The Witcher 3 Pre-Expansion Thread

[Dreaad]

I like all the " I played for one hour teh game is great reviews." FFS people, you complain about this shit when other people do it but when you do it somehow fine non-hype train acceptable behaviour.

Same shit happened with PoE, trash. Can't believe there is people claiming W3 combat is good for what it is. It's literally on par with a movie to game EA 'cash in' title.

 

[Ulminati]

Turns out it wasn't after all. Just a run of th emill console action openworld game. The real question is whether Poland will continue defending CDPR to the death, or will they turn on their own?

 

[Somberlain]

It has some grimdarkiness. It has some finishing moves. It has a token crafting system. It has an "RPG SYSTEM" where you watch a bar go up and get +2% damage. It has a token stealth system. It has a fast travel system. It has some talkie sections with face closeups and you get to pick between 2 options that have the same outcome. It ticks all the boxes and takes no chances.

CDPR have successfully managed to make an inoffensive, mediocre carbon-copy of just about every other console open world game. It is Batman without interesting stealth and good combat. It is Assassins Creed without parkour. It's Grand Theft Auto without wanton destruction and racing around.

Sounds like it indeed has all the qualifications of a 2015 AAA 10/10 GOTY blockbuster.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I like all the " I played for one hour teh game is great reviews." FFS people, you complain about this shit when other people do it but when you do it somehow fine non-hype train acceptable behaviour.

Same shit happened with PoE, trash. Can't believe there is people claiming W3 combat is good for what it is. It's literally on par with a movie to game EA 'cash in' title.

At least I warn people that I've played only a little, the professional cock suckers in prestigious websites writing reviews don't do that. The first couple of hours (some of which was tutorial) were entertaining. It's not like I've declared it the best thing ever. And, it's just a forum, isn't it?

It's not the same as with PoE for me, because I don't take W3 seriously, and I did take PoE seriously, backed it, participated in the beta, etc. I took it seriously, and then I played it. It was disappointing. And I had some unrecognized genius of game design tell me if I don't like it then obviously I don't know what fun is.

W3 and PoE seem similar to two students in the class, one being a wonder and the other a retard. If the retard ever says something right he gets all the praise as if he expanded Theory of Relativity, but if the genius ever does anything wrong, he gets disproportionately heavy criticism from the teacher

After all, PoE set me up to expect an IE game and delivered something different. W3 set expectations for more Witcher and that's what it delivers. Which of these options is better?

 

[Ulminati]

Twitch3r got its own subforum Infinijew. There's no need to keep moving posts between megathreads you know.

 

[cepheiden]

Combat system. Biggest surprise.
...BLA BLA BLA...

Yeah it's really difficult to dodge and time your attacks when you have UNLIMITED FUCKING STAMINA. The combat can't be taken seriously until they at least add stamina.
Not to mention that signs are the biggest cheese ever. Sure breaking away from the usual decision between some fighter, ranger or mage makes it nice to have all those options at the same time. However, they are not limited or balanced in any way. Just spam signs, roll around and wait for your UNLIMITED REGENERATING ENERGY to replenish and spam more signs until enemies are dead. What a challenge.
Btw if you seriously have trouble dodging with unlimited dodges maybe you should consider playing board games instead.

Then there is weight. It isn't weightless TW2 or near no weight Dark Souls movement. Here there is a weight and it is noticeable in how geralt moves.

Nobody who has ever played Derp Souls would say that. Confirmed for trolling.

 

[Lord Andre]

Watched a let's play up to the part where you kill the griffin and return with it's head for information. Game is shit just like witcher 2. The writing is shit, the dialogues are way overdrawn and obnoxious, combat looks like a quick time event, C&C is bioware paragon/renegade facepalm. Go here, 3 minute cutscene, walk/ride for 30 seconds, 3 minute cutscene, walk/ride for 30 seconds, kill whatever for 30 seconds, 3 minute cutscene, walk back 30 seconds, 3 minute cutscene...Disgusting.

The one thing that triggers me though is that a mediocre game like Risen 3 got bashed to bits on the codex but shit game like Witcher 3 is GOTY, amazing story, characters and C&C. Disgusting.

And the plastic, Jesus, everything looks like it was made of the shiniest, bloomiest plastic they could find.

3/10 would piss on it again.

 

[Perkel]

There shit ton of detail in that first small village. Hope rest of villages will have so many details.

Honestly surprised at pierce/blug/slash armor values.
I thought it was pure armor xx value.

I like all the " I played for one hour teh game is great reviews." FFS people, you complain about this shit when other people do it but when you do it somehow fine non-hype train acceptable behaviour.

Same shit happened with PoE, trash. Can't believe there is people claiming W3 combat is good for what it is. It's literally on par with a movie to game EA 'cash in' title.

