Inactive [LP CYOA] Overlord

[treave]

So basically we become a mindless monster?

Nope. You're not mindless, you are just beyond petty concerns.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Nope. You're not mindless, you are just beyond petty concerns.

Such as?

 

[Esquilax]

Such as?

I suppose "petty concerns" would entail "anything that doesn't make us stronger". I'd imagine that B would give us a moment of enlightenment that would lead us towards a Nietzschean Ubermensch type character/philosophy.

 

[profreshinal]

Don't diss the cow! Who else is going to carry all the crap fat loot from the battle? Erdrick? A pack animal is just what was required.

dunno A I guess

 

[Nevill]

Such as?

Women, money, and talking to the juicy bags of EXP.

Basically all the things that made the character for me.

 

[Smashing Axe]

A - its freaking Rin. No way we are sacrificing her on the alter of "powah".

I'll remind you all that power levels in these LPs usually can be increased any number of ways.

I think you're failing to fully grasp the implications of choosing A. Historically, we have often died to Theseuses due to our acts of magnanimity and friendship. Yet they killed us regardless. Rin is a bloody minded demon who has just attacked us for no reason. Her eyes are glowing with evil hatred.

She's Theseus bro. Don't fall for her "But I'm mind controlled!" act. Take action.

 

[Esquilax]

She's Theseus bro. Don't fall for her "But I'm mind controlled!" act. Take action.

A noble attempt, my brother in evil, but I'm afraid that Shetheus has Lambchop and the rest of the voting bloc all cuntstruck. We're doomed!

 

[Smashing Axe]

We'd also be immune to any Theseuses who might arise in future, due to a zero friendship carnage pidgeon policy.

 

[Esquilax]

We'd also be immune to any Theseuses who might arise in future, due to a zero friendship carnage pidgeon policy.

I employ a no-friendship policy in my personal life, and I assure you, at no point have I ever been either stabbed in the throat in a labyrinth or shot in the eye. It's a sound policy.

 

[Azira]

Yeah, screw this. Rin is gunning for us. She's not entirely in control of her own actions (to say the least), but she's gunning for us. That won't do.
Since this is the last update for this chapter, I guess we'll either be spending time in recuperation after being beat bloody by Rin, or she'll the one on the stretcher.
We are supposed to be at least CN in this LP, correct? Then enough of the pussy-footing. B

 

[Baltika9]

I'm high on meds right now, but here are my two cents on this awesome conversation, I feel we've built up some minor resentment towards one another since the four years we've played LPs together, which is natural.
Here's the way I see it: the whole principle of multiplayer CYOA is that these are collaborative characters, so we kind of have to deal with one another and show each other respect in the terms of, 'hey, it's your opinion and I respect it even if I agree/disagree with it.' Of course there's going to be a lot of playful ribbing and calling one another names and getting pissed at the other dudes when their proposed plans fail (example: Esquilax's rage was totally justified after Ean tripped the Rift, because we dun fucked up), but we're men, that's what we do. And I don't mean that in a macho 'hue hue MEN!' way, it's just that it's natural when men gather and start collaborating on something.

What ruins this dynamic is when we lose the respect for the community atmosphere (by taking it personally, playing dirty or just ignoring opposing opinions and imposing your vision above anything else), because then you get division in the ranks and hostility among the group (I apologize for the military terminology, but that's the best I can do in my current state), which in turn leads to schismatic decisions, if that makes any sense.

What I personally have a problem with is not the fact that the other side disagrees with me, but the 'me me me' mentality. ScubaV made a spot-on comment:

Ironically, the most butthurt from this update is from the do-gooders over the slim possibility that Erdrick goes grimdark.

Something comes along that goes the opposite of your opinion of the character, the automatic reaction is "PURGE IT WITH FIRE LET NOTHING REMAIN." That might lead the people who are going for it to think, 'well fuck you too.' Personally, I've been through enough interpersonal bullshit with people that I know to see past the moment and realize that this is a game being played by nerds on an internet forum for nerds, but the feeling of resentment can still be there, because it's cool when everything goes your way, but mine doesn't even get the decency of respectful consideration.

I have consistently wanted to take the character in a darker direction. But hey, when I do something you don't like, it's flip-flopping and inconsistency. When you change your mind, it's the smart choice. Quit being an asshole. I'm going with B, I'm sticking with it for now, and I want a different sort of experience. I'm not sorry if A wins, but I don't see why this inconsistency is a bad thing.

