The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[The Last Blackguard]

Reposting my reply to ScrotumBroth that I deleted last week. I didn't want to start another discussion about the game's art design, but it's relevant to toro's assessment of Boyarsky:

While you could point at certain elements in those games that are innovative, I think it's a stretch to say that's what Tim and Leonard are "known for". They're known primarily for 1) a certain tone and feel (including humor, aspects of art design, etc) and 2) just plain good roleplaying and C&C. "Innovation" isn't crucial to those things.

Quoting this for everyone to update their .txt

What's your angle - you think the game will fail at those things too and I'll have egg on my face? Sure, it might.

I mean a lot of people have hated the game's art style since day one. Boyarsky spent a decade working on Diablo, really liked BioShock & Dishonored and wanted to make a game that looked similar even though some hardcore gamers had already had their fill of that look. You can fault him for being sentimental and out of touch.

Dishonored nailed that artstyle. This game's faces look a lot more wonky than that.

I think my issue with the game's art is that they went for the raygun gothic aesthetic, but didn't do enough to make it look more interesting than if you were to come up with a generic parody of a space opera from some other thing.

Bioshock just kinda looked...normal, but it still appeared a lot more atmospheric.

 

[fantadomat]

I am most certain that Boyarsky&Cain are going to say no to $200 million from Microsoft to make TOW2, and they will leave Obsidian to start making prestigious isometric RPGs with pixelated graphics.

This is definitely a thing that is going to happen.

You sound like a butthurt former owner that got kicked out just before all the owners got the big money.

 

[Quillon]

Dishonored nailed that artstyle. This game's faces look a lot more wonky than that.

"This game's faces" don't even try to be stylistic/cartoony like Dishonored. Thankfully.

In fact there is nothing cartoony here, everything is pretty realistic, in proportion looking unlike Dishonered/Bioshock/Borderlands which all have cartoony aspects with cellshading to weird body proportions to cartoony faces.

 

[Pegultagol]

Does anyone know if obtrusive companion special cutscene trigger can be disabled?

From what I hear about Cainarsky hoping the IP continue producing content for Obsidian, the nature of the game is set up to be easily implemented. One DLC, one planet, one story, ad nauseum. Or there can be some overarching story that has a serial consequence at the end of 'season'. I can now imagine the Disco-like 'narrative' DLC, 'first contact' DLC, terraforming adventure DLC, space station DLC, black hole/negative world/parallel universe DLC, Pillar of Eternity crossover DLC, the universe is the limit...

All before the release of Starfield.

 

[ScrotumBroth]

While you could point at certain elements in those games that are innovative, I think it's a stretch to say that's what Tim and Leonard are "known for". They're known primarily for 1) a certain tone and feel (including humor, aspects of art design, etc) and 2) just plain good roleplaying and C&C. "Innovation" isn't crucial to those things.

Quoting this for everyone to update their .txt

What's your angle - you think the game will fail at those things too and I'll have egg on my face? Sure, it might.

I just thought it preposterous to say Cainarsky are not know for innovation. From Fallout 1, to Arcanum to VTMB they were setting new standards and expanding new horizons. You could say they were the only original concept and content creators at Black Isle, if we count out Bioware as a completely separate entity (which they were).

This is not about who is right or wrong, it's not a personal attack on you, it's about yet another (seemingly) disappointment in a long stream of disappointment from the legends of our youth. I want The Outter Worlds to blow my mind like their games of old did, but it doesn't look like it will. At all. They were supposed to waltz in and show Sawyer and Fargo how it's done. I really wanted them to do that.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

They were supposed to waltz in and show Sawyer

Why they need to show to Daddy J.Sawyer how it's done when Mister Balance already made/directed the best/most balanced RPG of last decade FNV ? Even if you guys hate him , he's a legend in my heart.

 

[ScrotumBroth]

I was referring to the Kickstarter diarrhea slideshow in the recent years.

 

[Quillon]

I was referring to the Kickstarter diarrhea slideshow in the recent years.

That diarrhea caused immeasurable butthurt on codex, now we're mostly dealing with that butthurt in a completely unrelated game and we'll be dealing with it in years to come

 

[the mole]

If you want to shipost about Disco , go to that thread. This thread already has enough shitposters of it's own.

