Warframe

[Turjan]

Alright, just leave them for now and do everything else until I get to fly, got it.

It's Warframe, so it isn't that simple. The Archwing quest comes early as one of the Star Chart requirements, and that lets you fly in space. In order to fly in open worlds, you need an Archwing Launcher. In order to build an Archwing Launcher, you need an Archwing Launcher Segment in your Orbiter. For the blueprint of that Archwing Launcher Segment, you need to be in a clan and get it from the Tenno Lab. In order to build the blueprint, you need some minerals from the Plains of Eidolon. And lots of Oxium from Jupiter, if I remember correctly. Eh, that's about it.

Speaking of, does scanning enemies actually do something other than unlock their entries in the database alongside a list of their potential drops?

Scanning "the normal way" with the Codex Scanner you can buy in the Market can be mostly ignored with the exception of the quest that lets you get Titania, for which you need to scan a few different plants during Earth missions at different times of day (doesn't work on the Plains of Eidolon, and the Plains day/night cycle is different from the general Earth day/night cycle, or it would just be too easy). The bulk of the scanning will be done via the Helios sentinel (blueprint in the clan dojo).

The scans for Cephalon Simaris are separate and will get you standing with him and access to a few mods, and later to the simulacrum where you can test weapon and warframe builds. Those scans also count for the codex entries, but not the other way round. Get the augment (or what it's called) that gives you unlimited scans first.

 

[Caim]

It's Warframe, so it isn't that simple. The Archwing quest comes early as one of the Star Chart requirements, and that lets you fly in space. In order to fly in open worlds, you need an Archwing Launcher. In order to build an Archwing Launcher, you need an Archwing Launcher Segment in your Orbiter. For the blueprint of that Archwing Launcher Segment, you need to be in a clan and get it from the Tenno Lab. In order to build the blueprint, you need some minerals from the Plains of Eidolon. And lots of Oxium from Jupiter, if I remember correctly. Eh, that's about it.

Yeah, I saw a blueprint for the Archwing in my Foundry and figured I'd need it later to get or upgrade the Archwing. So just keep playing and I'll unlock access eventually.

Scanning "the normal way" with the Codex Scanner you can buy in the Market can be mostly ignored with the exception of the quest that lets you get Titania, for which you need to scan a few different plants during Earth missions at different times of day (doesn't work on the Plains of Eidolon, and the Plains day/night cycle is different from the general Earth day/night cycle, or it would just be too easy). The bulk of the scanning will be done via the Helios sentinel (blueprint in the clan dojo).

The scans for Cephalon Simaris are separate and will get you standing with him and access to a few mods, and later to the simulacrum where you can test weapon and warframe builds. Those scans also count for the codex entries, but not the other way round. Get the augment (or what it's called) that gives you unlimited scans first.

So quit the regular scans until I get free unlimited scans, got it.

 

[Turjan]

The last update was that exciting that nobody has mentioned it so far.

New frame is allegedly good. Couldn't be arsed so far to farm it. It's a defense mission where you collect strings of gems, like in old platformers. For hours...

Meh. Maybe, one day.

 

[GreyViper]

Caim I recall getting one of the needed items from the Fortuna Bounties Archwing Launcher.
Few tips I can give, if your in a clan get everything. Don't sell any frames until you met Audry from Little pet shop of Horror and feed him. For weapons try to get Amprex and Ignis Flamethrower.
Also glad you joined the wonderful world of Warframe it has so much content to explore and discover.

 

[Turjan]

The Amprex didn't quite keep up with current times, but the Ignis Wraith is still a good weapon to pick up from the dojo (lost its exclusivity not long ago).

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

amprex used to clear entire rooms with a click, now it's just for show. from bad to worse, and the damage rebalance is never going to happen.

 

[GreyViper]

Ha true, times have changed. Small correction after your are done mastering Amprex its time to get the true monster that is Bubicon or old faithful as I like to call it, though Shedu gets some love from time to time.

 

[Sykar]

amprex used to clear entire rooms with a click, now it's just for show. from bad to worse, and the damage rebalance is never going to happen.

It can still clear rooms with a "click" depending on how long the click lasts.

 

[Lhynn]

Seriously guys, Deep Rock Galactic.

Yesterday I joined a hazard 5 mission, it was a pub game, so just randoms. It was an elimination, we had to hunt 3 dreadnoughts.

So the ship lands and as soon as the gate is open I see a large motherfucking spitter right in front of us. I quickly shot it with my GK2, all shots straight in the weakpoint, it dies fast, as this happens I realize im about to get surrounded by a bunch of bugs, I zip outta there and toss a freeze grenade at the group. This was the first 15 seconds of what seemed like an extremely hard and long mission.

Suddenly help came, two other dwarves landed, experienced players. We were low on ammo through all the mission, but we managed to get everything done plus events, it felt like everyone brought their A game.

You do not get shit like that in warframe.

 

[Caim]

The last update was that exciting that nobody has mentioned it so far.

New frame is allegedly good. Couldn't be arsed so far to farm it. It's a defense mission where you collect strings of gems, like in old platformers. For hours...

Meh. Maybe, one day.

