South Park: The Stick of Truth (PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION)

[Broseph]

Contrary to Pale Basement Virgin Matt MacLean's claims that they weren't making a "push a button and watch something funny happen" game, posters at Something Awful are claiming that it's incredibly easy to break and create a character who can destroy all bosses in just a couple of turns (also health and energy regenerate after every battle so there's no reason not to go all out every time). The producer over there is confirming it and saying it's better to pretend to be bad so you can see all the bosses' funny attacks.

Once again it looks like everyone at Obsidian who isn't Joshua Eric Sawyer is completely worthless when it comes to gameplay, and that includes Tim Cain-and-unable, who also worked on SP's combat. Nathaniel Chapman was all right and Josh-approved but he's gone.

Don't think anyone will be playing this for the challenge.

 

[Infinitron]

Contrary to Pale Basement Virgin Matt MacLean's claims that they weren't making a "push a button and watch something funny happen" game, posters at Something Awful are claiming that it's incredibly easy to break and create a character who can destroy all bosses in just a couple of turns (also health and energy regenerate after every battle so there's no reason not to go all out every time). The producer over there is confirming it and saying it's better to pretend to be bad so you can see all the bosses' funny attacks.

Once again it looks like everyone at Obsidian who isn't Joshua Eric Sawyer is completely worthless when it comes to gameplay, and that includes Tim Cain-and-unable, who also worked on SP's combat. Nathaniel Chapman was all right and Josh-approved but he's gone.

And here's what they're actually saying: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...erid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=30#post426459308

 

[Roguey]

Don't think anyone will be playing this for the challenge.

Honestly, I think it's really sad that RPGs essentially get a pass on having fundamentally junk core gameplay. And yes, I do consider combat to be a core gameplay element of most RPGs.

 

[Rivmusique]

The producer over there is confirming it and saying it's better to pretend to be bad so you can see all the bosses' funny attacks.

They should include that in the manual/tutorial.

 

[Infinitron]

The first quote in that image is from this:

So, apparently quick battles are part of the Paper Mario "core gameplay".

 

[Xor]

Suddenly...

 

[imweasel]

Suddenly...

Just noticed that myself. Looks like they bumped up the release from about noon to about midnight (US time).



Good thing too, it is gettting so hard to resist the damn twitch streams.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer

you're from neogaf aren't you

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

Ya know, whatever excitement I had is quickly wearing off. Think I'll wait for it to be ~20 bucks before I give it a shot.

 

[Tribal Sarah]

What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer

you're from neogaf aren't you

lol. why would i be butthurt because you're paying $60 for a 15hr rpg?

 

[Decado]

What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer

you're from neogaf aren't you

lol. why would i be butthurt because you're paying $60 for a 15hr rpg?

Where did you get 15 hours from?

 

[Tribal Sarah]

What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer

you're from neogaf aren't you

lol. why would i be butthurt because you're paying $60 for a 15hr rpg?

Where did you get 15 hours from?

From people who have played it. They say it's around 15-17 hours, including the side quests. The length of it leaked a few days ago and the neogaf marketing department immediately sprang into action with classics like, " What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer?" and my personal favourite, "Buy the game, support the developers, support Ubisoft, so they can give us more quality content filled experiences in the future." rofl

 

[evdk]

and my personal favourite, "Buy the game, support the developers, support Ubisoft, so they can give us more quality content filled experiences in the future." rofl

Ah, the good old "Buy FO: POS to finance Jefferson Van Buren!" gambit.

 

[Menckenstein]

END OF OBSIDIAN DANCE PARTY, SEE YA IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE FEARGUS YOU FAT PIECE OF SHIT, MCA YOU TERRIBLE HACK FARTJOKE FAGGOT AND JOSH YOU'RE JUST COLLATERAL DAMAGE BUT YOU ARE OVERRATED SHIT ANYWAY, SORRY YOU FUCKIN HIPSTER DOG COOTER.

 

[Decado]

What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer

you're from neogaf aren't you

lol. why would i be butthurt because you're paying $60 for a 15hr rpg?

Where did you get 15 hours from?

From people who have played it. They say it's around 15-17 hours, including the side quests. The length of it leaked a few days ago and the neogaf marketing department immediately sprang into action with classics like, " What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer?" and my personal favourite, "Buy the game, support the developers, support Ubisoft, so they can give us more quality content filled experiences in the future." rofl

Well I refuse to visit that dumb joint so I will take your word for it. I haven't been following this game at all until I saw some gameplay a few days ago, and it looks alright. I can't say, though, that shelling out $60 for 15 hours is automatically a bad deal. I mean, compared to what's on the video game market right now -- not including RPGs -- 15 hours seems pretty average for length, or even above average, especially for console games. Consider all of those shitty military FPS games, shit like Bioshock Infinite, etc. For an RPG 15 hours is short, I will agree, but this is not really being marketed as an RPG, at least not from where I'm sitting.

The quality of the game play is much more important than the length, in my opinion. Up to a certain point, obviously.

 

[Drakron]

Apparently it will be 10 hours long in the German version.

 

[Jaesun]

Oh that reminds me, I need to pre-load this...

 

[Duraframe300]

What if they added thirty hours of grinding and fetch quests, would that make the price fairer

you're from neogaf aren't you

lol. why would i be butthurt because you're paying $60 for a 15hr rpg?

You are. Otherwise you wouldn't be spending time here complaining about it. Also 15 hours is decent for a comedy rpg if you consider pacing.

Bethesda games aren't automatically the highpoint of the gerne, because they are 10 times as long than let's say Fallout 1.