KickStarter System Shock 1 Remake by Nightdive Studios

[Grampy_Bone]

For those who don't realize, your objective list is right here:

 

[randir14]

Nightdive wants to make more System Shock games. One idea they have is an Xcom-style prequel where you play Citadel crew members fighting Shodan's takeover of the station.

https://www.techradar.com/news/syst...-make-an-xcom-like-strategy-in-the-same-world

 

[Lemming42]

It's one of the weirdest games I can think of to try and turn into a franchise - even some of the SS2 fans in this thread seemed to agree that, whatever strengths SS2 might have as a standalone game, being a good sequel to SS1 isn't one of them.

The entire story of System Shock starts and ends in SS1, there isn't any way I can see to make a sequel or prequel or spinoff that makes any amount of sense and doesn't suck balls from a writing standpoint. You can't bring SHODAN back without enormously cheapening it (especially if you're a hack like Levine who writes a totally different, profoundly uninteresting character and just calls it SHODAN).

I guess Nightdive might be cognisant of that if they want a prequel set inside the story of SS1, but who wants to play as some doomed losers who are necessarily going to fail at their mission, and whose story we already know? Strange idea.

 

[SharkClub]

I guess Nightdive might be cognisant of that if they want a prequel set inside the story of SS1, but who wants to play as some doomed losers who are necessarily going to fail at their mission, and whose story we already know? Strange idea.

Well, doesn't it say somewhere in SS1 (or maybe that was only in the remake, I just played both back to back) that 98% of the lifepods on citadel station have already been launched? It's not strictly necessary that whatever laptopguy squad manager or group of survivors you play as during an interquel between the intro and gameplay of System Shock 1 are ones that were killed.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

For those who don't realize, your objective list is right here:

Either this level division is off, or the outside view doesn't match where the levels are.

When I look out the windows in Medical, I should be looking at the bottom of those lower pylons. Instead I'm seeing the top of them, and the groves above me, like I was looking out the window of Maintenance/Storage.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

That's one thing I liked about Prey, flying around outside the station was neat.

 

[Eisen]

That's one thing I liked about Prey, flying around outside the station was neat.

Cool idea but i found it boring

 

[prengle]

I guess Nightdive might be cognisant of that if they want a prequel set inside the story of SS1, but who wants to play as some doomed losers who are necessarily going to fail at their mission, and whose story we already know? Strange idea.

stephen kick mentioned that he wanted there to be a fucking telltale game set before system shock 1 in this article:

According to Kick, potential publishers at the time included Starbreeze Entertainment (the publisher originally slated to release Otherside Entertainment's System Shock 3) and Telltale Games, who shut down unexpectedly just weeks after talks began.

"That felt like a gut punch," Kick tells Time Extension, "Because we really loved the people over there and we loved the games that we did and there was some talk about, ‘Oh, if we do System Shock with you guys, maybe you can do an adventure game that explores what happens before SHODAN took over.’ So, there were a lot of interesting, collaborative possibilities in that instance as well. But yeah, we spent months just travelling to different studios and pitching the game that we had, and for lack of a better word, they all said ‘No’."

looking forward to the remake selling enough copies so we can get a WACKY anime shodan dating sim spinoff in another 7 years from now

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Nightdive wants to make more System Shock games. One idea they have is an Xcom-style prequel where you play Citadel crew members fighting Shodan's takeover of the station.

https://www.techradar.com/news/syst...-make-an-xcom-like-strategy-in-the-same-world

I think I should pitch my Doom RPG-style spin-off again because even a scenario like 'what if the hacker died in his sleep and a reprogrammed cyborg took his place' sounds less stupid than this.

 

[Tweed]

Gonna milk this fucker straight into the ground.

 

[JDR13]

I thought the IP was owned by Tencent now anyways. Or do they just own the rights to "System Shock 3"?

 

[KIss My Ass]

Gonna milk this fucker straight into the ground.

I called it.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that the tactical game concept sounds p cool. The game, if it ever got done, wouldn't be, of course.

Bit of a shame, really, same as with that nignog league or whatever from the shadowrun devs. These people can stumble on a decent idea from time to time (probably just copy it from somewhere), but you just know that the skill to shape a good idea into a good game ain't there.

 

[Fedora Master]

That's one thing I liked about Prey, flying around outside the station was neat.

The best thing about Prey was the level traversal fuckery.

Oh wait, you're talking about the fake Prey lol

 

[Hobo Elf]

Finished the remake. Think they did an alright job, although the game didn't need recycling as a mechanic and the lack of meaningful music hurts the fun factor for me.

 

[Infinitron]

Or do they just own the rights to "System Shock 3"?

They have the rights to any numbered sequels, it seems: https://www.videogameschronicle.com...ys-its-now-up-to-tencent-if-sequels-get-made/

 

[Nifft Batuff]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/482400/discussions/0/3836550304890088192/

Too tired of wandering through the maze

I'm a kind of a guy who appreciate winding tunnels and twisting maps, such as Soul series and The Surge, but this is beyond my tolerance.
The most blatant flaw on this design is the lack of clear objective.
You have no idea what to do, or look for. And All the map being circular does not help the matters.