I know what she's supposed to look like but I still cannot unsee her having three vaginas on the front of her body. I'll leave it to a brave man to fuck the Citrussy though, those rocks can be sharp.

 

[Caim]

Made it to Deimos.

Well, the place is looking properly vored by the Infested. The pretty Orokin towers overtaken and the moon itself taken apart by the bootleg Flood. My weapons are starting to shape up nicely, and I've got access to several elemental mods to be effective against whatever's thrown at me. My bow still serves me nicely, and I've tried a few guns but I hate the reloading so I go back to my trusty Paris. I've looted a few new weapons and parts here and there, and I'm starting to feel that the endgame of Warframe is completion: build all the weapons, collect all the Warframes and kit them out to the max.

While my weapons are shaping up nicely and I love my little drone with its ice beam/targeting laser, I feel that the mods for my Warframe itself are woefully lagging behind. I've got good shields and regeneration on them, I can run pretty fast now and I've upgraded my item radar, but the rest of the mods are a grabbag of whatever junk I've gotten across. I got three mods that improve my abilities and one that detects enemies, but they're all flawed so I don't upgrade them.

And what's the deal with those Orokin statues? I've found three so far and slotting in those smaller gems or whatever they are greatly increases their value. Can you do more with them than selling them for a lot of Endo?

 

[Pika-Cthulhu]

And what's the deal with those Orokin statues? I've found three so far and slotting in those smaller gems or whatever they are greatly increases their value. Can you do more with them than selling them for a lot of Endo?

You can decorate your ship with them

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

Paris

worst bow ever. if you want a true bow, get a rakta cernos, or i wish i could give you one of my dreads, i got hundreds (i could build an army of oberons equipped with dreads and hates, and conquer the solar system with them). if you want to breeze through any content, get a lenz, bramma or proboscis cernos.

i hope your sentinel is a helios. their damage is always going to be pitiful, but helios is going to take hours, days, months of work off your shoulders.

 

[Turjan]

Made it to Deimos.

Deimos certainly looks great. I still couldn't be arsed to do the bounties there, so I still don't have access to the Helminth system. Yeah, I know it's kind of pathetic, but I don't really care too much about being efficient. I'm mostly playing other stuff at the moment, anyway, because I needed a bit of a break.

I got three mods that improve my abilities and one that detects enemies, but they're all flawed so I don't upgrade them.

I thought the same in the beginning, and some of the veterans give this as advice. However, I noticed that at least some of the flawed mods give you more bang for the buck (endo) in the beginning. Yes, you won't get to as high numbers as with the others, but initial upgrades are dirt cheap. It took me ages until Streamline dropped for me, and I made do with a flawed version for a while. It may not be worth it for stuff like Flawed Pessure Point, as you get the normal versions all the time, but some of the energy mods are relatively rare.

Always keep in mind that playing with not upgraded mods is kind of a waste. Even one upgrade most of the time doubles the effect, and if you already have Ayatan Treasures, an investment of 10 or 30 endo means nothing to you. Regarding credits, keep in mind that the first mission of the day pays out double. I usually did some of the Dark Sector stuff as first mission in my starting days.

And what's the deal with those Orokin statues? I've found three so far and slotting in those smaller gems or whatever they are greatly increases their value. Can you do more with them than selling them for a lot of Endo?

They are the best source of endo at the beginning of the game. I only kept the one from Nightwave for decoration, as it's kind of rare/"unique". Then again, I don't care too much about cosmetic stuff.

 

[Turjan]

if you want a true bow, get a rakta cernos, or i wish i could give you one of my dreads

A Dread should be much easier. The Rakta Cernos needs 125.000 Red Veil standing points at rank 5, and that means having handed in stuff like Forma, an Orokin Catalyst or a fully built Harrow Prime Systems part just for the privilege of being able to buy the weapon.

i hope your sentinel is a helios.

The description sounded like a Taxon with an Artax. Which should put the Paris in perspective.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

A Dread should be much easier. The Rakta Cernos needs 125.000 Red Veil standing points at rank 5, and that means having handed in stuff like Forma, an Orokin Catalyst or a fully built Harrow Prime Systems part just for the privilege of being able to buy the weapon.

i sold them, 50p, no idea how much they go for now, give me a minute.
WOAH! 15p, it's not even worth the grind.

 

[Turjan]

i sold them, 50p, no idea how much they go for now, give me a minute.
WOAH! 15p, it's not even worth the grind.

Yeah, the weapons you mentioned or Oberon certainly sounded like some glimpses of a different era.
I heard that Duviri may try to make weapons like Dread (but also the Paris) relevant again via the Incarnon system, plus a set bonus for Dread, Despair and Hate, for example. I didn't even bother and try to get Oberon Prime during the Prime Resurgence he was offered.

 

[Caim]

i hope your sentinel is a helios.

The description sounded like a Taxon with an Artax. Which should put the Paris in perspective.

Yeah, that's the one. And I'm still using a Paris because like I said I've just gotten to Deimos. So the only planets I've done so far are Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, so I'm not very far in yet and most of the bows are out of my reach as of now.