Butthurt noticed me.

I played one hour but it is much better than TW2 one that is for sure. Will it be good after 10-50-100 hours ? i don't know. What i see so far has some depth in it and maybe it will be great in the end.

Let's compare it to for example Diablo 3 system. After first hour i knew already it was shit no matter time you will spend on it due to its design.

 

[Perkel]

Yeah it's really difficult to dodge and time your attacks when you have UNLIMITED FUCKING STAMINA. The combat can't be taken seriously until they at least add stamina.
Not to mention that signs are the biggest cheese ever. Sure breaking away from the usual decision between some fighter, ranger or mage makes it nice to have all those options at the same time. However, they are not limited or balanced in any way. Just spam signs, roll around and wait for your UNLIMITED REGENERATING ENERGY to replenish and spam more signs until enemies are dead. What a challenge.
Btw if you seriously have trouble dodging with unlimited dodges maybe you should consider playing board games instead.
Nobody who has ever played Derp Souls would say that. Confirmed for trolling.

Unlimited energy ? So far i couldn't spam Queen or any other sign. Still it was my impressions after one hours and about 20 battles with pack of ghouls.

 

[Perkel]

So it seems that armor works that way:

- light armor = increased stamina regeneration
- med = normal stamina
- high armor = decreased stamina reg

So i assume that specialization in spells will probably kind of require light armors where sword spec will be better in high armor.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

What AwesomeButton said (to lazy to quote only that bit).

Dont take this game seriously, its a aaa cinematic arpg lite with a nice atmos and good production values (although the CE statue apparently was made by tripped out druggies in an uzbekistan sweatshop).

 

[Merkwürdigliebe]

Apparently you can run hairworks with a minimal performance impact on AMD cards, if you set up a custom profile for the game in the driver. All you need to do is set tesselation to override application settings and then choose a desired level of detail.

Here is a comparison screen shot between different tesselation levels.
http://i.imgur.com/2wyxv90.jpg
8x seems to be the sweet spot performance and looks.

 

[cepheiden]

Unlimited energy ? So far i couldn't spam Queen or any other sign. Still it was my impressions after one hours and about 20 battles with pack of ghouls.

I even wrote it in caps... unlimited REGENERATING energy. The energy for the signs just keeps regenerating (quite fast actually) so all you have to do to win is evade until you can use the signs again for free dmg without risk.
Btw in case you didn't get the Dark Souls thing: They even had an actual weight system that influences how heavy or light your character feels. Not to mention they had a nice little mechanic like poise, something no other game so far featured. Poise actually made you feel the weight of attacks, as in your defense getting blown away if the attacks get too heavy. So you can't just block attacks as long as you want, compared to the Shitter 3 where you can just block over and over again without any drawbacks.

 

[Perkel]

What AwesomeButton said (to lazy to quote only that bit).

Dont take this game seriously, its a aaa cinematic arpg lite with a nice atmos and good production values (although the CE statue apparently was made by tripped out druggies in an uzbekistan sweatshop).

Doesn't work for me like that.
I don't have different sticks for different RPGs.
I am yet to finish game but so far it seems good.

Still some RPGs can be good in one thing and shit in other. Those things can outweight one another.
PST has shit combat and yet it is king of the hill in 'dex lists
DOS have generally shit combat balance but combat itself seems to be fun enough to be praised more than many other balanced RPGs.

My biggest worry for now is combat later in game. I hope it won't end up DPS = ALL but rather choose weapon for fight type of thing.

Apparently you can run hairworks with a minimal performance impact on AMD cards, if you set up a custom profile for the game in the driver. All you need to do is set tesselation to override application settings and then choose a desired level of detail.

Here is a comparison screen shot between different tesselation levels.
http://i.imgur.com/2wyxv90.jpg
8x seems to be the sweet spot performance and looks.

Interesting. gotta try that.

 

[Volrath]

This piece of shit game gets its own subforum? Fucking really???

 

[ZagorTeNej]

Not for a character like Geralt,it's just doesn't make any sense when you get one shoted by the same old ghoul,wolf,stray dog because he's 5 levels bigger than you.It's a stupid design for a pre determined character that is renowned as a famous fighter.
There has to be a better system out there that doesn't make you look like a fool when you go agaisnt a level 20 rabbit...

Cargo cult design, as Roguey would say.

 

[deranged]

Combat system. Biggest surprise.
...BLA BLA BLA...

...BLA BLA BLA...
Just spam signs, roll around and wait for your UNLIMITED REGENERATING ENERGY to replenish and spam more signs until enemies are dead.
...BLA BLA BLA...

Confirmed for trolling.

 

[Ulminati]

Confirmed for trolling.