I already did fag, they are OK with being defrauded on a 20 hour game promised as 60 hours we already discussed that

 

[the mole]

Seriously guys, put the mole on ignore unless you are one of those tough guy purists who likes scrolling past hours of a dude posting the one thought in his one brain cell over and over. I just used Show Ignored Content for a sec and I'm really not missing anything.

Asshurt that I'm right, you're one of the suckers that was defrauded in the disco thread, and that's fine, just realize you were swindled with the promise of up to 90 hours and freedom of choice

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Day one purchase!

Wait... *checks for Steam listing...*

Day one torrent!

 

[the mole]

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'": The directors of The Outer Worlds discuss its development

Tim and Leo are taking the piss.

Fallout is unrepeatable. The only thing you can copy are the design principles but even if you copy those without a brilliant execution you still got shit.

I don't think they will remain with Obsidian after ToW is released.

Fallout isn't complicated to repeat, it's fine that it had an impact on you but it isnt like it's impossible to recreate the core systems behind it in a different setting

 

[RegionalHobo]

you know usually i just can t do the '' evil '' playtrough first because the quality of such choices most of the time is so much worse/not developed in rpgs

a curious effect of having very little hype for this title is that i'll do it first this time. will go for all the cartoony evil choices and see where i'll end up

 

[the mole]

I usually go good, protecting the world from fraud and villainy is my core purpose in life

But since I can kill anyone I can see myself just wholesale slaughtering for loot

 

[Zombra]

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'"
Tim and Leo are taking the piss.
Fallout is unrepeatable. The only thing you can copy are the design principles

What? They're not talking about making a 1:1 copy of Fallout. They're talking about recapturing the experience of making a great game.

Capturing the experience of making a great game is also not something you can repeat because *spoiler alert* nobody knows during development if the game will be really great or not. Except Kojima.

That's why the word "hope" was used instead of "guarantee". Look them up; you might learn something.

Just ignore me. Your list is calling me.

You'll be disappointed to learn I don't ignore people just for disagreeing with me, or even for being dicks. It takes a special level of dull, persistent worthlessness that's somehow always just beyond your reach. I'm sure you're very flattered.

 

[Terenty]

I usually go good, protecting the world from fraud and villainy is my core purpose in life

But since I can kill anyone I can see myself just wholesale slaughtering for loot

Have you heard about Disco Elysium? I recommend playing it, you will forget about Outer World

 

[Butter]

Have you heard about Disco Elysium? I recommend playing it, you will forget about Outer World

I tried that. It didn't take. I'm going to try bashing my head into the wall next.

 

[The_Mask]

Asshurt that I'm right, you're one of the suckers that was defrauded in the disco thread, and that's fine, just realize you were swindled with the promise of up to 90 hours and freedom of choice

You are becoming aggresively stupid.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

You are aggresively stupid.

Fixed.

 

[jf8350143]

How long till the review embargo lift?

 

[zerosum]

3 days according to metacritic

 

[Duraframe300]

How long till the review embargo lift?

6 a.m. PST

So in around 10 hours.

 

[Duraframe300]

you know usually i just can t do the '' evil '' playtrough first because the quality of such choices most of the time is so much worse/not developed in rpgs

a curious effect of having very little hype for this title is that i'll do it first this time. will go for all the cartoony evil choices and see where i'll end up

You can double cross whoever you side with, so make sure to look out for that as well.

 

[Quillon]

not a very scientific vid as I hoped

 

[Skdursh]

"I said to the team, 'I hope this becomes your Fallout'": The directors of The Outer Worlds discuss its development

Tim and Leo are taking the piss.

Fallout is unrepeatable. The only thing you can copy are the design principles but even if you copy those without a brilliant execution you still got shit.

I don't think they will remain with Obsidian after ToW is released.

Fallout isn't complicated to repeat, it's fine that it had an impact on you but it isnt like it's impossible to recreate the core systems behind it in a different setting

As a rule I am explicitly against censorship and absolutely for freedom of speech, but I also believe it should be mandatory to abort retarded people before birth and keep the ones that are around now far away from civilization and even father away from the internet, so... you know... go on, shoo.