The Witcher 3 Pre-Expansion Thread

[Metro]

And yet by his actions, Metro has given more attention to the game than his Harbingers of Decline( which doesn't even include Haba, and is therefore invalid).

Someone's mad they're on the list. Not my fault you love Witcher 3, guy.

 

[Kem0sabe]

PS4 version:

 

[ERYFKRAD]

And yet by his actions, Metro has given more attention to the game than his Harbingers of Decline( which doesn't even include Haba, and is therefore invalid).

Someone's mad they're on the list. Not my fault you love Witcher 3, guy.

I haven't played it yet.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Sure, it's just that more Codexers than I would have expected seem to spend a lot of time playing with and defending retards while they seem to only enjoy shitting on the "genius." Actually I think PoE isn't a wonder or a genius, but just another kid in class who the teacher decided was a genius and then decides to shit all over when he can't perform to the unmerited expectations.

ITT several people saying with all seriousness that W3 is a better game and a better RPG than PoE. Are you kidding me? This is console action garbage masquerading as a great CRPG without a single doubt and pretty much represents every aspect of the decline, yet many are saying that it's superior to PoE. Dumbing down and streamlining CRPGs to appeal to casuals and console gamers has got to be somewhere near the top of the list of decline. If you have fun with console action garbage, that's perfectly fine. I play a lot of platformers and roguelikes when I'm not playing RPGs, but if anyone goes full retard and says that Spelunky is a better RPG than Wasteland 2 (obviously a more extreme example) please someone explain to them how retarded they are because they don't know what an RPG is. PoE may have disappointed the expectations of a lot of people for sure, but if you actually think that Witcher 3 trash is a better RPG, then you should just sell your PC and put the money in your fund for when the next round of consoles get released, you'll need them to properly play all the future AAA console releases that you think are quality RPGs.

Witcher 3 is miles ahead of Kill the Xaurip by virtue of its OST and VA alone. Heck, it's a better game under any department.

More fun and less ed for sure and even if we are into constructing strawmen to bash its worse RPG than both DDOS and W2 were. I am installing Enchanced edition of Twicher 2 now no way I am going to be CDPR beta tester or fight with their clunky combat when there is finished game which even looks better than sequel. Will play the thrid part when the devs or modders will fix the controls.

 

[Perkel]

Played 1 fight. Knows all about the combat mechanics. 'k.

I don't claim that.

Still i fought about 20 times this fight on hardest def so i had to learn combat to win it.

Is tw combat button mash ? No
That alone makes it better than lets say DAI

Is tw combat constant roll ? No
That alone makes it better than tw2

So far from initial impressions combat improved a lot from tw2

 

[Metro]

Why are you lovebirds fighting amongst yourselves? You are Tit Witcher lovers! Revel in your shared joys! Anyway, the animals now have a cage. My work is done.

 

[cepheiden]

Confirmed for trolling.

Rolling and spamming signs works fine on hard. Stamina doesn't go down for rolling. (It just stops regenerating during the roll on higher difficulty). If you rolla short distance away from enemies, they'll wait a while before reengaging. So you can roll around for a bit, let stamina regen, then fire a sign. Then resume rolling. Or if there's just one enemy in lunging distance, you can mash fast attack. The hit animation will make them unable to retaliate and you can easily chain 4-5 hits in before the rolling resumes.

Exactly. The games combat is simply unbalanced because you are virtually not limited in any way other than maybe failing to keep on rolling.
It's just mind boggling:
There they are, a company with millions in the bank and hundreds of talented employees and many years of time. Yet they fail to actually get the most basic, most defining element of their product right. If their goal was to create an interactive movie, they succeeded. In fact it's more of a cheap sex novel with animated titties set in some medieval land. But it's simply not a game since it's impossible to lose if you pay attention.

