South Park: The Stick of Truth (PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION)

[Cyberarmy]

Well, they forced it on M&M XL, I hardly call it first party.

It is because although a third party contractor made the game, the project was started within Ubisoft. Same for all of their HOMM games and other M&M spinoffs.

Yeah probably this. They looted this game from THQs corpse.

 

[Karm Veland Morelake]

Is the game 2d side scroller?

 

[Duraframe300]

Steam forums are hilarious

Wait for reviews before ordering.
I understand some of you must be hype about this game after they seen few clips online with characters saying jokes.. but when it comes to the game itself... lets just say it might not be what you think it is..

its your money but dont cry game is this and that after you paypal 60$ to hear few jokes.

just trying to be helpeful.

He goes on for three pages like that telling people what a grave mistake they are going to make.

 

[Roguey]

Is the game 2d side scroller?

No, it plays like Paper Mario, only grosser.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Which in and of itself is awesome.

 

[Duraframe300]

Thank god there are reasonable people on Steam

Grand Theft Auto V is $60 this flash game should not be
Prices should be determined by their production values. Obviously some good work was put into this and most likely a fair amount of money. But this isnt some risky new idea, this is ♥♥♥♥ing south park. It will sell, it will spell in boat loads. Gigantic meticulously detailed games like GTA V or Skyrim cost $60 for a reason. Because they have enough quality and content put into them to warrent their price. To be honest, this game looks mediocre, but for all I know it could be good. At best a game based on south park woould be "pretty good" because the type of comedy south park puts out is pretty good. But even if it rises above pretty good and actually becomes good I can guarentee it wont get any better than that. Even if it supasses all predetermined expectations and becomes a modern gaming masterpeice, you can just look at this game and determine that it doesnt have the graphical fidelity or production values put into it to warrant that high price point. Anyone who buys this at launch is being milked, plain and simple.

Tell me why im wrong, because I think im being pretty ♥♥♥♥ing reasonable here.

What?

Don't you see how reasonable he is?

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Would be great if these people could be killed for being so fucking stupid.

There was a guy on Joystiq saying Obsidian were a "terribad developer", can't believe so many companies get away with releasing buggy (and shit) games, but when Obsidian release buggy but good games (KOTOR 2, New Vegas) they are the worst developer going.

 

[pakoito]

Prodacshon valuus. Automatic 7+ in any review site. We are talking about the same people putting Flappy Bird in daily 5 digits revenue, and making Greenlight into a shit-shoveling business.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=224225835
Posted: 4 Feb @ 12:51am
Greenlit: 5 Feb @ 9:19pm

 

[Duraframe300]

Would be great if these people could be killed for being so fucking stupid.

I love the retarded arguments that come along with it

What the ♥♥♥♥ does production values imply if not costs? Thats literally all it means. I dont care if you think GTA V is bad or not, thats not what the post is about. I couldnt give less of a ♥♥♥♥ if SR4 is a more fun game. Im talking about what the game costs to make compared to what we play. GTA V FACTUALLY costs alot to make. And the world is FACTUALLY detailed. Whether or not you think its good detail or not, I dont give a ♥♥♥♥. Nobody who has commented here (including you) understand the point im making. And you saying that gta is ♥♥♥♥ has nothing to ♥♥♥♥ing do with my post. yeah, in my post I mention their quaility. because in my opinion it is quality. But the core point im making is that high production values equals high prices. Lower production values = lower prices.

The definition of production: the action of making or manufacturing from components or raw materials, or the process of being so manufactured.

The definition of values: the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.

Synonyms to Value: worth, usefulness, advantage, benefit, gain, PROFIT, good, help, merit,

How can this mean anything other than production costs!?

game should be judged off of its quality. Price should be judged off production values. Thats what I mean and somehow you twisted and turned it into some weird idea that isnt mine

There are others as well that say the game should be $10 less compared to consoles because of the approval process console games go through.



...

Let me repeat that.
QUALITY OR YOUR ENJOYMENT DOESN'T MEAN SHIT.

It's all about production costs which in no way influence the quality of the game that should determine the price point YOUR willing to pay for a product.




Those people are happy to pay for a publishers marketing campaign.