Granted, B is not a great choice for a lot of reasons, but A doesn't appeal to everyone else either and I am okay with that, there's plenty of other directions to take this character in.
It's just that the general sentiment against doing 'reprehensible things' because 'she's our waifu!,' 'they're our gobbos!,' 'that's our loli!' suggests that it won't be happening. Not just later, but never, and it kinda pains me that those character development options aren't being given due consideration because a subset of voters are dead-set against it because it doesn't fit into their vision of the character and are lobbying hardcore and using mental gymnastics to get votes to go their way.

To be honest, I think that Smashing Axe is the only person around here who has any right to call anyone a cunt and bash the votes, he's been waiting to play a decent villain since EPIC and not once has he uttered a thing in complaint. That's some commendable patience.

 

[Azira]

... getting pissed at the other dudes when their proposed plans fail ...

Yuhe Finger... Goat Doctor...

 

[treave]

I was rather surprised that the option to kidnap the prince and/or his adjutant didn't win at the time. Probably the least messy way of ending the chapter, should have also appealed to both do-gooders and evulz-choosers as a way to 'save' the prince while not sticking your nose too deeply into things.

Also, was going through Epic for villainous stuff and came across this lovely quote by one of you guys:

Fuck Dio, he sucks and is a complete douchebag, but he's the character we're playing as, so I'm staying true to it. Playing a villain was sorta more fun in my head than in reality

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Gosh, I wonder who could have said that?

Fuck Dio, he sucks and is a complete douchebag, but he's the character we're playing as, so I'm staying true to it. Playing a villain was sorta more fun in my head than in reality

 

[Elfberserker]

Well, here is the tally...Might flop to B to give it a fighting chance.
Maybe there will come something surprisingly funny and unexpected help like the cow.

Nevill A
Greyviper A
Tome A
wjw A

kz3r0 A
Rex Feral A
Lambchop19 A
Lightbane A
Cassidy A 10
Storyfaq A
asxetos A
Absinthe A 13
Grimgravy A
Quetzacoatl A
FrankHamilton A
profreshinal A 16


Kipeci B
Smashing Axe B
Archaen B
ScubaV B
Jester B 5
Esquilax B
Gobblecock B 7
Azira B
Elfberserker B


Total votes:
A option: 16

B option: 9

Edit: added missing Azira vote

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

You missed Azira's B vote.

edit: The cow's farmer is a potential Theseus/Shulgi btw. There is clearly love there and he left so there is the potential for him to be a nebulous threat...
...watching...waiting...plotting...

 

[Nevill]

Hmmm... does Lucy have potential as a combat mount?

What? A charge of goblin riders on bulls can be terrifying!

It's just that the general sentiment against doing 'reprehensible things' because 'she's our waifu!,' 'they're our gobbos!,' 'that's our loli!' suggests that it won't be happening.

But she's our waifu, they're our gobbos, and that's our loli!

Why do we want to do reprehensible things to our allies instead of enemies? Is the alternative not reprehensible enough? Do we need that extra edge of twisting a knife in our own back?

 

[Baltika9]

But she's our waifu, they're are gobbos, and that's our loli!

Why do we want to do reprehensible things to our allies instead of enemies? Is the alternative not reprehensible enough? Do we need that extra edge of twisting a knife in our own back?

But the prince is our ally, the kingdoms are our assets and the Prophet-Princess of Bazram is our potential waifu? Why do we want to do reprehensible things to our allies instead of enemies? Is the alternative not reprehensible enough?
Do you see where I'm going with this? You can reframe almost any choice that way and it can be absolutely true. This is literally about choosing the flavor of ice cream you want, you can go the route of making everyone an ally/asset and then you can't do reprehensible things to anything because you would be harming yourself, or you can go the other way and actually get to do reprehensible things. All I'm saying is that, judging by the DISCUSS, we're leaning towards the former. Again.

 

[lightbane]

Personally, I haven't read/participated into any of these CYOAs everyone likes so much to mention, I started fresh here after the titled caught my attention. I understand that for some people B will have appeal since it ensures our future actions will be villainous, absolutely evil and hyper-desctructive (both for us and everyone else). Besides, it may be a rather refreshing experience to play straight as a truly Chaotic Evil character. However, in my opinion not only it eventually would become stale, but it also would seriously limit our choices by virtue of being a bloodthirsty monster with no redeeming traits.