Rolling and spamming signs works fine on hard. Stamina doesn't go down for rolling. (It just stops regenerating during the roll on higher difficulty). If you rolla short distance away from enemies, they'll wait a while before reengaging. So you can roll around for a bit, let stamina regen, then fire a sign. Then resume rolling. Or if there's just one enemy in lunging distance, you can mash fast attack. The hit animation will make them unable to retaliate and you can easily chain 4-5 hits in before the rolling resumes.

 

[Perkel]

Confirmed for trolling.

Rolling and spamming signs works fine on hard. Stamina doesn't go down for rolling. If you rolla short distance away from enemies, they'll wait a while before reengaging.

You should try that on highest def. If i roll away they will just fallow me and attack me when i stand up from roll.
So far dodge instead of roll is waaaaaay better way to not receive damage. Also it works well in group combat which was most surprising fact because if you remember TW2 combat there didn't work at all in groups. Nekkers on dark def would kill you in seconds if you were surrounded.

Still i didn't fight anything else yet (beside fist fight) so maybe that fight with ghouls was simply better due to being choreographed somewhat.

I even wrote it in caps... unlimited REGENERATING energy. The energy for the signs just keeps regenerating (quite fast actually) so all you have to do to win is evade until you can use the signs again for free dmg without risk.
Btw in case you didn't get the Dark Souls thing: They even had an actual weight system that influences how heavy or light your character feels. Not to mention they had a nice little mechanic like poise, something no other game so far featured. Poise actually made you feel the weight of attacks, as in your defense getting blown away if the attacks get too heavy. So you can't just block attacks as long as you want, compared to the Shitter 3 where you can just block over and over again without any drawbacks.

What is the problem with regenerating energy ? I mean DS has exactly the same system. I am yet to find if balance of it is fucked up but i couldn't spam queen like in TW2.

Yes i played DS in fact i played all DS games including Deamon's Souls and i know what you are talking about. I wasn't talking about weight system itself but about actuall movement. Only thing weight affects DS is character roll speed (with iframes) and stamina regen in Des2 it also handles roll distance but they decoupled iframes from weight and moved it to stat.

I was talking about weight of movement itself. Geralt feels weight to controll much more than DS. In DS you can literally spin in circle as fast as your hand can do it where here it is governed by animation i think.

Like i said best comparison here is Monster Hunter games. There are few differnces but overall it is similar system or should i say "similar weight".
I don't claim TW3 has better combat than DS or MH for now. Too little time spend with it.

MH combat also was BAD for me when i started to play it and with time it grew on me and i found it good. Different than DS but good in its own way. Not talking naturally about stats but animations system response etc.

 

[CommanderBradbury]

W3 and PoE seem similar to two students in the class, one being a wonder and the other a retard. If the retard ever says something right he gets all the praise as if he expanded Theory of Relativity, but if the genius ever does anything wrong, he gets disproportionately heavy criticism from the teacher

Sure, it's just that more Codexers than I would have expected seem to spend a lot of time playing with and defending retards while they seem to only enjoy shitting on the "genius." Actually I think PoE isn't a wonder or a genius, but just another kid in class who the teacher decided was a genius and then decides to shit all over when he can't perform to the unmerited expectations.

ITT several people saying with all seriousness that W3 is a better game and a better RPG than PoE. Are you kidding me? This is console action garbage masquerading as a great CRPG without a single doubt and pretty much represents every aspect of the decline, yet many are saying that it's superior to PoE. Dumbing down and streamlining CRPGs to appeal to casuals and console gamers has got to be somewhere near the top of the list of decline. If you have fun with console action garbage, that's perfectly fine. I play a lot of platformers and roguelikes when I'm not playing RPGs, but if anyone goes full retard and says that Spelunky is a better RPG than Wasteland 2 (obviously a more extreme example) please someone explain to them how retarded they are because they don't know what an RPG is. PoE may have disappointed the expectations of a lot of people for sure, but if you actually think that Witcher 3 trash is a better RPG, then you should just sell your PC and put the money in your fund for when the next round of consoles get released, you'll need them to properly play all the future AAA console releases that you think are quality RPGs.

