Butthurt There's a nigger and gay sex in Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2!

[cvv]

The screens are real, there is one Mali guy in the game

However, the dialogue it is actually hilarious. They are using him to criticize modern western (ex)europeans and their suicidal tendencies.
"We treat women with greater respect" and "we don't let foreigners into our mines" is exactly what westerners should do, while in reality they do the opposite (see UK, Germany in particular). By letting black guy say this stuff they immunize themselves while making this critique.
That said, some woke westoids are still no doubt going to whine that he is a "token black guy".

Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be fired immediately.

Except I have this sinking feeling it was Vavra, thinking he was being smart with this stupid prank.

 

[Konjad]

It's OVER for KCD2

 

[Ryzer]

Czechia was always multicultural full of Jamal, and if you disagree you are a racist piece of shit.

 

[cvv]

It's OVER for KCD2

What's wrong with that? This is a typical Italian man. We know Italians used to live in Kuttenberg.

 

[Swen]

Would your retards stop posting fake pics. Let's wait and we'll see when the reviews drop before getting outraged.

 

[Litmanen]

Guys, it's true that I enjoy laughing at your tantrums, but, in any case, I’d like to make a serious contribution to the discussion, even though I know you’ll twist it however you please.

It’s not entirely out of the question that there were black people in Bohemia during that period because, at the time, trade (including slaves and 'servants' in general) was very extensive.

Last year, I was reading this book: Francesco Carletti - My Voyage Around the World, which you can also find in German. It’s the account of the travels of this Florentine merchant between Cape Verde, Central and Latin America, China, Eastern Asia and Europe around 1600. He dealt in both goods and human 'cargo.' He certainly wasn’t a trailblazer, and from reading his account, it’s clear that what he was doing was common practice across Europe.

Well, at one point, without batting an eye, he says, 'Returning from Korea (which he calls by its name at the time), I brought back a korean boy, who now lives in Rome and answers to the name Antonio.'

So, there was a Korean named Antonio living in Rome in 1600. And this didn’t surprise anyone. There probably weren’t a thousand or even a hundred like him, but there were Koreans n Rome around 1600. I don’t see why the same couldn’t have happened with a Black person in Bohemia, considering how much 'black human resources' were being moved around at the time.

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[Litmanen]

I didn't know that: there is also a wikipedia page about the Korean guy:

Antonio Corea

 

[Beowulf]

Common practice was mending pans, closing your doors, and tying your pants with a string, if you couldn't afford a belt as a peasant, not sailing across the world to buy young boys. I get what you mean, and it has been stated here already that it's not outside the realm of possibility, but lets not make it sound like it was all that common and "nobody" was surprised.
Besides that, you're forgetting that those journeys and the discovery of sea trade routes (instead of long and arduous land treks) came with the dawn of the galley age, which happened long after the events of the game.

 

[Swen]

Even in the 50's it was rare to see a black in Belgium, hell were even human zoos back then to show them, that's how rare they were. So it's almost impossible for blacks to be in fcking 1400 Bohemia.

1958 Belgium:

If it's true, hope Vavra has a good explanation.

 

[Ryzer]

Even in the 50's it was rare to see a black in Belgium, hell were even human zoos back then to show them, that's how rare they were. So it's almost impossible for blacks to be in fcking 1400 Bohemia.

1958 Belgium:

If it's true, hope Vavra has a good explanation.

Ah in a century or so, it will be the other way around in Belgium.

 

[Swen]

Even in the 50's it was rare to see a black in Belgium, hell were even human zoos back then to show them, that's how rare they were. So it's almost impossible for blacks to be in fcking 1400 Bohemia.

1958 Belgium:

If it's true, hope Vavra has a good explanation.

Ah in a century or so, it will be the other way around in Belgium.

 

[GrainWetski]

The screens are real, there is one Mali guy in the game

However, the dialogue it is actually hilarious. They are using him to criticize modern western (ex)europeans and their suicidal tendencies.
"We treat women with greater respect" and "we don't let foreigners into our mines" is exactly what westerners should do, while in reality they do the opposite (see UK, Germany in particular). By letting black guy say this stuff they immunize themselves while making this critique.
That said, some woke westoids are still no doubt going to whine that he is a "token black guy".

Totally what they're doing, guys! Haha, very funneh joke and so smart.