I feel trolled by games like Witcher or Skyrim. Or rather trolled by all the people buying into nice graphics and advertising over actual gameplay and thus preventing us from getting an actual game.
It's like slapping every hobby or serious game designer in the face and saying: "Hurr we basically wrap a piece of shit in gold paper and people will still buy it over your piece of extremely solid and useful, but not so aesthetic steel." Although in case of the Witcher it's more like a hybrid alloy of 50% shit and 50% gold with a pure 100% shit core.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Why are you lovebirds fighting amongst yourselves? You are Tit Witcher lovers! Revel in your shared joys! Anyway, the animals now have a cage. My work is done.

Still that Slav made whack a mole superior than Kwan made Banalure Komrade

?

 

[Hegel]

Tits and potatoes have always been Poland's best export, now imagine them combined into a single virtual downloadable packet. Best Poland, Poland is strong.

That capital structure. https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/Investor_Relations/Financial_summary_report

 

[Metro]

My work is done.

 

[Talby]

Quoted from the other thread because this amused me;

Abso Fucking lutely Thaller is in game. Best spy ever.

What the fuck kind of shitty hair physics is that? 2015 hellooo.

Spoiler

 

[Perkel]

Why are you lovebirds fighting amongst yourselves? You are Tit Witcher lovers! Revel in your shared joys! Anyway, the animals now have a cage. My work is done.

Obviously to annoy you.

 

[deranged]

I am only a few hours in, but the combat is descent, much better than I was expecting actually. Certainly not spammy at the Death March difficulty level. It's not Dark Souls, but it's not Skyrim or DA:I clusterfuck either.

 

[Perkel]

I am only a few hours in, but the combat is descent, much better than I was expecting actually. Certainly not spammy at the Death March difficulty level. It's not Dark Souls, but it's not Skyrim or DA:I clusterfuck either.

But yeah i agree it is much better than i assumed it will be.

 

[Roguey]

Yet they hobbled the graphical fidelity of the PC version just so that it wouldn't outshine the PS4 and Xbone too much.

Considering the high system requirements versus what you see on screen, I don't think that's the reason at all.

 

[cepheiden]

What is the problem with regenerating energy ? I mean DS has exactly the same system. I am yet to find if balance of it is fucked up but i couldn't spam queen like in TW2.

Yes i played DS in fact i played all DS games including Deamon's Souls and i know what you are talking about. I wasn't talking about weight system itself but about actuall movement. Only thing weight affects DS is character roll speed (with iframes) and stamina regen in Des2 it also handles roll distance but they decoupled iframes from weight and moved it to stat.

I was talking about weight of movement itself. Geralt feels weight to controll much more than DS. In DS you can literally spin in circle as fast as your hand can do it where here it is governed by animation i think.

Like i said best comparison here is Monster Hunter games. There are few differnces but overall it is similar system or should i say "similar weight".
I don't claim TW3 has better combat than DS or MH for now. Too little time spend with it.

MH combat also was BAD for me when i started to play it and with time it grew on me and i found it good. Different than DS but good in its own way. Not talking naturally about stats but animations system response etc.

I think you are mixing the stamina (for physical actions) and the energy (for magic).
All physical actions were limited by Stamina in DS, so no endless rolling. Nothing limites physical actions in the Witcher.
All magic was limited to a certain amount of uses in DS. In the Witcher you may use magic as much as you want if you wait for the energy to regenerate, and it regenerates quite fast. So in the end magic is virtually unlimited in the Witcher.

I get where you are coming from with the weight of movements. It's nice that in Witcher the animations are somewhat realistic and it takes time to turn etc. However, it is questionable how beneficial this is to the actual gameplay. Compared to DS the Witcher just feels kinda unresponsive. Not to mention the obvious disparity between trying to get ultra realistic animations and combat feeling, while basically blowing away all of this effort by blasting it with ridiculous risk-free magic and unlimited resources.
The Witcher 3 combat system is basically an oxymoron.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

Oh, I caught the deathbed-bound girl at the herbalist shack actually merrily walking back from the stove to the bed, only because I fast-travelled there at dawn (not sure how it's repeatable, but it sure as fuck was annoying, especially because I was going there for the very purpose of curing her, only to find her up and running already...).

happened to me also. But I had cured her already, but then a read the quest completed text, it is said that geralt never saw the girl again, but she was eventually cured, but became mad due to the effects of a witcher's toxic potion. and this text appear immediatelly after we give her the potion, so the game already tells you the "consequece" of your actions. Not that you had any choices of not curing the girl, or try another simpler potion, and you see the consequences by yourself later in the game.

