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Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

What modes should we play?


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kingcomrade

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GYROCOPTERRRRRRRRR!!!
CHAOS KNIGHTTTTTTTT!!!
another limp dick agi carry

gyro and chaos, holy shit i love these heroes.

as for tournament, the 3rd mtw game was great
 

kingcomrade

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Yeah Tobi is a bit of a derptard. The best thing about his stream is when he has the captains of good teams and old veterans on, Synderen and Puppey and Wagamama and Slesh.
There'll be a lot of other different casters. It won't be only Tobi - joindota is doing the adminy/organizational stuffies, but any caster will be able to stream for the same reason you have already mentioned. I kinda hope ayesee and draskyl (?) will cast those games. I really enjoy the deep amerikwan voice of ayesee (or was it draskyl?).
I've heard a lot of good things about ayesee, he seems to be universally liked
 

Castanova

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I really got into this game for 150 hours or so but I took a break and now I can't see myself starting again. The 45+ minute average match length is just too much time to be locked into a multiplayer game that you can't quit at will (unless you're willing to be a massive asshole).
 

Wulfstand

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I really got into this game for 150 hours or so but I took a break and now I can't see myself starting again. The 45+ minute average match length is just too much time to be locked into a multiplayer game that you can't quit at will (unless you're willing to be a massive asshole).

Quite true, I guess these 'MOBA' games really require you to take a few hours of your time, if you really want to get into them. I can see them becoming largely popular with teenagers, but other than that, I find it a nightmare to play unless you're playing with friends using skype/whathaveyou.
Three new heroes is more like it, finally we get Aurel Vlaicu, fuckyear!
 

kingcomrade

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Yeah exactly, Dota is what me and my friends play when everyone's home from work. I very rarely play by myself.

Did anyone watch the Mouz vs Virtus game 2? Holy crap
 

meh

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Yeah exactly, Dota is what me and my friends play when everyone's home from work. I very rarely play by myself.

Did anyone watch the Mouz vs Virtus game 2? Holy crap
Yeah, although it's 1:23AM and I have to get early for work, still watching. I hope VP takes it.
 

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http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/uow5c/anyone_could_send_logan_cunningham_a_message_to/c4xoxap
Anyone could send Logan Cunningham a message to make an announcer in Dota 2? said:
Hey guys, we hear you.
A couple of us at Supergiant are huge fans of Dota 2 (I myself have spent 289 hours in the beta so far according to Steam). So, this has crossed our minds, all the more knowing there's some interest out there. I'm the writer on Bastion so I can tell you we're total sticklers for how we use the character... we were careful to not relegate him to play-by-play commentary in our own game. That being said, we have some thoughts about how we could do this in a way that's appropriate. I can't promise anything, I just wanted to acknowledge this if only as an excuse to say Bastion and Dota 2 in the same sentence.
 

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The thing I want added most right now is the taunt feature HoN had. The whole point of playing pub games in dota is to feel :smug: when you kill someone.
 

Malakal

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A single well placed "lol" can be way more effective. I know what Im talking about, I used to specialize in shittalking players to leave. From both teams.
 

Pope Amole II

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Did anyone watch the Mouz vs Virtus game 2? Holy crap

Watched it live, found it to be pretty meh - like, yeah, it was long and epic and stuff, but that wasn't because both teams were equally good, it was because both teams were equally horrible. It was all about mouz taking a weird, weird pick - no real carry, dark seer, but few ways to abuse him (like, no enigma or earthshaker supercombos), and rarely seen storm spirit. I guess, the idea was to gank VP early and use resulting advantage for the win, but mouz's skill was not high enough to gain enough of advantage and so the game dragged into late stage and guess what - a team with hard carry wins over a team without one. And those horrible, horrible ults from SF...

And g3 was even more moronic - I mean, that Roshan fight, that fucking stupid roshan fight... Sure, you have no - armor and no physical damage and they have ES & dark seer, sure, go on, try to get that aegis...
 

kingcomrade

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I am a master trader, I just traded a worthless omni hat for a furion staff I wanted. (it's actually the cheap .75 one in the store, but it's the one I wanted. I bought the glowy staff (and the set its in) for one of my friends, so i wanted a different one).

I know we try to be all edgy and stuff here, but calling either team horrible is pretty silly.
 