 

[Immortal]

Unofficial Official Harbingers of the Decline List:

Nithrakis
kain30
Immortal
dragonul09
Sodafish
Anthedon
Echo Mirage
Kem0sabe
Carrion
Matt7895
Nyast
Markman
Pegultagol
Mortmal
Grimlorn
Turisas
Ismaul
Comrade Goby
Deuce Traveler
Morality Games
MasPingon
Cromwell
RK47
FreeKaner
pippin
bonescraper
Maculo
Sothpaw
Talby
Darth Slaughter
Daemongar
RPGMaster
made
Ivan
ERYFKRAD
fizzelopeguss
Jools
cvv
abnaxus
WhiskeyWolf
Perkel
odrzut
Ultra
MicoSelva
Starwars
deranged
Multidirectional
hivemind
flushfire
AwesomeButton
Cyberarmy
Kruno
DosBuster
Quatlo
WhiteGuts
Ovplain
Kaldurenik
Cadmus
Killzig
Hegel
Alienman
Doktor Best
PhantasmaNL
undecaf
Clockwork Knight
Trodat
Commissar Draco
Beggar
D_X
Keshik
Havoc
Idiott
Obsequious Approbation
Trash
Zed
meanwhileInPoland
Branm
Dormir Con Las Arañas
Scrooge
krist2
SophosTheWise
Suchy

And others I'm sure I missed.

You have all been summoned here to bear witness to the atrocities you heap upon the once glorious and prestigious e-magazine that is RPG Codex. Your combined efforts and love of popamole decline have made Tit Witcher 3 more anticipated, played, and talked about game then any of the recent incline old school titles that have been coming out in the last few years.

DarkUnderlord how did it come to this? Traitors. All of them.
-snip-

 

[ERYFKRAD]

And yet by his actions, Metro has given more attention to the game than his Harbingers of Decline( which doesn't even include Haba, and is therefore invalid).

 

[AwesomeButton]

W3 and PoE seem similar to two students in the class, one being a wonder and the other a retard. If the retard ever says something right he gets all the praise as if he expanded Theory of Relativity, but if the genius ever does anything wrong, he gets disproportionately heavy criticism from the teacher

Sure, it's just that more Codexers than I would have expected seem to spend a lot of time playing with and defending retards while they seem to only enjoy shitting on the "genius." Actually I think PoE isn't a wonder or a genius, but just another kid in class who the teacher decided was a genius and then decides to shit all over when he can't perform to the unmerited expectations.

ITT several people saying with all seriousness that W3 is a better game and a better RPG than PoE. Are you kidding me? This is console action garbage masquerading as a great CRPG without a single doubt and pretty much represents every aspect of the decline, yet many are saying that it's superior to PoE. Dumbing down and streamlining CRPGs to appeal to casuals and console gamers has got to be somewhere near the top of the list of decline. If you have fun with console action garbage, that's perfectly fine. I play a lot of platformers and roguelikes when I'm not playing RPGs, but if anyone goes full retard and says that Spelunky is a better RPG than Wasteland 2 (obviously a more extreme example) please someone explain to them how retarded they are because they don't know what an RPG is. PoE may have disappointed the expectations of a lot of people for sure, but if you actually think that Witcher 3 trash is a better RPG, then you should just sell your PC and put the money in your fund for when the next round of consoles get released, you'll need them to properly play all the future AAA console releases that you think are quality RPGs.

You may be right expectations were too high for PoE, but it was the devs who created them, and it was a conscious choice on their part. When your pitch consists of namedropping to such an extent, players canbe forgiven to think you'll produce something on par with the namedropped classics.

Nah, I wouldn't try to compare them as RPGs because I'm finding it very difficult to call Witcher 3 an RPG

 

[Hegel]

Sure, it's just that more Codexers than I would have expected seem to spend a lot of time playing with and defending retards while they seem to only enjoy shitting on the "genius." Actually I think PoE isn't a wonder or a genius, but just another kid in class who the teacher decided was a genius and then decides to shit all over when he can't perform to the unmerited expectations.

ITT several people saying with all seriousness that W3 is a better game and a better RPG than PoE. Are you kidding me? This is console action garbage masquerading as a great CRPG without a single doubt and pretty much represents every aspect of the decline, yet many are saying that it's superior to PoE. Dumbing down and streamlining CRPGs to appeal to casuals and console gamers has got to be somewhere near the top of the list of decline. If you have fun with console action garbage, that's perfectly fine. I play a lot of platformers and roguelikes when I'm not playing RPGs, but if anyone goes full retard and says that Spelunky is a better RPG than Wasteland 2 (obviously a more extreme example) please someone explain to them how retarded they are because they don't know what an RPG is. PoE may have disappointed the expectations of a lot of people for sure, but if you actually think that Witcher 3 trash is a better RPG, then you should just sell your PC and put the money in your fund for when the next round of consoles get released, you'll need them to properly play all the future AAA console releases that you think are quality RPGs.

Witcher 3 is miles ahead of Kill the Xaurip by virtue of its OST and VA alone. Heck, it's a better game under any department.

 

[Ulminati]

Still i didn't fight anything else yet (beside fist fight) so maybe that fight with ghouls was simply better due to being choreographed somewhat.

Played 1 fight. Knows all about the combat mechanics. 'k.