In any case, Yesterday I've reached Vizima and the game pulls me a Star wars revelation. I say this because back when i was a kid, I saw return of the jedi before the empire stricks back, so that was how I discovered Darth Vader was luke's father.

Spoiler

I've read the books till half of "times of contempt", and I liked Duny (Ciri's father) from that parody tale of the beauty and the beast. Now you tell me he is the emperor of all known world?

I'm amazed that after playing two witcher games and following threads on this very forum, I never stumbled at this spoiler. I believe that this is something that would be considered common knowledge.

Anyway, back to levels and combat, at first I thought I couldn't beat that level 7 wraith at the crypts because that's what games with level systems teaches you how to behave. But as soon as i go randomly trying to kill it, I managed to win with my level 2 witcher.

But the game is fun for witcher fanboys.

 

[Alienman]

Seems like Metro just listed everyone in the thread as liking the game. Sure, I was a bit hyped since I liked the story in W1 & 2...

Anyway, been playing some more now, and just want to voice my opinion on it for some reason. And well it's not a very good game, at least to me. It's just boring/mediocre. The open world thing feels like a slug to get through. Nothing feels really "alive". It's like one of those animatronic museums. You might enjoy it. I mean to have a look at how people in this world could have lived if it ever was real, but it never immerses you in. There is almost no-one to talk to, and everyone is on repeat. At least in the Gothic/Risen games it felt like the people had a life, and a reason for being there, and doing what they do. Piranha Bytes old games is still the best if you want an open world game in my opinion. And as many of you have been saying, this is not really an RPG. It feels more like Mass Effect but without any of choice.

There is nothing dynamic about the world at all, it's just fake like the rest. Like in the first area. I killed some ghouls in a abandoned village and got served a cut-scene after all the beasts were dead. When the game was returned to my control this village was now "saved" and filled with peasants that had moved in. All in this one second. It feels MMO-like, just like Inquisition. You will never enter this village again, it just... has no point to it. If this is the reason they are calling it a breathing living world, man I don't know. "Your actions have consequences" Right, but I never cared about this village, and where did all these people come from?

Story-wise. I don't know. Everything feels a bit random.

Spoiler

The big war? Who cares, don't affect Geralt and his buddies it seems like. Wild Hunt? Oh noes they wanna kidnap Ciri, a character I have never heard about before. There is some introduction, and it seems Geralt care for her, but the important thing is that I don't. Who is she? And Yennefer. Sure I have heard about her, but I have actually never met her, so it's mostly Geralt that are caring again and not the player. Yennefer don't seem to care much about Geralt anyway, so... Maybe it will get more interesting later, but so far the main story which should feel important don't really.

 

[Perkel]

happened to me also. But I had cured her already, but then a read the quest completed text, it is said that geralt never saw the girl again, but she was eventually cured, but became mad due to the effects of a witcher's toxic potion. and this text appear immediatelly after we give her the potion, so the game already tells you the "consequece" of your actions. Not that you had any choices of not curing the girl, or try another simpler potion, and you see the consequences by yourself later in the game.

In any case, Yesterday I've reached Vizima and the game pulls me a Star wars revelation. I say this because back when i was a kid, I saw return of the jedi before the empire stricks back, so that was how I discovered Darth Vader was luke's father.

I've read the books till half of "times of contempt", and I liked Duny (Ciri's father) from that parody tale of the beauty and the beast. Now you tell me he is the emperor of all known world?

I'm amazed that after playing two witcher games and following threads on this very forum, I never stumbled at this spoiler. I believe that this is something that would be considered common knowledge.

Anyway, back to levels and combat, at first I thought I couldn't beat that level 7 wraith at the crypts because that's what games with level systems teaches you how to behave. But as soon as i go randomly trying to kill it, I managed to win with my level 2 witcher.

But the game is fun for witcher fanboys.