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Obviously we're just bads. Mr. Pope just goes Bane and denies every death on his team ever like any decent player would.
 

Wulfstand

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I seriously need to fucking stop playing dota during midnight-early morning, it's as if I barely goddamn think during those hours due to fatigue, and it exhausts me like a sonofabitch.
 

Pope Amole II

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but calling either team horrible is pretty silly.

No, it's not. In western world of professional dota (if you may call it so), there's only 1 decent team and, I hope, we all know its name - rest is tier-2 or worse. Sure, that's better than random amateurs (I would've said "like me", but I don't even play dota - I just watch the replays of pros, follow it as a cybersport) but their level of skill, their professionalism, training, talent and dedication are not enough to make their games enjoyably watchable - I mean, what's the point of watching a sport where matches are won not by brilliant play but by exploiting stupid screwups? Sure, I may be overstating this thing a bit as exploitation of mistakes is present in any kind of sport or gambling, it's one of the main strategies there, I would dare to say, but at least in truly professional areas mistakes are stupid but not that stupid and repetitive.

And, by the way, you can hardly call Virtus Pro a team - they don't have a stable captain and both dread & NS are horrible pickers, they half-ignore training (I mean, I read the rules of their team - their obligatory practice per week is 3 days, 4 hour a day which is utterly pathetic for pros), they allowed their carry player, kky, to screw around for two weeks before the most important competition in their current history, once again, not training with the team, finally, they couldn't even shell out a stable roster, playing with two stand-ins. I mean, two stand-ins at TI qualifiers - what kind of mockery is that? And while it's actually understandable with Azen, - the scuttlebutt is that he got in a car crash, thus being too injured to play atm, - what the hell is wrong with dread? The stand-ins played better than the main crew members, though, so I must admit that it wasn't a bad change after all, yet it ridicules them as a team even further.

As for the mouz, it's even easier - they're european and europeans just can't be real pros ATM. Why? Because, if you live in Russia/Ukraine or China, your professional dota player's salary (which is quite low, they say) can sustain you - like, you definitely won't be rich (unless you win 1kk dollars at TI, obv), but you probably won't need another source of income. Same is not true for europeans - with the high standards of living in their countries, they have to work somewhere and that means that they just can't stay sharp enough to beat truly dedicated teams. And if they can't, they won't achieve much.
 

meh

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Let's team up for some games tonight? Lets say... in 8-10 hours from this post's time. Yesterday, we were 4, but only played one game.
 

Harpsichord

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I filled out a survey about a month ago, still haven't received an invite. Sucks watching all of you fuckers log in and play when I can't.
 

Harpsichord

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40 dollars? Jesus titty fucking christ. I'm tempted to pay that much for the sake of instant gratification, but that feels like you're getting extra ripped to pay 40 dollars just for early access to a free to play game.
 

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40 dollars? Jesus titty fucking christ. I'm tempted to pay that much for the sake of instant gratification, but that feels like you're getting extra ripped to pay 40 dollars just for early access to a free to play game.
And items you could trade ;)
 

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I got to play a few games with the guy whose stream I watch most often. I are famous on teh internetz now.
 

kingcomrade

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Who did you play with, blitz? I've played with him 4 times and fed every single time. then again every time I volunteer to play with him i've usually had a few
 

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Barney. I think I linked his stream here before but this is the vod if anyone gives a fuck: http://www.twitch.tv/barnyyy/b/320949586

I join in on the 3rd game and don't get in on the voice chat until about a third of the way into the last one though.

I didn't really realize it until watching it again from his perspective but I did fuck all with dazzle when I played him. I mean, I was still helpful because I played the ideal ward bitch, but I may as well have put all my points into stats for all the difference it would have made. I never used my ult and grave never saved anyone. I think poison might have helped a couple times.
 

kingcomrade

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yeah Dazzle can be frustrating to play, like I normally max grave first because its honestly the skill that makes him worth picking, but its relatively rare that it matters. like, in teamfights if your carry is about to die, ideally you grave and he fights for another 6 seconds and hopefully wins. in reality, the guy shits his pants and tries to run, then dies
 

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Part of the problem was that the guy I wanted to grave had a bkb, and by the time it wore off I was already dead. Which obviously means I should have held back more or graved myself, but I was used to hon where it has a shitty range and slow projectile speed.
 

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