don't know nearly enough about the local powers to make plans for them yet, but I do think to consolidate the humans and non-humans of the different nations and seek a way to declare war on the Seven Kingdoms, which is probably ruled by Kyle now.

It still doesn't mean we have to neglect power, as there will be people gunning for us, but I'd like to be less noticeable if possible.

 

[Rex Feral]

Hey I'm all for seeking worthy foes but not here for fuck's sake.

Firstly it's Rin so I subscribe to the idea of shooting ourselves in the foot if we even harm her, let alone kill her.

Then it's stupid as fuck to betray the world for her and then kill her for the lulz. Reminds me of GTA 3 actually.

I'm all for going bananas, but on our foes, not our friends.

 

[Nevill]

It's about being efficient.

And I think that's how I want to keep it.

Whatever gets the job done, without making work into a habit.

The truth of the matter is that good deeds are not inherently more or less effective as evil ones. They are suited for different purposes, and if you can use both to their utmost potential - well, then you've got what it takes to be a successful ruler - or overlord, or whatever title suits your fancy. It is never just sticks or carrots, but always both.

That is why I am ambivalent about torture or white-knighting for a white-knight. There are some preferences as to how I do things, but they are based mostly on the driving motivations that we've picked in the very first update.

 

[Kipeci]

To answer Elfberserker I am as I said fine with either option winning. It's been made obvious that the change of paths goes way beyond a cosmetic one, so I have different plans in place depending on which one wins out. (But I'm calling it for A because I don't think the Codex has enough to really commit to B. We'll be too concerned with missing out on the possibility of maybe brushing a hand against some demon titties fifty updates from now to actually forfeit that entirely.)

My sort of vision provided that A wins is that essentially we live up to the legacy of the one that the goblins think we are. We take the goblins and other despised monster of this world as well as the humans and weld the peoples into a mighty state with us as the head, they are united forever in friendship etc. etc. Being the head of a kinda sorta benevelent-ish dictatorship of diverse peoples we can justify our desire to be an authoritarian overlord with the Codex' urge to be the good sort of bad person and select for our harem the most attractive of the diverse cattle of many regions. I hope to accomplish this by having Erdrick establish that yes, he is a tremendously powerful badass and furthermore has the capacity to back that up by regularly putting his skills to use. Sufficient displays of power will attract followers, and with followers we can act on a bit of a grander scale than one goblin village. I am fine with being friendly and diplomatic to those who do not stand in our way, especially when they have something to offer us, but those who threaten us and our followers should be eliminated with extreme prejudice.

If B were to win I would go for the sort of intense self-improvement regiment of facing down the biggest challenge we can manage and working our way up from there, throwing Erdrick into dangerous situations to see his full potential bloom. When there is no summit left to climb, nothing else to conquer, just Gigadyne the world and get rid of the grave it's become as well as our self. The brightest candle burns the shortest, and all that.