South Park: The Stick of Truth (PRE-RELEASE DISCUSSION)

[Humanity has risen!]

It is quite telling when people begin to describe a TV show where a giant feces is displayed as brilliant for doing so. Doubly so when those same people say it entitles the artists regularly producing such horrors to dictate everyone else how they should behave.

 

[Turisas]

I haven't seen it since the mid-2000s but I remember South Park could get very annoyingly preachy. Usually via speech in the last few minutes of an episode.

They did away with that years ago.

 

[Kem0sabe]

So excited to play this. South Park is still one of my favorite shows after all these years, and an RPG in that universe, even if made with a controller in mind, is a day one purchase.

 

[Lyric Suite]

South Park went to shit after season nine. Any evaluation of the show that doesn't take this fact into consideration is null.

That said, their humor was always an acquired taste, much like the Codex is an acquired taste. Even at their most vulgar and crass, there was still a sense that everything was done in a tongue-in-cheek manner and you could almost feel the writers winking at you. South Park also gets credit for being the only show in existence that was absolutely politically neutral, if not slightly on the right side of things.

Then, after season nine, everything became serious business and you can just see that they have been trying too hard ever since. I noticed the difference right away when the vulgarity and "shock" value started to actually grate on my nerves. That had never happened before, even at their most ridiculous. Then came the political correctness out of the nowhere (remember the queefing episode?). Finally, their jokes started to fall flat on their faces every single time, and that's when i gave up on it. Strangely but perhaps not surprising, the decline of the show begun right about after they got a big increase in their production values.

 

[Metro]

Went to shit long before season nine.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I still remember some good episodes from season nine. I can't remember a single good episode from season ten or season eleven, except maybe Smug Alert, or the one about the dog trainer taming Cartman, or maybe the one about Tourette. But those are more like exceptions to the rule and from what i've seen from later seasons they don't even have those anymore.

 

[Carrion]

I haven't seen it since the mid-2000s but I remember South Park could get very annoyingly preachy. Usually via speech in the last few minutes of an episode.

They did away with that years ago.

And the whole speech thing was heavily tongue-in-cheek anyway. The preaching is almost always between the lines and even then its seriousness can usually be questioned.

Then came the political correctness out of the nowhere (remember the queefing episode?)

It was already there earlier, like in the episode with the South Park flag. It just wasn't as obvious because there was all sorts of other stuff going around that usually wasn't directly related to those topics.

And although I think the series took a notable drop in quality around the tenth season, I remember some of the recent seasons (13? 14? 15?) being actually really good. The latest one was pretty bad again for the most part, though.

The tenth season also had the WoW episode which was funny as hell, by the way.

 

[Jick Magger]

I only really 'watch' (South Park and Family Guy are background noise to me at best these days) American Dad anymore, and even that's pretty iffy most of the time.

I miss King of the Hill.

 

[DwarvenFood]

Out of all the "modern" cartoons I find only South Park, Futurama and Spongebob to be almost consistently watchable and enjoyable.

 

[Helly]

I only really 'watch' (South Park and Family Guy are background noise to me at best these days) American Dad anymore, and even that's pretty iffy most of the time.

I miss King of the Hill.

Please bring back King of the hill and Daria

 

[Aeschylus]

I haven't really watched South Park for a long time, but "Worldwide Recorder Concert" from back in season 3 remains one of the better examples of satire ever crafted.

 

[POOPERSCOOPER]

What is going to happen now that THQ is filing for Bankruptcy?

 

[oscar]

South Park has a lot of terrible, one-weak-stretched-out-joke-that-isn't-even-that-good-on-its-own episodes. But there are still the occasional flashes of brilliance (usually the spot-on parodies of preachy rich celebrity activist types). It would benefit from a slower production time.

As Jick said, American Dad isn't bad and has evolved into a more intelligent, less inane reference-centric Family Guy.

The new episodes I saw of Beavis and Butthead seemed on par with the older stuff as well. It seems to be one show that really hasn't gotten better or worse over time.

 

[Azrael the cat]

The best hope for the game's writing is that whilst South Park has gotten tired, it's been accompanied by Parker and Stone putting their efforts (very successfully) into musical theatre. If one were to look at it as 'a game from the writers of Book of Mormon', it doesn't look nearly as outdated, which seems to indicate that Parker/Stone are running out of things for the South Park medium, rather than going downhill as writers in general.

 

[Roguey]

What is going to happen now that THQ is filing for Bankruptcy?

The publishing contract'll be put on the auction block and sold to the highest bidder.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

What is going to happen now that THQ is filing for Bankruptcy?

The publishing contract'll be put on the auction block and sold to the highest bidder.

The thing is with this game Viacom was the one who came to Obsidian to have this game made and they are only using THQ to use there distribution line. So most likely they will go to some one else and it will not be sold in any way.

 

[Roguey]

I remember reading that THQ has been paying for the development itself for a while, though Viacom was originally funding it.

 

[hiver]

How about Obsidian takes the opportunity and buys it?
maybe they can split with SP guys.

 

[IronicNeurotic]

What is going to happen now that THQ is filing for Bankruptcy?

The publishing contract'll be put on the auction block and sold to the highest bidder.

The thing is with this game Viacom was the one who came to Obsidian to have this game made and they are only using THQ to use there distribution line. So most likely they will go to some one else and it will not be sold in any way.

Also Viacom still holds the rights. Anyone who wants to buy it will have to make a new contract with the SP/Viacom guys.

 

[Jick Magger]

Obsidian working on a game on a level which won't have a seven year development time, and won't allow the fans to blame the publishers when it's released as a buggy mess?

Jesus, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

 

[IronicNeurotic]

Chances are really low this is ending up in a buggy mess.

 

[Black]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/22/sou...tion-of-the-stick-of-truth-publishing-rights/

South Park Studios has filed a motion to halt THQ’s auction of publishing rights to South Park: The Stick of Truth in development with Obsidian.

Karma for making PE rtwp? I think so!

 

[Black_Willow]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/22/sou...tion-of-the-stick-of-truth-publishing-rights/

South Park Studios has filed a motion to halt THQ’s auction of publishing rights to South Park: The Stick of Truth in development with Obsidian.

Karma for making PE rtwp? I think so!

So, Stick of truth isn't getting released and Obshitian is going down?
ahead!

 

[Maiandros]

Obsidian working on a game on a level which won't have a seven year development time, and won't allow the fans to blame the publishers when it's released as a buggy mess?

Jesus, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

p.s. and a shame should that come to pass..i was so really trully utterly looking forward to MCA's contribution in the intellectual expanding of the reasoning behind Peter Griffin's assuredly tragic background..as he would have come to relate to us in full..with dialogue choices too!..assuming they'd let him..the bastards..

 

[Visbhume]

It is quite telling when people begin to describe a TV show where a giant feces is displayed as brilliant for doing so. Doubly so when those same people say it entitles the artists regularly producing such horrors to dictate everyone else how they should behave.

Certainly. Self-respecting satirists like, say, Rabelais, would never stoop so low as to include scatological humor in their work.