Warframe

[Kjaska]

The change that lets me skip the password input screen on Steam alone has me hyped. It sounds trivial, but over time it's like that torture method where you have a drop of water hit your forehead.

 

[ADL]

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i thought 1999 was an entirely new game :V so what is it, another island with a hundred new currencies no one is going to care for in a couple months? or some other mandatory unskippable 20 hours slog through irritating set pieces no one is going to care for in a couple months?

 

[Tweed]

i thought 1999 was an entirely new game :V so what is it, another island with a hundred new currencies no one is going to care for in a couple months? or some other mandatory unskippable 20 hours slog through irritating set pieces no one is going to care for in a couple months?

And romances!

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

holy shit, for a while this has been one of my favourite games ever, i have almost 3 goddamn thousand hours on it. what did they do to you?

 

[gurugeorge]

holy shit, for a while this has been one of my favourite games ever, i have almost 3 goddamn thousand hours on it. what did they do to you?

Ditto, for a while it was maybe my second favourite multiplayer type of game ever (my eternal flame back in the day being City of Heroes). I had sooo much fun PUG-ing with randos in the Void for a year and a half or so.

Now it makes me feel slightly ill contemplating the jumbled mess it's become.

 

[Gerrard]

holy shit, for a while this has been one of my favourite games ever, i have almost 3 goddamn thousand hours on it. what did they do to you?

The same thing they've been doing for years.

 

[Necrensha]

Warframe has always been aimless.

 

[Zariusz]

The main positive of this update is that now you can normally get bootleg Ak47 for your magical space zombie metal meat puppet.

Honestly that Protoframe stuff feels like a weird roundabout way to fix turning the warframes from sci fi power armor into metal mutants possessed by autistic kids with magical powers.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

because in my fantasy of metal melting laser cannons and spaceship destroying biologic bazookas i totally needed a real weapon. totally.

 

[Revencort]

Warframe is still a great game, excels way above the likes of Destiny could ever as a looter shooter or as a game really, DE culture of handling business is also great, the game is free to play and sure you can pay for platinum and get stuff in a faster fashion but you can also just trade the stuff you get in game for such platinum to do the same thing, and also constant free updates and expansions, even if not all of them were the best.

It is a shame however that since its original art director, Mynki, has left the project and later on unfortunately passed out in 2024, the game has lost much of its soul. It used to be all about dark mysterious sci-fi and now it.. honestly, it doesn't know what to be, even though some of its original aspects remain since it has a very strong foundation going back a decade of success.

I personally don't like much of the changes after the Second Dream up to the New War but they are still great stuff nonetheless, not on par with ancient Warframe but still great, now New War and almost everything after it is pretty iffy. Cool from the outside but barely Warframe.

You have years of lore being summed up to a single guy creating everything and the downfall of the universe being over this guy's romance with his male assistant, impressive.

Added to that is Rebecca Ford becoming Creative Director which while she is a great voice actor for Lotus, I don't know if she has the best direction for the game.

 

[Gerrard]

Rebecca is a degenerate coomer who added a whole bunch of disgusting fetish shit into the game.
And Warframe hasn't been a "great game" in 5+ years.

 

[Ryzer]

Rebecca is a degenerate coomer who added a whole bunch of disgusting fetish shit into the game.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

years of lore

this is the main issue with warframe. it was perfectly awesome when it was "space ninja pirate kills everything". every single attempt at lore has been a chain of disasters each one worse than the previous one.
i can pinpoint the moment it went full decline: when the (now) parkour chamber theme stopped being in used the login screen.

 

[Revencort]

Thinking back now, it’s probably nostalgia speaking, plus the fact that some of that soul still remains in the game in old tile sets or by replaying old content really. It is still somewhat enjoyable, since you can just engage in the gameplay more or less.

Old Warframe lore worked because it relied mostly on its cryptic worldbuilding, things were uncanny, weird and scary. At best you had your unreliable unknown narrator TM giving you orders to slay everyone around you or hateful genetic abominations shouting at you as you rushed through the dark hulls of their dreadnoughts, or the mystifying codex entries.

Everyone and everything was hostile to you. You are awaken as a biomechanical being by an unknown figure in the ruins of a long lost civilization and are met with a weird caste of would be humans with corrupted flesh trying to harness you who otherwise are alone in an unknown decrepit solar system that seem so strange and in a state of eternal war.

All the planets we know turned into nightmarish versions of themselves and any semblance of humanity is mutated and unrecognisable.

This used to be cool, even if without much substance. On top of that that we had mythological aesthetics, mostly Oriental but also Nordic, Celtic, Roman, represented in the score, design, weapons, Tenno culture and martial arts etc. All of that was lost or largely diluted into the whole lost traumatised space kids without identity.

