KickStarter Vampire Syndicate: Gangs of MoonFall

[Tyranicon]

Less dakka is fine, but give more choppa.

Melee weapons and ranged will be 50/50, but take different upgrade paths. Since melee exists in lore reasons due to some magic Dune-esque fuckery, they will be more enchantment inclined than guns, which are more tech-based.

So there will be cyber swords, but most of the higher end stuff is just a really good piece of blessed/cursed metal. Also I hate the fantasy aesthetic for weapons that plague most games, so mine will be more in line with historical swords. There will be axes, daggers and polearms too. Maybe other categories, we'll have to see.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Less dakka is fine, but give more choppa.

Melee weapons and ranged will be 50/50, but take different upgrade paths. Since melee exists in lore reasons due to some magic Dune-esque fuckery, they will be more enchantment inclined than guns, which are more tech-based.

So there will be cyber swords, but most of the higher end stuff is just a really good piece of blessed/cursed metal. Also I hate the fantasy aesthetic for weapons that plague most games, so mine will be more in line with historical swords. There will be axes, daggers and polearms too. Maybe other categories, we'll have to see.



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Hammers, dude

 

[Harthwain]

Hammers, dude

That's not choppa.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Hammers, dude

That's not choppa.

If you can use the flat side of a choppa to hammer things, then hammers are choppa too.

 

[Zombra]

Four distinct melee types and maybe four distinct gun types sounds like plenty to choose from. I'm not here to play Borderlands 4.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I'm not here to skip Borderlands 4.

Fix

 

[Dadd]

Also I hate the fantasy aesthetic for weapons that plague most games, so mine will be more in line with historical swords.

Good. I'd also like for them to be proportionate to character size.

 

[lightbane]

What about a blessed sword with a force field to empower the blade's cutting power for extra power gaming?

 

[Peachcurl]

What about a blessed sword with a force field to empower the blade's cutting power for extra power gaming?

Or vibro-blades?

How bout chainswords et al.? :excited:

 

[Tyranicon]

What about a blessed sword with a force field to empower the blade's cutting power for extra power gaming?

What about a blessed sword with a force field to empower the blade's cutting power for extra power gaming?

Or vibro-blades?

How bout chainswords et al.? :excited:

Extra stuff will probably depend on budget and time. I would like to have more options, but this isn't a loot-focused game. Although it's one of the areas I would want to expand the most.

 

[Zombra]

Speaking for myself, I'm more of a build character stats and skill trees kind of player than a compare numbers on 10 different swords kind of player.

In other words, it's not the size of your weapon but what maneuvers you know.

 

[Norfleet]

2. They would be too OP unrestricted, setting-wise. Vampires are already immortal, have powerful regenerative abilities, superstrength and the best power of all: money.

Money isn't really much of a power in a vidya game. We all know that money is always just one round of murderhoboing away. Plus I can't imagine being a super-cyborg was cheap to begin with.

If they could start to improve on their bodies, they would definitely remove all their flaws, such as weakness to sunlight.

As usual, Islam has all the answers: Build Back Burqa.

A cyber-arm here or there is fine (but just barely).

I would argue that rather than making it some kind of weird arbitrary rule, you simply make them fundamentally incompatible in core mechanical ways. Like, for instance, if you do the turn-into-mist thing, your arm simply doesn't and falls off onto the floor. Thus you could DO it, but you'd have to cherrypick what abilities you're going to use, thus somewhat limiting your options anyway.

Replacing your skin with something sunlight resistant

Honestly, this seems like a more complicated and bothersome solution to something that could have been solved with a trenchcoat, a hat, and some sunglasses. I mean, that's what I do to avoid being burned by the accursed light of the hated daystar.

or removing your need to constantly consume blood is a no-no.

I can't imagine that there's a cyber-thing that removes your need to ingest matter anyway. That would just plain contradict physics.

 

[Tyranicon]

Nemesis weapons. Hyper rare and they're one-use only. Manufactured by the Slayer Order via arcane rituals. The blood on the tips is there for a reason.

Vampire enemies in the game will be extremely rare and almost all of them will be unique named characters (the exception being the ones in training simulations). I am leaning towards the "every NPC will be killable" camp, but will have to see how much work it actually is.

 

[hello friend]

I still think Moonfall: Fuck and Kill is the best name.

Cybervamps is also very good.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Weapons:

Melee

Obligatory hammer types, not simply police and riot control types, but also random stuff like some collectors medieval flanged mace that's blessed by some saint or some garbage.