 

[Roguey]

PC games used to be $50 when their console equivalents were $60 but then Blizzard had to go and charge $60 for Starcraft 2 and sell millions, proving it was a cost a lot of them were willing to pay.

 

[Infinitron]

PC games used to be $50 when their console equivalents were $60 but then Blizzard had to go and charge $60 for Starcraft 2 and sell millions, proving it was a cost a lot of them were willing to pay.

The $60 price point for PC games didn't start with Starcraft 2.

 

[Roguey]

The $60 price point for PC games didn't start with Starcraft 2.

That's the first one I remember. Can you name something that happened earlier? Cause I remember paying $50 for New Vegas and anything released before then.

 

[Infinitron]

The $60 price point for PC games didn't start with Starcraft 2.

That's the first one I remember. Can you name something that happened earlier? Cause I remember paying $50 for New Vegas and anything released before then.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/19/modern-warfare-2-bringing-60-price-tag-to-pc-games/

 

[Roguey]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/19/modern-warfare-2-bringing-60-price-tag-to-pc-games/

Oh, I don't pay attention to CoD at all.

I guess it's more accurate to say that Activision was the first to get the ball rolling.

 

[St. Toxic]

How is this a PC game?

 

[Duraframe300]

How is this a PC game?

It's on steam



Seriously though I'd like to see screenshots of the pc version. I asked a few months ago after seeing the gameplay video how polished the pc controls were and got this as answer

PC controls has been a heavy focus for testing and functionality on this project. Our PC only testers (which we have quite a few) have worked hand in hand with the UI artists, designers, and programmers on this project to make it feel the way it should. I can say that the controls and interaction with the user interface don't feel forced.

 

[Athelas]

Sounds like an elaborate way of saying it won't support mouse control.

 

[Duraframe300]

Sounds like an elaborate way of saying it won't support mouse control.

I... What?

It's vague, but how did you get no mouse out of that?

 

[hiver]

Of course ! fuck... i never payed more attention to this but... its so obvious!
Elementary - even.

Sometimes you have to wonder what the fuck are internal QA and tester teams doing in those companies, right?
How is it possible that so many games go out with so many obvious bugs and stupid schemes and gameplay and content? While all those companies have QA teams and testers and whatnot...


- I just had a vision of that process, with various QA people and testers desperately trying to brown-nose their way up the ladder and become those fancy game devs...
oh, god...

:facepalm:

 

[St. Toxic]

It's vague, but how did you get no mouse out of that?

They're obv. not forcing the use of a mousebased control-scheme, and since the way it should feel is like an old-skool jrpg you can expect controls similar to a snes-emulator.

 

[Turisas]

They're obv. not forcing the use of a mousebased control-scheme, and since the way it should feel is like an old-skool jrpg you can expect controls similar to a snes-emulator.

But my SNES emulator had mouse support...

 

[DragoFireheart]

The $60 price point for PC games didn't start with Starcraft 2.

That's the first one I remember. Can you name something that happened earlier? Cause I remember paying $50 for New Vegas and anything released before then.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/19/modern-warfare-2-bringing-60-price-tag-to-pc-games/

Ports don't count.

 

[Duraframe300]

They're obv. not forcing the use of a mousebased control-scheme, and since the way it should feel is like an old-skool jrpg you can expect controls similar to a snes-emulator.

And that dev was never talking about this.

Sorry I probably wasn't clear enough

I asked a few months ago after seeing the gameplay video how polished the pc controls were and got this as answer

1. I saw the gameplay video

2. I ranted about how or if they will pay any attention to the pc controls.

3. I got that answer

This wasn't some early official statement that they are going to design the game for PC's or whateverthefuck. If anything this is a positive indication that they put some thought into the pc controls. Compare to Dungeon Siege III where I asked the same question and they said that the pc controls are the last thing they are working on/finishing up.

Anyway, I'll make a thread on the Obsidian forums asking.

 

[St. Toxic]

But my SNES emulator had mouse support...

You obv. emulated snes-games way after it stopped being cool.

 

[Infinitron]

The $60 price point for PC games didn't start with Starcraft 2.

That's the first one I remember. Can you name something that happened earlier? Cause I remember paying $50 for New Vegas and anything released before then.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/19/modern-warfare-2-bringing-60-price-tag-to-pc-games/

Ports don't count.

This thread is about a port