Average Manatee
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Healing pad? Did you actually heal teammates in this game by putting a tampon up their ass?
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Concord Cancelled
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Healing pad? Did you actually heal teammates in this game by putting a tampon up their ass?
Cael
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abija
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It was one of the first since the coat clearly doesn't fit it (can't close the zipper).
ropetight
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Concord Tax(tm) is just continuation of Sony Tax(tm).
Now fanboy retards will start complaining about being profiled and exploited same way as bitches are complaining about prices of pink colored razor blades.
ProbablyMonsters made bank, they'll get promotions if anything.
Firewalk Studios will get merged into Bungie, de facto. Probably de jure in a bit, when things quiet down. Effectively a promotion.
The Sony suits can say yeeeah the game failed, but we bought all these experienced developers, who will work on our other game now that they are free.
If anyone is getting fired, it will be some finances guy in Sony, but finances people notoriously don't get fired (they chose who gets fired).
scytheavatar
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Apparently someone of 4chan said 8 people were fired over the game flopping, you can find out who they are by the job position posting after the game's release. Most of grunts but one notable exception is the lead map designer for some reason. But we also know that the director has stepped down from his role although he hasn't been fired.
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These are good news.
We wouldn't want Sony to fix their shit.
Some of the lead employees of Firewalk Studios were former Bungie employees. Why would they go back hat-in-hand? As for the rest, why would it be a promotion? They have absolutely no leverage, and will very likely make less money there. Also, Sony laid off a number of employees from their more established studios earlier this year, how hard could it be to find danger-hair artists?
Elttharion
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Kind of a bizarre take. Less than two months ago Sony fired 220 people from Bungie, moved 150 out of the studio to work with other Sony devs and used around 40 people to create a new internal studio at SIE. Thats 400+ people that they kicked out of the studio. They had already fired more than 100 people last year. Since Sony bought Bungie they have almost cut the studio in half, from 1300+ devs to around 800.
Sony itself had already fired more than 900 devs just this year.
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With any luck; none.
The firing coincided with the general industry wide trimming of the fat in human resources, stuff like diversity hiring, cultural coaches and w/e.
Probably most weren't devs.
MadMaxHellfire
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sometimes, all it takes is common sense.
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His leg day commitment is questionable
Then again, the concord one skipped every day.
ropetight
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Common sense missing for measly hundred thousands or two is not uncommon or unsensible.
karoliner
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damager
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4chan is full of paid glow niggas posing as edgy gen z trans kids and animal fuckers. It’s an attempt to shift internet culturesome retards on /v/ started making fan art of some concord characters, mainly the bootleg ramona flowers alien-cat thing (because of furries, obviously... 4chan boards are full of furfags and xeno/monster-fuckers now)
kinda funny a game having a resurgence of fan art only because it died
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Dragon Age veteran crunches the numbers on Concord's reported $400 million cost: "A project that is in trouble can get really big in an effort to get it over the finish line"
"Did it cost 400 million dollars? I'm not sure, I think we can make it plausible that it did"
[Emphasis added]
BioWare veteran Mark Darrah has crunched the numbers on whether Concord's reported $400 million development costs are accurate, essentially concluding that it's entirely possible and plausible that it did.
In a new episode of his 'Mark Darrah on Games' podcast, the former Dragon Age executive producer precedes his analysis by reminding folks that he isn't an employee of Sony and thus can't base anything off of inside information. That said, he looks at publicly available data including Concord's development start date in 2018, as well as its 15 months in alpha, to form a rough estimate.
Darrah also estimates the "fully loaded staff month", that is how much it cost Sony to keep every member of Concord's development team on staff, to be $15,000 a month. That doesn't mean developers were making that much every month, but Darrah is estimating that each employee cost Sony that much in wages, supplies, hardware, office space, and also indirect costs including HR. He's also using that number in an effort to see whether Concord's reported $400 million development cost is even plausible, and according to his estimations, it is.
"A project that is in trouble can get really big in an effort to get it over the finish line," Darrah said. "So with those two numbers. 212 people on average, up until alpha, and 900 from alpha until launch, we get a grand total cost of about 402 million dollars. So, it's possible, if we do it purely through staffing with just a fairly simple ramp."
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"Did it cost 400 million dollars? I'm not sure, I think we can make it plausible that it did. Certainly for a game with as relatively small scope, it's hard to see where all of that money went. It would've had to have been lost in iteration. It would have had to have been lost in inefficiencies due to team structure or massive team sizes. Like we just went through I think you can make the math work, and it might represent reality. It's also possible that the sources that are providing this number are exaggerating, or misinformed, or are getting their math wrong in some other way."
Darrah announced his retirement from BioWare back in December 2020 after 23 years with the company, so although he presumably has zero insight into Sony's finances beyond what's available publicly, he does know a thing or two about game development costs. Still, the exact dollar amount of Sony's financial loss from Concord, which was in development for around eight years, is yet unknown.
"Did it cost 400 million dollars? I'm not sure, I think we can make it plausible that it did"
[Emphasis added]
BioWare veteran Mark Darrah has crunched the numbers on whether Concord's reported $400 million development costs are accurate, essentially concluding that it's entirely possible and plausible that it did.
In a new episode of his 'Mark Darrah on Games' podcast, the former Dragon Age executive producer precedes his analysis by reminding folks that he isn't an employee of Sony and thus can't base anything off of inside information. That said, he looks at publicly available data including Concord's development start date in 2018, as well as its 15 months in alpha, to form a rough estimate.
Darrah also estimates the "fully loaded staff month", that is how much it cost Sony to keep every member of Concord's development team on staff, to be $15,000 a month. That doesn't mean developers were making that much every month, but Darrah is estimating that each employee cost Sony that much in wages, supplies, hardware, office space, and also indirect costs including HR. He's also using that number in an effort to see whether Concord's reported $400 million development cost is even plausible, and according to his estimations, it is.
"A project that is in trouble can get really big in an effort to get it over the finish line," Darrah said. "So with those two numbers. 212 people on average, up until alpha, and 900 from alpha until launch, we get a grand total cost of about 402 million dollars. So, it's possible, if we do it purely through staffing with just a fairly simple ramp."
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"Did it cost 400 million dollars? I'm not sure, I think we can make it plausible that it did. Certainly for a game with as relatively small scope, it's hard to see where all of that money went. It would've had to have been lost in iteration. It would have had to have been lost in inefficiencies due to team structure or massive team sizes. Like we just went through I think you can make the math work, and it might represent reality. It's also possible that the sources that are providing this number are exaggerating, or misinformed, or are getting their math wrong in some other way."
Darrah announced his retirement from BioWare back in December 2020 after 23 years with the company, so although he presumably has zero insight into Sony's finances beyond what's available publicly, he does know a thing or two about game development costs. Still, the exact dollar amount of Sony's financial loss from Concord, which was in development for around eight years, is yet unknown.
Sunk Cost/Concord Fallacy at work.
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