Chainsaw

Axe types. Maybe a hand axe or hatchet plus something like a door breaker axe or similar that firemen use.



Ranged

At least one obligatory revolver type hand cannon.

Three shotguns - hunting, combat, makeshift. Each is capable of loading specific to them type of ammo.

Crossbow / Bow with different poison and such type options.

Also nonlethal options like taser and beanbag stuff

 

[NecroLord]

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Nemesis weapons. Hyper rare and they're one-use only. Manufactured by the Slayer Order via arcane rituals. The blood on the tips is there for a reason.

Vampire enemies in the game will be extremely rare and almost all of them will be unique named characters (the exception being the ones in training simulations). I am leaning towards the "every NPC will be killable" camp, but will have to see how much work it actually is.

Looking pretty good.
Castlevania vampire killer type weapons, then?

 

[Tyranicon]

Weapons:

Melee

Obligatory hammer types, not simply police and riot control types, but also random stuff like some collectors medieval flanged mace that's blessed by some saint or some garbage.

Chainsaw

Axe types. Maybe a hand axe or hatchet plus something like a door breaker axe or similar that firemen use.



Ranged

At least one obligatory revolver type hand cannon.

Three shotguns - hunting, combat, makeshift. Each is capable of loading specific to them type of ammo.

Crossbow / Bow with different poison and such type options.

Also nonlethal options like taser and beanbag stuff

Weapon classes aren't finalized yet, they'll probably be broken down into what they do and how their mechanics work. But also importantly, how easy assets are to source.

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Nemesis weapons. Hyper rare and they're one-use only. Manufactured by the Slayer Order via arcane rituals. The blood on the tips is there for a reason.

Vampire enemies in the game will be extremely rare and almost all of them will be unique named characters (the exception being the ones in training simulations). I am leaning towards the "every NPC will be killable" camp, but will have to see how much work it actually is.

Looking pretty good.
Castlevania vampire killer type weapons, then?

Pretty much, but they're single use weapons meant specifically to kill vampires. So, you won't be using these on humans or robots or anything else. They also disappear from your inventory after use.

 

[good fucking shit happen]

I still think Moonfall: Fuck and Kill is the best name.

Nigga you forget about the vampire shieeet. MOONFALL: SUCK FUCK AND KILL!

 

[Harthwain]

Pretty much, but they're single use weapons meant specifically to kill vampires. So, you won't be using these on humans or robots or anything else. They also disappear from your inventory after use.

What happens when you use it on a non-vampire?

 

[Norfleet]

Pretty much, but they're single use weapons meant specifically to kill vampires. So, you won't be using these on humans or robots or anything else. They also disappear from your inventory after use.

What happens when you use it on a non-vampire?

Either the game prevents you from doing something obviously stupid or unimplemented, or you waste it doing normal weakass damage and the weapon is wasted because the magic blood is ruined.

 

[Tyranicon]

Pretty much, but they're single use weapons meant specifically to kill vampires. So, you won't be using these on humans or robots or anything else. They also disappear from your inventory after use.

What happens when you use it on a non-vampire?

Same thing that happens if you stab someone with a letter opener: it's not a weapon optimized for combat, so it won't do as much damage as regular gear. But since it's not used on a vampire, it won't activate the vampire-killing effect and explode. My go-to idea is, as Norfleet said, to render it useless, but these weapons are actually pretty durable. It's the vampire's death process (which is... involved) that destroys them

One thing I do want to do is let the player retain the Nemesis weapons after they killed a vampire, and afterwards they could be forged into a weapon with traits specific to the vampire they were used to kill. Kind of like Dark Souls boss weapons.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

That's a lot of thought for a techno-stake man.

 

[Tyranicon]

That's a lot of thought for a techno-stake man.

Oh yeah dude, if I don't watch it this project will take me 10 years to complete and I'll die of poverty or a cheeto diet or something.

But hey, I'm in an unique position where I can actually fulltime solodev, so I'm gonna go balls to the wall on this thing.

 

[Technomancer]

So for this game I think I will reduce the number of weapons and instead focus on making them distinct mechanically and customizable. Just like how in the real world, elite military forces converge on the same few firearm platforms, that'll probably be true of vampires and their familiars, who can afford the best.

Add some slayer antivamp spike throwers, F.E.A.R. style.

 

[hello friend]

You should add an Authentic Japanese Ninja Katana that breaks after a single use. Found in some fedora's basement.