But don’t get me wrong, I am not so much a purist, even after the Second Dream they consistently pumped good stuff aesthetics wise and while it wasn’t the ideal path in my opinion the game still had potential. Stuff like Cetus could be less of a slop but things such as the Orokin sentient tower made of flesh worshipped by forsaken central Asian remnants of mankind is a cool concept, though executed poorly, as an example.

But nowadays I don’t know what to make out of it, the multiverse trope is as generic as one can get and screams lack of creative direction.

TL;DR: Would prefer the game remained cryptic, badass and thematic, it didn't; But not all was lost, for a while, now it seems to be in a grim state.

 

[Revencort]

https://youtu.be/mNoedF8lRZY?si=vmZlVlLMy7TTbX10

This and parkour room's theme represent peak.

 

[Matador]

This is the problem with games as service that are never finished.

I´m currently playing Ninja Gaiden Black. Nobody can change that masterpiece with updates and "improvements". It´s there forever to enjoy as it was designed.

We cannot play original Warframe. It´s a frankenstein of versions between years that would have been more coherent as several different games.

 

[Damned Registrations]

This is the problem with games as service that are never finished.

I´m currently playing Ninja Gaiden Black. Nobody can change that masterpiece with updates and "improvements". It´s there forever to enjoy as it was designed.

We cannot play original Warframe. It´s a frankenstein of versions between years that would have been more coherent as several different games.

True, but without that model we'd have never had decent warframe to begin with. It wasn't nearly big enough on launch to warrant a sequel, especially since people balk at sequels that reuse assets for some retarded reason. We'd have original warframe with like 12 frames or whatever it had on launch, shit melee and parkour, etc. Then a sequel with better mechanics but fewer frames, levels, enemies and weapons that would flop hard. I can still load Warframe up and take my dude to the original missions and ignore all the new crap if I want, aside from some shitty changes to the ship and title screen or whatever you spend no time in anyways. And not all the new stuff is crap, so I can pick and choose what I want to take from it. Even if only a fifth of the new weapons, frames, enemies, levels and so on are any good, that's still a ton of cool new shit to mess with.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

It wasn't nearly big enough on launch to warrant a sequel

Or to stay alive even, DE had a founder program giving exclusive rewards to get money. (and to this day people cry about Excalibur Prime being one of those rewards even though everyone gets one for a quest except it's called Excalibur Umbra)

I often (basically every discussion not solely about mechanics) hear the same thing about Destiny and how the first game had a more immersive atmosphere because you don't get a clear answer to anything so your imagination fills the blanks. There's no way around it for an online game because those have long storylines and you can only keep up the mystery overload for so long before the enchantment loses its effect and it gets annoying if you don't actually get any answers.

The writing is nice at least, even if you know the purpose is to sell warframes. Only the Jade Shadows quest had me questioning why the Corpus would stop shooting just because there's a

Spoiler

baby

with me, since it's not like they ever cared about war crimes.

 

[Reever]

(and to this day people cry about Excalibur Prime being one of those rewards even though everyone gets one for a quest except it's called Excalibur Umbra)

Umbra looks better too. But people like to throw tantrums about things they cannot have.

The writing is nice at least, even if you know the purpose is to sell warframes. Only the Jade Shadows quest had me questioning why the Corpus would stop shooting just because there's a

Spoiler

baby

with me, since it's not like they ever cared about war crimes

Pretty much. Didn't even mind the kind of weird plot of warframes being able to have babies but that last part was so out of place and hammy.

 

[Zariusz]

(and to this day people cry about Excalibur Prime being one of those rewards even though everyone gets one for a quest except it's called Excalibur Umbra)

Umbra looks better too. But people like to throw tantrums about things they cannot have.

The writing is nice at least, even if you know the purpose is to sell warframes. Only the Jade Shadows quest had me questioning why the Corpus would stop shooting just because there's a

Spoiler

baby

with me, since it's not like they ever cared about war crimes

Pretty much. Didn't even mind the kind of weird plot of warframes being able to have babies but that last part was so out of place and hammy.

Didnt that happened because

Spoiler

pregnancy happened before being turned into a warframe?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Yes. Ballas thought it would be funny to make someone in that state to go through the warframification process and see what happens, which is in character for him. The weird part is the corpus standing down. I realize it's a reference to the scene in Children of Men where the two sides stop shooting to let the family pass, but it made me think of how Nef Anyo has not one, but two quests where he gambles with kids lives and thinks it's hilarious. Then again the Sisters of Parvos only exist because he's a weirdo about family so maybe the commander didn't even get punished for it.