Help me understand why this mastery does not improve Anne's chance to debuff targets
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Incline Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children - isometric tactical Korean SRPG
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Shaki
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Help me understand why this mastery does not improve Anne's chance to debuff targets
Had the same problem, from what I've noticed it doesn't work with debuffs that are added to ability by masteries, only for ones which are a part of ability from the beginning. I was also unsuccessfully trying to make 100% blind chance Anne.
As you can see in description of white heat, it beefs up "ability that does not inflict debuffs", while magic theory beefs up "ability that inflicts debuffs". My theory is that the game puts abilities in one of those categories depending on the base ability, and regardless of how you change that ability, the category itself don't change, so even if you modify it to inflict debuff, it's still treated as being in "ability that does not inflict debuffs" category, and masteries mentioning "ability that inflicts debuffs" will never affect it.
Maybe something got lost during translation, and original makes it clearer that it only applies depending on the basic state of the ability.
Zumbabul
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Help me understand why this mastery does not improve Anne's chance to debuff targets
Had the same problem, from what I've noticed it doesn't work with debuffs that are added to ability by masteries, only for ones which are a part of ability from the beginning. I was also unsuccessfully trying to make 100% blind chance Anne.
As you can see in description of white heat, it beefs up "ability that does not inflict debuffs", while magic theory beefs up "ability that inflicts debuffs". My theory is that the game puts abilities in one of those categories depending on the base ability, and regardless of how you change that ability, the category itself don't change, so even if you modify it to inflict debuff, it's still treated as being in "ability that does not inflict debuffs" category, and masteries mentioning "ability that inflicts debuffs" will never affect it.
Maybe something got lost during translation, and original makes it clearer that it only applies depending on the basic state of the ability.
Sadly, the game is not consistent with such kind of description. For example, 'frost touch' and 'frost sword' have similar descriptions, but they stack. So, sometimes you will need to put effort and test how the masteries actually work. For some weird reasons, this gives me a pleasant nostalgic feeling.
Fuck, I accidentally quit a mission and lost my 100% clearance rate 
EDIT: Despite Lhynn's mystical YES!, this is NOT true. Albus keeps paying the salary and taking all dialogue. Company Leader is ONLY your avatar in Shooter street.
Upon further consideration of the below - does the company leader pay salaries? Because then there is a mechanical benefits in terms of friendship bonds
Upon further consideration of the below - does the company leader pay salaries? Because then there is a mechanical benefits in terms of friendship bonds
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Sykar
Arcane
Say if I switch a class, unlock its ability and switch back to the other class, do I retain the unlocked abilities?
You keep all the unlocked abilities, but the slots change. You lose access to that class' masteries, though.
Yes. So what you should always do is max all classes, then pick the one you want to roll with
Sykar
Arcane
What exactly is "casting delay"? Wondering if I should get Starlight Fragments on Anne but unsure what it does.
It adds time. So casting delay = additional time added before next turn. As far as I understand it
WhiteShark
Learned
Also pro-tip: you can never reduce turn delay below 36 on that character's turn no matter how many masteries you have that reduce turn delay. However, if the turn delay reduction occurs off-turn, you can reduce it all the way to 0.
Addendum: I'm pretty sure end-of-turn effects are counted as off-turn but I would have to double check.
Addendum: I'm pretty sure end-of-turn effects are counted as off-turn but I would have to double check.
Is there anyone you *don't* run one-shot-one-kill on guys?
Sykar
Arcane
White mage probably. Also damn this game is addictive. Met Kevin the first time and he made a big mistake getting too close to Albus who had Turn the Leaf on and he just got murdered. Fucker downed 3 of my police men I tried to rescue.
Zumbabul
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It may sound strange, but there will be offensive characters for whom 1s1k is not optimal.
Sykar
Arcane
You mean a new one?
I didn't like One Shot One Kill on Irene and Albus.
With Lonely Hero, Irene already acts constantly thanks to Forestallment and the action time reducing mastery sets.
With Albus, I couldn't really find enough space to equip it due to how many good class masteries he has.
On the other hand, I never unequipped it from my Black Mage Sion, who doesn't even need Catharsis thanks to the cooldown reduction already built in his sets.
I could see skipping it on Albus and Irene, but on Black Mage Sion it just sounds nuts. Even if there's no targets left you can use the point to conceal or standby.
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Sykar
Arcane
Sion's greatest strength, best bro in-game. Hell give me a DLC with him as the protagnist, I buy it instantly!
Absolutely, but that doesn't mean much: I would buy instantly even a DLC with rusty as the protagonist.
Zumbabul
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Battle mages (Irene or Sion) rely on having maximum CMP charges and quickly gaining their turn. 1s1k will drop their CMP charges, and they will their power. Hellgate Anne or Bibi rely on army of zombies, so they don't need 1s1k. Ranger Heixing can get half of his kills during enemy turn, so 1s1k doesn't really benefit him. Spellcasting Giselle does not need to shoot, so she can skip it too. Leton does not need 1s1k, he needs freeze grenades.
There are battle mages in this game?
Wait, are we talking about Vindictive Spirits? Is the translation wrong? It says "Target that *put you out of action*". Is that translation wrong - so you get the zombie if you put the target out of action? I gotta try that, if that's the case
Zumbabul
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There are battle mages in this game?
Wait, are we talking about Vindictive Spirits? Is the translation wrong? It says "Target that *put you out of action*". Is that translation wrong - so you get the zombie if you put the target out of action? I gotta try that, if that's the case
Yes, the target that killed you. That is you need to die. But, you gain control over that unit for 3 turns. Sounds like crap, but, you can make it much better. There is a mastery set Hellgate. It applies vindictive spirit in 8 tile radius. So, after dying, you will get an army of zombies instead of a zombie. You can also equip a second heart, so after 'dying' you will be alive. And there is a mastery set Third Heart, which will let you trigger second heart twice. In the late game, you will be able to craft a Death potion, so you can die when you want.
Since missions are predetermined, you know where the enemies will appear. You can simplify some very difficult missions by strategically sacrificing your witch.
Heh, very cool. Though sounds like a lot of work for limited gain
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