KickStarter Geneforge 1 - Mutagen - remake from Spiderweb Software

[Viata]

Protagonist got smaller so his creations looks bigger.

 

[Cosmo]

Forget the piss filter, Vogel definitely prefers the tone of sickly diarrhea...

 

[Abu Antar]

I'm currently playing Geneforge on Steam, and it looks better than this.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

I wouldn't mind a remake, particularly the older Geneforges look like barf. I liked the Avernum remakes well enough. If he dumbs down the game too much I'll rather play the original, tho. We'll see.

 

[Darth Canoli]

I'm currently playing Geneforge on Steam, and it looks better than this.

Looks the same to me.
Another useless cash-grab remake, this guy knows how to milk his consumer base retards.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I'm currently playing Geneforge on Steam, and it looks better than this.

I think using a checkerboard and this

will look better and run better.

 

[Terra]

As expected, the art is moving in the soulless direction of Avadon. Say what you will about the early Geneforges, but at least the scrappy art had more charm than what I'm seeing here. Too clean, too obviously rendered out from a 3D package. The graphics enhancement mod for G1/2 does a better job of retaining the original style and improving upon it.

 

[Haba]

Anyone who still gives Vogel money deserves a special tag.

 

[passerby]

Probably old news.

Yes, I can definitely see the improvement

Yep, Geneforge is his best looking game and has a consistent visual style with tilesets designed by one artist specifically for this game, but of course he can't recognise it.

I also don't like this reskin mod, which uses graphics from the later games, the UI skin is nice I guess, but I didn't mind the green goo either.

Only proper gameplay improvements, like real AoE spells for example, could convince me, but It'll be just a port to Geneforge 5 engine most likely.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geneforge1/geneforge-1-mutagen

 

[V_K]

That's one shitload of quick item slots.

 

[JarlFrank]

Jeff just doesn't understand aesthetics at all does he?

Even a blind man could design better visuals than that old man.

 

[Terra]

It's fucking sad is what it is. Here's the chance to actually do a decent remake and have the game look great, instead I'm seeing cacti and ground tiles from Avadon being used to promote an upcoming kickstarter. Take that screenshot above; it shows a "remastered" area vs how the original looked (the area looks like the docks - starting area or close by). An area that for some reason is now using said Avadon desert tileset & cacti sprites, when originally it was grass and trees. Does the pre-KS budget not stretch to creating some new graphics that actually look like a remade version of the original?

I'd bemoan the re-use of the original Geneforge 1 title screen pictured above, but that's

compared to everything else I'm seeing.

There's a hentai rpg kickstarter somewhere on the codex that's established a better aesthetic in a few weeks than what Jeff's managed in the space of years, and likely on a tighter budget.

 

[Viata]

Given how the docks(wish I believe it is) looks like, I have no doubt he is going to destroy every other location.

 

[JarlFrank]

There's a hentai rpg kickstarter somewhere on the codex that's established a better aesthetic in a few weeks than what Jeff's managed in the space of years, and likely on a tighter budget.

BUT GOOD ART IS EXPEEEEEEEEENSIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE

t. Jeff "I like the color of vomit" Vogel

 

[Viata]

Honestly, the one thing keeping me away from game development, is the fact I can't do art worth shit.

That is a really bad excuse, tbh. Old Vogel's game had shit art even for indie standards, yet you'll have a hard time to find better games.

 

[Siveon]

Honestly, the one thing keeping me away from game development, is the fact I can't do art worth shit.

That is a really bad excuse, tbh. Old Vogel's game had shit art even for indie standards, yet you'll have a hard time to find better games.

Never judge the power of stock art assets used correctly, for one. Or two, a mix of stock art assets and some reasonable money paid to commission artists for work. It doesn't have to be full-time just piecemeal. Character designs, some important models, whatever.

It's also been shown that programmer art that had effort put into it works just well. Look at Terraria, for instance.

 

[luj1]

If you're into eye candy, you're in the wrong forum thread. Oozing graphics were never important in a true RPG.

 

[Lady_Error]

I liked the Arcanum remakes well enough.

What kind of remakes were those? Better graphics?

 

[Nim]

instead I'm seeing cacti and ground tiles from Avadon being used to promote an upcoming kickstarter. Take that screenshot above; it shows a "remastered" area vs how the original looked (the area looks like the docks - starting area or close by).

It is the second area, where you encounter the first fyora, didn't even recognize it until I saw the minimap.

 

[passerby]

If you're into eye candy, you're in the wrong forum thread. Oozing graphics were never important in a true RPG.

No one is complaining about lack of oozing graphics, but about destroying whatever atmosphere the original game had with some sterille shit.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Stealth in Genefore 1 seemed to mostly be a quirk of the engine. Enemies only noticed you within a certain number of squares and many had set patrols, so you could cheese that. By Geneforge 5, however, it was built into the mechanics of the game. There were stealth items that would decrease the distance at which monsters noticed you.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

If you're into eye candy, you're in the wrong forum thread. Oozing graphics were never important in a true RPG.

Something can be basic/simple, or even plain and still aesthetically pleasing. The new look is just not very good

 

[Humanity has risen!]

0 need for any Geneforge to be remade, it's just pointless.

 

[BLOBERT]

Geneforge is one of the best rpg series ever, if not the outright best.

BRO IS FUCKING SERIOUS AS SHIT

GENEFORGE KEPT A RELATIVELY COHERENT PLOT AND RELATIVELY GOOD QUALITY THROUGH FIVE FUCKING GAMES AND THE WHOLE THING KEPT A CONSISTENT STORY

MOST GAMES BARELY MANAGE A FUCKING SEQUEL WITHOUT FUCKING SHIT ALL UP