In the DLC there'll be a group trans muslims in wheelchairs lecturing us about the evils of white men and it's all just to "criticize the modern west". The WOKE WESTOIDS will no doubt whine that xirs is just a token minorities! HAIL BASED VAVRA for doing diversity right!!

Guys, it's true that I enjoy laughing at your tantrums, but, in any case, I’d like to make a serious contribution to the discussion, even though I know you’ll twist it however you please.

It’s not entirely out of the question that there were black people in Bohemia during that period because, at the time, trade (including slaves and 'servants' in general) was very extensive.

Last year, I was reading this book: Francesco Carletti - My Voyage Around the World, which you can also find in German. It’s the account of the travels of this Florentine merchant between Cape Verde, Central and Latin America, China, Eastern Asia and Europe around 1600. He dealt in both goods and human 'cargo.' He certainly wasn’t a trailblazer, and from reading his account, it’s clear that what he was doing was common practice across Europe.

Well, at one point, without batting an eye, he says, 'Returning from Korea (which he calls by its name at the time), I brought back a korean boy, who now lives in Rome and answers to the name Antonio.'

So, there was a Korean named Antonio living in Rome in 1600. And this didn’t surprise anyone. There probably weren’t a thousand or even a hundred like him, but there were Koreans n Rome around 1600. I don’t see why the same couldn’t have happened with a Black person in Bohemia, considering how much 'black human resources' were being moved around at the time.

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"There was a Korean guy in Italy in the 1600s, so niggers were everywhere in 1400s Bohemia!" very unique and original revisionist stuff, "my dude". If people wanted to read Reddit fantasies, they'd go there. It still exists so you really don't have to post this garbage here to remind us.

No, niggers weren't always everywhere in Europe. Your globalist Utopia doesn't exist now and it didn't exist 600 years ago. I get that you think the white devil sprung out of hell and destroyed the European Wakanda full of niggers in the 1940s or something, but that's just your sexual fantasies.

 

[Yosharian]

 

[Habichtswalder]

Guys, it's true that I enjoy laughing at your tantrums, but, in any case, I’d like to make a serious contribution to the discussion, even though I know you’ll twist it however you please.

It’s not entirely out of the question that there were black people in Bohemia during that period because, at the time, trade (including slaves and 'servants' in general) was very extensive.

Last year, I was reading this book: Francesco Carletti - My Voyage Around the World, which you can also find in German. It’s the account of the travels of this Florentine merchant between Cape Verde, Central and Latin America, China, Eastern Asia and Europe around 1600. He dealt in both goods and human 'cargo.' He certainly wasn’t a trailblazer, and from reading his account, it’s clear that what he was doing was common practice across Europe.

Well, at one point, without batting an eye, he says, 'Returning from Korea (which he calls by its name at the time), I brought back a korean boy, who now lives in Rome and answers to the name Antonio.'

So, there was a Korean named Antonio living in Rome in 1600. And this didn’t surprise anyone. There probably weren’t a thousand or even a hundred like him, but there were Koreans n Rome around 1600. I don’t see why the same couldn’t have happened with a Black person in Bohemia, considering how much 'black human resources' were being moved around at the time.

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Thank you for your effort in finding this information. However, I don’t think this logic can be applied to the situation in medieval Bohemia.

On the one hand, there are temporal differences; on the other, Rome as a centuries-old world city is drastically different from Kuttenberg. Among other things, Rome was a port city, which already makes a huge difference.

Furthermore, the fact that we have contemporary sources about this Korean boy, and he even has a Wikipedia article, shows that his existence must have seemed so extraordinary to people at the time that they wrote notes about it. I can also mention a similar case from my hometown, where an African boy lived in the 18th century, and his skin color became so well known that there are numerous contemporary records and even entire books about him.

However, there are no records of sub-Saharan Africans in Bohemia during the time of this game. Wouldn’t people have written about it if they had seen a Black person in this region for the first time in the 15th century? After all, they did so in many other places. Essentially, there are only three possible explanations: the first, which I personally believe, is that there simply were no dark-skinned people in Bohemia. The second is that all sources about it were lost, but other contemporary sources survived, which would be quite a coincidence. The third explanation would be that the existence of Black people in Bohemia was so commonplace that it seemed unimportant to anyone to write about it. But we can probably all agree that this was not the case.

 

[Litmanen]

"There was a Korean guy in Italy in the 1600s, so niggers were everywhere in 1400s Bohemia!"