If you need the help of youtube to find your, not secrets nor side mission, but main objective, I think this game is very bad with level design.

This is the human disaster that happen after almost 30 years of bad gaming.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

One detail I noticed: This robot spawns into the hallway to the right of the elevator in Reactor after you've fired the Mining Laser.

Note the ID-text at the top. When looted, I got a single round for the Railgun.

The original did not have Sec-3 robots, and the manual for the remake doesn't mention them either.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Anyway, I restarted my playthrough to incorporate some mods. Much-needed mods, as it turns out.

I also adjusted the visual settings, turning them up slowly as the older hardware might suffer a meltdown.

One of the mods removes a red tint that's prevalent in the lighting, so Citadel station looks proper dark now. I actually have to use the head lantern now.

The recycler-related mods are a Godsend. Instead of recycling a whole batch that nets me around 4-6 credits, I'm getting ~30 credits per batch.

 

[Average Manatee]

That's one thing I liked about Prey, flying around outside the station was neat.

Cool idea but i found it boring

It ended up being a checkbox on a list of features rather than something important to the gameplay. The station needed a kind of Mooncrash-esque RNG/Roguelike option where navigation wasn't so simple.

 

[Luka-boy]

looking forward to the remake selling enough copies so we can get a WACKY anime shodan dating sim spinoff in another 7 years from now

"Parody" dating sims are some of the most successful spin-offs nowadays, so I wouldn't even be shocked (heh).

Spoiler

I would buy it for a dollar.

 

[randir14]

Patch released
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/482400/view/3680050666250671871

CITADEL STATION SYSTEMS UPDATED - PATCH 1.0
ATTENTION ALL HACKERS!
Citadel Station Systems got
UPDATED
with many fixes aimed at enhancing your experience within its digital domain.

We hope these improvements will make a smoother and more seamless journey throughout the Station, but don't forget -
SHODAN
is always watching!

• Fixed a crash that could occur when entering Flight Deck with older DX11 versions.
• Fixed a crash that could occur when exiting Maintenance Cyberspace.
• Fixed a crash that could occur when playing Grove Chess.
• Fixed Ragdolls to not fall into place when loading into levels or saves
  [Players will have to save at least once to see it take effect after downloading this patch]
• Improved grenade rolling behavior when thrown.
• Improved ragdoll behavior on Human Corpse attached to Cortex Reaver.
• Fix for weapons with installed Modkits not always showing their attachments properly.
• Fix Magnum laser sight FX not working properly when loading a save with it enabled.
• Fix elevator music not stopping when the player dies in an elevator and respawns on another level.
• Fix for Audio Log Portrait disappearing in certain cases.
• Fix for game pausing unexpectedly after loading a game.
• Fix equipment soft-lock that could occur when dying while arming an explosive.
• Fix equipment soft-lock when saving and loading while focusing on a puzzle.
• Credit Machines will dispense Tri-Credits when a Finance Chip is used on them.
• Broadcast Monitors can now be shattered when attacked.
• Minipistol Burst-Fire Modkit shoots three rounds instead of two, and can be toggled on/off.
• Bio-Tanks that are destroyed will stop generating hazards after a short duration.
• Items can be bound to the hotbar by pressing a hotbar hotkey while mousing over the item.
• Balance tweaks to Maintenance Cyberspace Level
• Removed duplicate Audio Log from Flight Deck
• Fixed Softlock in Research Level by making Elevator Lobby doors and Circuit Breaker Room door always open if that Quadrant has power disabled.
• Fixed Softlock in Reactor when pulling the Reactor Self-Destruct Lever and reloading a save
• Improved Realspace Enemy AI
• Improved Cyberspace Enemy AI
• Improved Magnum Weapon laser dot FX
• Improved Mag-Pulse Weapon impact vortex FX
• Add Headbob Option to Accessibility Settings
• Added Autosave after using Surgery Machine on every Difficulty
• Fix for Surgery Machine getting stuck in a permanent busy state
• Fix for Energy Shield screen FX not restoring after loading a save
• Fix for pressing Back in the Media Reader to not close entire MFD
• Corrected the Escape Pod Status in MFD Status Screen when triggering Self Destruct sequence

Thanks to all Hackers providing constant feedback through forum threads or direct reports. Your unwavering support and engagement have been invaluable in shaping the ongoing development of Citadel Station Systems.

 

[JDR13]

I also adjusted the visual settings, turning them up slowly as the older hardware might suffer a meltdown.

My God, what kind of potato are you playing this on?

The recycler-related mods are a Godsend. Instead of recycling a whole batch that nets me around 4-6 credits, I'm getting ~30 credits per batch.

Is that because you're recylcing more with each batch or because it's increasing the payout for the same amount?

 

[Child of Malkav]

How do you turn off the elevator music?

 

[Lyric Suite]

To be honest i've never been a fan of this techno shit.

I actually played SS2 and even Half Life without music because i found it too intrusive and obnoxious. Don't remember much from System Shock 1, played it around the same time i played Doom which feels like millions of years ago i should revisit it one of this days.