But to hit max rank in one of those factions you need to hand in entire Warframe parts? That's going to take a bit of work.

 

[Turjan]

The Taxon isn't bad on those early planets, as it can stun those very low level enemies, which helps. Sentinels become mostly worthless in later stages, with a few special cases, like the Helios for scanning (as long as you still have anything to scan).

But to hit max rank in one of those factions you need to hand in entire Warframe parts? That's going to take a bit of work.

Don't worry about it, just pledge allegiance to one of the factions as soon as you can, so you don't miss out on passively accumulating the standing points. You can't do all six syndicates at once, so just pick whatever (one active, the allied syndicate will be leveled passively). Syndicate weapons are at best so-so and are not a good use of your standing for selling them, which means it doesn't really matter that much what you pick. More important are the warframe augment mods on high rank, and only some of those are actually useful.

Early on, weapons like the Vaykor Hek (Steel Meridian) or the Rakta Cernos (Red Veil; and both those syndicates are allied) would be great upgrades, but this would mean a very streamlined game that looks a bit like work to me. Chances are that you have at least equally good or better other weapons if you play normally and get to the point where you can buy those. I personally can buy both of these weapons from their respective syndicates at the moment, but haven't done this so far (need more weapon slots). I had already gone the Cernos -> Mutalist Cernos -> Proboscis Cernos route before I was able to buy the Rakta Cernos. And I pretty much never use(d) any of those.

 

[Sykar]

Iirc there is a way to get standing with 5 or all 6 but it was extremely slow and you had to be very careful. I myself got 4 up which is enough.

 

[Caim]

The Taxon isn't bad on those early planets, as it can stun those very low level enemies, which helps. Sentinels become mostly worthless in later stages, with a few special cases, like the Helios for scanning (as long as you still have anything to scan).

But to hit max rank in one of those factions you need to hand in entire Warframe parts? That's going to take a bit of work.

Don't worry about it, just pledge allegiance to one of the factions as soon as you can, so you don't miss out on passively accumulating the standing points. You can't do all six syndicates at once, so just pick whatever (one active, the allied syndicate will be leveled passively). Syndicate weapons are at best so-so and are not a good use of your standing for selling them, which means it doesn't really matter that much what you pick. More important are the warframe augment mods on high rank, and only some of those are actually useful.

Early on, weapons like the Vaykor Hek (Steel Meridian) or the Rakta Cernos (Red Veil; and both those syndicates are allied) would be great upgrades, but this would mean a very streamlined game that looks a bit like work to me. Chances are that you have at least equally good or better other weapons if you play normally and get to the point where you can buy those. I personally can buy both of these weapons from their respective syndicates at the moment, but haven't done this so far (need more weapon slots). I had already gone the Cernos -> Mutalist Cernos -> Proboscis Cernos route before I was able to buy the Rakta Cernos. And I pretty much never use(d) any of those.

Yeah, I'm making decent progress with both the Steel Meredian and the Red Veil. I've read that the Vaykor Hek is a pretty good weapon, and I haven't given shotguns a try so far.

How big of a consideration is the type of phsyical damage you deal? Puncture, Impact and Slash all have their own effectiveness, and with bows you have access to all three types. Is this especially important in the late game, or something you should start to consider earlier on?

 

[Turjan]

Iirc there is a way to get standing with 5 or all 6 but it was extremely slow and you had to be very careful. I myself got 4 up which is enough.

Yeah, but more than 4 gets really complicated. I'm technically doing 4 at the moment, but I think it's still only borderline worth it at the stage I am at.

 

[Turjan]

Even the basic Hek is a big upgrade to the starter weapons early on. It shoots low level stuff dead even without mods.

How big of a consideration is the type of phsyical damage you deal? Puncture, Impact and Slash all have their own effectiveness, and with bows you have access to all three types. Is this especially important in the late game, or something you should start to consider earlier on?

At the start of the game, you will try to just use direct damage to kill stuff in one or two hits, and in that case, physical damage type doesn't matter too much. Higher level enemies get ridiculous amounts of protection (different kinds of armor mostly), and then pysical damage type becomes important. Later in the game, only Slash matters (with very few special case exceptions) because you want to apply the Bleeding status, but I wouldn't worry too much about it at your stage. You can test it, and I think it was already somewhat noticeable with the tonfas I tested on mid Star Chart enemies, but it's not such a big deal until the late planets. You probably know already about elemental damage (using the right element on the specific enemies), which matters more at low levels.

As you just arrived at Deimos, you may have noticed that the infested there behave slightly different to what you are used to. While "normal" infested are usually no issue and are especially vulnerable to gas, Deimos has some Infested that need corrosive to get through to them.

 

[Caim]

Yeah, I'm balancing around my damage mods and I've got something for most occasions on my primary and secondary, and on my melee only the acid one is still a flawed variant. So I'm mostly swapping those around to increase my damage output based on whatever it is I'm fighting.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

How big of a consideration is the type of phsyical damage you deal?

early, don't give a damn, just pump damage.
mid, don't give a damn, you're going to do tons of damage.
end, but the very very very end, like level 200 mobs and on, it's all slash status, so don't give a damn anyway.