Yes it known for any dude who read complete saga. It was one of the big things in books to. Also spoiler that shit. You don't want to ruin fun for people.

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

Played 1 fight. Knows all about the combat mechanics. 'k.

I don't claim that.

Still i fought about 20 times this fight on hardest def so i had to learn combat to win it.

Is tw combat button mash ? No
That alone makes it better than lets say DAI

Is tw combat constant roll ? No
That alone makes it better than tw2

So far from initial impressions combat improved a lot from tw2

the fuck i am reading? yes it is constant combat roll with constant button mash. do we even play the same game? what improvements from tw2? lock-on is still shit, targeting is fucked-up, there is no poise/hyper-armour, your attacks has no weight behind them, you never know what your attack will look like e.g. fast thrust or long as fuck double pirouette animation, attack animations are shit when they should be tight as fuck, geralt movement is clunky with horrible input lag, there are no combos just shitty skyrim-like kill camera.
ffs dragons dogma lets you have at least 9 different spells/combos/attacks on a fucking controller. in the meantime pc centric game have fast and strong attack and all your fucking skills are %bonuses what a fucking shit

 

[Ulminati]

It even starts right in the intro dreamsequence when Geralt is training Ciri.
"Come on! Do silly pirouettes!" "More spinning!"

"Ok, now jump down and follow me." "Do I make an unnecessary backflip?" "What do you think?" *Ciri backflips*

Then the game goes on to say Geralt is a master swordsman. If he was a master swordsman, he wouldn't turn his back to his enemies in the middle of an attack. Too much wasted motion.

If they removed all the long animations and tweaked turning/target lock a little, combat control could be so much better. Here's a novel idea -- how about changing Target Lock so that it locks the camera on the enemy you're targetting?

 

[Darth Slaughter]

Yes it known for any dude who read complete saga. It was one of the big things in books to. Also spoiler that shit. You don't want to ruin fun for people.

And yet you quoted. In any case, I have put a spoiler tag, which will attract even more atention to it, and everybody will know...

Spoiler

Like this

the best option is hide it in plain sight.

Well, i just thought that spoiler would be all over everywhere at this point. One does not have to spoiler tag this:

Spoiler

Darth vader is luke's father

 

[Doktor Best]

Oh NOE those guys dare to like arpgs, whereas i do not! Quick, lets make a funnay list, that will show them!.

Whatever floats your boat man

 

[dragonul09]

Played 1 fight. Knows all about the combat mechanics. 'k.

I don't claim that.

Still i fought about 20 times this fight on hardest def so i had to learn combat to win it.

Is tw combat button mash ? No
That alone makes it better than lets say DAI

Is tw combat constant roll ? No
That alone makes it better than tw2

So far from initial impressions combat improved a lot from tw2

the fuck i am reading? yes it is constant combat roll with constant button mash. do we even play the same game? what improvements from tw2? lock-on is still shit, targeting is fucked-up, there is no poise/hyper-armour, your attacks has no weight behind them, you never know what your attack will look like e.g. fast thrust or long as fuck double pirouette animation, attack animations are shit when they should be tight as fuck, geralt movement is clunky with horrible input lag, there are no combos just shitty skyrim-like kill camera.
ffs dragons dogma lets you have at least 9 different spells/combos/attacks on a fucking controller. in the meantime pc centric game have fast and strong attack and all your fucking skills are %bonuses what a fucking shit

I play on the hardest difficulty and you just can't smash buttons like a retard,yes you roll like a barrel the whole fight but you just can't smash that awesome button because you will get parried,interrupted or 2 shoted.For me ,the games feel hard if you take on more than 3 enemies,like nekkers,you just can't smash buttons agaisnt them,you will get buttfucked in 2-3 hits.
I blame the movement system tho,Geralt handles like a big old panzer...

 

[Franny Frogpill]

Took almost a whole day of AutoHotkey-ing, but it was worth it. Mouse navigation + my favourite key bindings + sign selection equals activation.
Severe sympathy loss for CDPR for their shoddy kb+m support though! (Would throw the first controller...)