Did I say that, you idiot? I was trying to make a normal discussion but, evidently, it is impossible with people like you.

Feel free to fight your stupid crusades with equally stupid comrades. I don't have any utopia or political agenda. I just disrespect people based on their intelligence, not their color. You can be white, black, yellow or even green; it doesn't matter: you would always be a dumbass.

However, there are no records of sub-Saharan Africans in Bohemia during the time of this game. Wouldn’t people have written about it if they had seen a Black person in this region for the first time in the 15th century? After all, they did so in many other places. Essentially, there are only three possible explanations: the first, which I personally believe, is that there simply were no dark-skinned people in Bohemia. The second is that all sources about it were lost, but other contemporary sources survived, which would be quite a coincidence. The third explanation would be that the existence of Black people in Bohemia was so commonplace that it seemed unimportant to anyone to write about it. But we can probably all agree that this was not the case.

I’ll address your entire post, but I’ll start by quoting this part as an example. My intention was simply to show how many strange and unusual things could happen during periods when we are generally led to think they didn’t. Of course, Rome in the late 16th century is not Bohemia in the early 15th century—on that, we are in complete agreement. I also agree (and it’s impossible to deny that you’re right) that there are no written records of black people in Bohemia during that time.

However, in the same general period, there were depictions of black people in European paintings (e.g., the Three Magi), and in some courts, there were "black courtiers" or "Moors," often used as symbols of opulence and power. So, the presence of black individuals in Europe wasn’t so uncommon as to cause widespread shock.

This suggests that it’s possible black people could have been in Bohemia without anyone feeling compelled to write about them. It’s a possibility that is both historically acceptable and plausible.

At the same time, it’s equally possible (and historically acceptable) that there weren’t any. In my opinion, though, it wouldn’t have been particularly "scandalous" either way.

 

[Hace El Oso]

However, the dialogue it is actually hilarious. They are using him to criticize modern western (ex)europeans and their suicidal tendencies.
"We treat women with greater respect" and "we don't let foreigners into our mines" is exactly what westerners should do, while in reality they do the opposite (see UK, Germany in particular). By letting black guy say this stuff they immunize themselves while making this critique.

So, the presence of black individuals in Europe wasn’t so uncommon as to cause widespread shock.

If this were true, where did they all disappear to by the time I was a boy?

 

[Stavrophore]

If black traders were to visit a city like Kutenberg, you can be dead ass sure it would be chronicled. If there are no historical sources about stuff like that, then it's just the game dev fantasy. Decline

 

[NecroLord]

If black traders were to visit a city like Kutenberg, you can be dead ass sure it would be chronicled. If there are no historical sources about stuff like that, then it's just the game dev fantasy. Decline

Yes.
It would've been chronicled and have been a subject of discussion.
Ottoman trader/traveller/chronicler I CAN believe, but We Wuz scholar?
Uh-uh...

Anyway, here's to hoping more game footage comes out along with an explanation from Vavra himself.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Guys, it's true that I enjoy laughing at your tantrums

Joined Feb 27, 2024

 

[Litmanen]

Guys, it's true that I enjoy laughing at your tantrums

Joined Feb 27, 2024

I was already laughing on the 27th of February. That day I met already the king of laughable users: The Wall

 

[Larianshill]

I was dubious about the whole screenshot deal from the beginning, but I'm beginning to lean heavily towards "fake" now.
Why only drip fed screenshots, in an era where anything can be faked by an AI? Why not a webm? Why only of this negro? Why aren't screenshots of plot critical moments leaking? Why didn't the ending leak? Why the very first screenshot featuring this negro have dialogue that couldn't be more ragebait-y if you tried, with him talking about respecting women? I think it's incredibly well-crafted outrage bait.
If it turns out that he's actually in the game, however, I'll delete this post and act as if I always known that Vavra is a cuck.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Hey guys, new screenshot from KCD2 just dropped:

This one doesn't look like a travelling merchant!

 

[Heroic Liberator]

By Yakub, Czechian tricknology at its finest.

 

[Stavrophore]

 

[Rieser]

Just shy of 30 hours in now. I've yet to see a black person. Not saying they're not in, but they can't exactly be common.

Gypsies, on the other hand, are in. Which makes sense given the rural setting and the fact we're in Bohemia. Did a quest the other day where I tried to shack up a Cuman with a gypsy, but my Henry is an oaf with no speech so he talked shit about gypsies instead.