Meanwhile, in A, Erd will not fully give in to CHAOS his Angelic instincts for now, but that doesn't meant they will stay silent just like that. I'm sure that in the future the voices in his head will continue to press him to engage into mindless carnage and sodomy. Said instincts will get stronger if we keep taking the choices that lead towards fighting and bloodshed, so in the end we could end up becoming a murder-monster anyway if we're not careful.

In fact, now that I think about it, I believe it could be possible to do both courses of actions. That is, treave occasionally could do an odd update in which Erd has a nightmare where he has to survive against a bunch of murderous animatronics he's forced to behave as if the Angelic side took over, giving us a taste of what being an Angel would be. That could be explained as the angelic side attempting to convince him to partake into more buttsex violence and stuff like that, in exchange of the promise of power. Of course, whether we follow these suggestions or not would be entirely up to us. That would be a win-win situation for everyone in my opinion.

 

[Kz3r0]

Why do we want to do reprehensible things to our allies instead of enemies?

Because even Gengis Khan didn't, we are more badass than that slit-eyed pussy.

 

[Nevill]

But the prince is our ally, the kingdoms are our assets and the Prophet-Princess of Bazram is our potential waifu? Why do we want to do reprehensible things to our allies instead of enemies?

The moment they become our allies and rally in our support, yes. I am totally fine with not extracting their spinal fluids with a spoon. After all, the unified Empire made of four human realms and a few monster tribes is my goal. Four Kingdoms is less than Seven, but it's a start.

But I don't think everyone is going to bow before us and accept us as their ruler just like that. So I can foresee plenty of violence and intrigue in our immediate future.

Prophet-Princess of Bazram is our potential waifu, but her vassals aren't, as we have shown in the past week. Unless they are women, of course - then we might just spare them.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Of course. You are going for an exaggeration.

Not everyone is our friend, and I suggest directing our hostilities there until they are either eradicated or become one.

Frienship always wins in the end.

Spoiler

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Why do we want to do reprehensible things to our allies instead of enemies? Is the alternative not reprehensible enough? Do we need that extra edge of twisting a knife in our own back?

The codex has always been self-hating and suicidal. It's no wonder that these self-destructive tendencies would manifest in a LP.

This is literally about choosing the flavor of ice cream you want, you can go the route of making everyone an ally/asset and then you can't do reprehensible things to anything because you would be harming yourself, or you can go the other way and actually get to do reprehensible things. All I'm saying is that, judging by the DISCUSS, we're leaning towards the former. Again.

Dude, no one is against doing reprehensible things. We've already let Rin torture people to death. It's doing reprehensible things to our allies that's stupid - to people that have actually fought on our side.

Honestly, reading your posts, I picture your ideal character as a friendless, foverever-alone Donald Trump in power armor. He asks no questions. He takes no names. He only spills blood. And you know what, that would be pretty bad ass if it were a film or a comic book instead of a LP, but I don't want to sit here and wade through your lame vision of the perfect Warhammer fanific. I want to play a game with interesting characters - allies and enemies, instead of just enemies and the occasional transient meatsack stupid enough to think they could ally with us without inevitably and unnecessarily being betrayed once the mood strikes us.

 

[Baltika9]

Honestly, reading your posts, I picture your ideal character as a friendless, foverever-alone Donald Trump in power armor.

How didn't I think of that? That's better than anything Games Workshop can come up with.
Seriously, though, I saw an interesting option (for me)and voted for it. I absolutely understand why it's not popular, being a total about-face of everything Erd (or any other character archetype, for that matter) was designed for. But the Diablo mindset is a curious thing to explore and I already see treave poking fun at many ARPG cliches and mainstays, so I'm curious what he'll be doing with a hack'n'slash LP. Besides, he expressed total disinterest in writing anything related to 40k a while ago, so I wouldn't dream of forcing it on him.

 

[treave]

I already see treave poking fun at many ARPG cliches and mainstays, so I'm curious what he'll be doing with a hack'n'slash LP.

You unlock the angelic power to see numbers pop up above EXP sandbags when you punch them in the face, and also become able to estimate how many more things you have to punch to get to the next level.

 

[Baltika9]

You unlock the angelic power to see numbers pop up above EXP sandbags when you punch them in the face, and also become able to estimate how many more things you have to punch to get to the next level.

So, kinda like this: