So, anyone playing League of Legends?

[trais]

I've read/watch some jungling guides and I tried to learn how to jungle with Jax. For lolz mostly, so no pressure, but it has been utter failure so far. I guess I'm not the Jax player, because with Cho'gath I had more successes.
Man, I love Cho. Building only tanky/ap or tanky/mobility items you can't be killed unless focused by their whole team, and even then you still have enough staying power to flash-nomnomnom their carry. The only problem is that you need to be a bit clever when ganking, but fortunately with Cho you can afford to buy an early oracle, so there's a way to do some successful ganking one way or another.

As soon as I have to points, I'm gonna buy Vi. Ulminati says she's super easy, so that's exactly what I need. But before I spend my hard earned IPs, are there any Vi-haters here? I'd love to hear some criticisms, to have both sides of the coin covered.

 

[Renegen]

Her mechanics are clunky so I would never play her. Play a smooth as silk jungler like Nocturne or Hecarim or Lee Sin.

 

[Azael]

I hate her looks and sounds/VO, does that count? Otherwise, she seems OK. Jarvan the Fourth does p.much the same stuff and is manly. so I see no need for her myself.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Vi looks really stupid and personally I always prefer Nocturne, another anti-carry with an unavoidable gap closer. Let's see :
Vi : Has two gap closers, % damage and shred, good tankiness passive, an aoe skill / aa reset and a point-and-click fuck you ultimate that has good damage and also CC. She has good mobility including wall-hop ganks, deals nice damage and is tanky.
Nocturne : AD/MS steroid / ranged AOE spell, good jungle sustain / aoe passive, passive AS steroid / spell shield, a point-and-click hard CC and a global vision removal / long ranged gap closer. He has pretty good mix of utility and damage, he can stick to his targets surprisingly well with his Q, the spell shield is invaluable and his early jungle is really good.

Vi is a better champion if you expect to get no gold at all and only build cheapass tank items. Otherwise, I think Nocturne is just better with his varied kit.

Also Xin and J4. The great thing about Xin is that it's hard to fuck up. Like it is with Jax by the way. Jax is a jungler based on the assumption that everybody sucks and the game will drag so long that you'll get to the point when Jax is really damn good. He has some awful match-ups with popular champions though, such as Nasus, who can outscale you and point-and-click remove all your damage.

 

[HanoverF]

Lots of Vi haters out there, just look at her info page

 

[trais]

I don't like Nocturne. Nothing wrong with the champ per se, I just don't like his style.
Hecarim looks like strong snowballing champ, but I've never seen him turning the game around when his team was losing. And when I'm jungling I expect my team to get behind, so I'm not sure he's the champ that I need. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Lee Sin is too complicated, I need someone who can point-click-win.
Like Xin Zhao. My god, this motherfucker is so strong it's not even funny. I definitely need try him in the jungle.
Same with Jarvan. But for some reason I don't like him. Even tho' I never, ever played him. Maybe I should give him a chance.

 

[Azael]

Xin Shao is p. much the definition of a"mash buttons to win" champ. Sure, there are nuancies and stuff, but compared to a lot of other champs you'll do p. well just using whatever skill is off cd.

 

[Markman]

Vi is ok, IMO. Takes some time to get used to but I dont like the type of builds on her. Its why I dont play Jarvan either. Big strong combo champs that only serve like a punchbag later on.
Those two should be built with damage items early on. But you gotta tank somehow.
Xin is hit or miss. Really easy to jungle and gank with but gets countered or pummeled if your team is behind. If someone is item or two ahead you'll be free gold for the rest of the game.
Pluses are that hes a stomper, uses very little mana and has decent damage and sustain throughout the game.

 

[Azael]

One common trait of all three is also that they shred the armor of the enemies, enhancing the damage of your other AD champs. Makes them useful even full tank, plus they pack some utility as well.

 

[Markman]

OMG VULCAN OMG. THROW OF THE YEAR. HOLY SHIT

 

[Suicidal]

I was just watching that game with a friend holy shit we were laughing so hard. It seemed like Gambit wanted to GTFO off that tournament ASAP to have some much needed vodka but Vulcun were like NOPE, THROW TIMES. Even Alex facepalmed after the end of the game.

EDIT: The tiebreaker was epic, Gambit almost pulled a Vulcun.

 

[Mystary!]

I sometimes wonder if EUNE is easier to get into gold...

For example, let me detail my jungling style which so far I am very confident will get me to gold (my normal elo being gold already). The enemy jungler picks Hecarim, I decide to counterpick with Nocturne. I know that Nocturne isn't exactly the best ganker compared to Hecarim but I pick him because the best thing to beat Hecarim IMO is to "out-carry" Hecarim, get yourself more fed than he is and then you can handle his force on the map. So the game starts, I tell my team not to feed Hecarim by buying wards. Obvious I know, but I've come to realize how critical communication for a jungler is. Mid and top give out some quick deaths because YOLO, no need to buy wards. Classic Hecarim ganks, not much to do and he shoots up to 2-0. I gank mid and blow my flash to kill their laner, a really good gank to get my weaker mid laner back in the lane. Now I could've tried to counter jungle him but except an early missed opportunity by me it wasn't really an option, Hecarim is very fast and does good damage not to mention he's now fed.

Alright, we're both level 6, I waste my ult on nothing while Hecarim uses his for a double kill bot and he gets to 3-0. Top and bot are losing to ganks and just natural lane matchups, bot lane cries that I haven't ganked once. This is by design because as my overall strategy dictates, I need to outscale Hecarim and can't really be babysitting lanes. Their bot lane goes back after the successful gank and I see Hecarim goes mid to farm but doesn't push, he probably backed too! I ping like crazy the dragon just as my bot lane gets back to lane and we take it in full view, I was just a lowly lvl 7 Nocturne with nothing but a Health Crystal. No one died for that dragon, we didn't win any teamfights, we had no pinks, just straight up map awareness and quick decision making. Score is 1-4, Hecarim's contribution is 4 kills, mine is 1 kill and a dragon. Then I just hang around the map and try to countergank Hecarim. Again bot lane is pressured as the tower is about to go down and I show up and get 1 kill on the support. The ADC cries that I "only gank when tower is at 200 hp". Then top is crying that he's losing, I give him a pity gank (my first gank top too) because there was no way their top was going to die but a great play gives us a kill. Hecarim still at only 4 kills contributed. A skirmish now breaks top, I countergank Hecarim, our mid comes we wipe them and I get a shutdown on Hecarim. GG, final score for me 7-1-11 and final score for Hecarim 3-4-3.

Was it an easy win? I had to go against Hecarim, one of the best gankers and snowballers in the game and my successful strategy called for quite an unorthodox pick. I had to give up the early game to his ganks, I had to let all 3 of my lanes live with their unfavorable matchups (though nothing too bad) but I stuck to my strategy and as soon as I gained my ultimate and I started to outscale him, his contribution fell to 0 and we won. That Hecarim is 6-1 for the week, with practically all his games hard carries. The game before that I faced off a Shyvana, which we lost but not necessarily to her, the game before that I faced off an Eve and had to be equally creative to win (I crushed her). If you really want to win while jungling, you have to get creative. "Lol, pick an OP ganker and get mobos" just doesn't cut it.

 

[Hellraiser]

OMG VULCAN OMG. THROW OF THE YEAR. HOLY SHIT

Explain for those who rather play other shit/watch godzilla than watch e-sports.

 

[Markman]

OMG VULCAN OMG. THROW OF THE YEAR. HOLY SHIT

Explain for those who rather play other shit/watch godzilla than watch e-sports.

Vulcun had massive lead in kills, map control and +6k gold vs Gambit, totally dominating. Then after a teamfight at about 20th minute they were all low and decided to do baron.
Baron raped em, Diamond and Alexich jumped in and stopped baron, won a teamfight and took baron themselves. Worst game decision ever that cost em the game.
Alexich went from like 0/3/0 to end a game with 14/3/7 about 15 minutes later. Throw of the year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zr39zcH4Fk
Baron fight at about 30 minute mark.

 

[PlanHex]

Holy crap, fnatic vs Cloud9 is entertaining as hell.

edit: Also, am I the only one who thinks Meteos looks like Andy Samberg doing a parody of the biggest douche in the universe?

 

[Markman]

Its a shame they only got to play 3 games tho.
Yellowstar on his Leona is a nasty motha. And giving europes best mid Kassadin when no team in the entire US cant play against him is asking to lose.

Gambit got beaten by a poke comp. They even lost that Ozone game vs a poke comp. But that Renekton was a fucking menace, I dont think Ive ever seen so much farm on him ever in that third game. And a mistake not to ban Tresh, that guy was epic on him.

 

[Azael]

I don't get why Cloud9 let xPekex have Kassadin in one game. To let him kave Kassadin in two games is just insane.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Ok I'm rooting for Fnatic, the only team I know of that has a Finn in it.

 

[Azael]

They have an "almost Finn" in puszu as well, Estonia is close enough, no? Only other country with a language that sounds close to yours.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Except that it's completely unintelligible to us.

 

[Donny]

Hey,

I've started by playing DOTA on Warcraft 3, played for some time, after I finally got bored of it, a friend of mine recommended me LoL, I must say... I'm not disappointed at all, over 500 games, sure some ranked/normal games are stressful and filled with trollers/afkers/feeders/and whatever more you can call them, but I enjoy playing it. It sometimes lags, recently they've been having lots of lagging problems, but they're manageable. Long story short? It's an awesome game, lots of champions to explore. I highly recommend you playing it for a long time.

 

[Azael]

So, OMG weren't even close to being the best chinks in the tournament?

Too bad they had to face each other so soon, would have been fun to have seen how another team handled the Chinese powerhouses.

 

[Renegen]

It sucks for Fnatic, apparently they scrimmed OMG a lot and were confident of beating them.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Wow, I just had the most amazing game in a long time. Our J4 starts the game by feeding Riven and Lee Sin, I kill Malzahar and Lee Sin as Rengar with the assistance of Brand. J4 continues feeding, I start dying because I run into these fed motherfuckers everywhere (I mean Riven is bot at before our second blue even spawned) and Malzahar is committed to using every ult on me for the rest of the game, suffice to say Rengar can't actually escape anyone in the jungle. Our bot also loses and feeds, I didn't see why but I'd guess it's because of the Blitz that later on would only grab minions. We lose all towers save three including nexus towers, lose two inhibs and all drakes and a baron or was it two barons. Then they just start throwing. I initiate if they don't, because I'm brave and it's lost, usually provoking every possible ult and ignite and whatever (like I said, every malzahar ultimate) so while I and sometimes Jarvan are derping around tanking (dying really fast is another word for it) the rest of our guys are killing off Riven and then the rest after that (usually Malzahar wasn't there or died at some random point). I had Randuins, Phage, Zeal, Zekes, Mobis and a Giant's Belt (at some point I just decided fuck the triforce I'm building giant's belts and that long sword is as good as zekes). Well winning something like three teamfights - and we were some 15 kills behind too - was required just so that we could get our very first tover, their mid, and to get our damn inhibs to spawn, which were still undefended by anything. I still continued this "jump onto Graves and die" routine, I felt silly just tanking his DPS with no chance of actually killing him while my team was killing off the other guys. After a couple more Aces, they finally lost their nexus, with most of their towers still intact, only mid towers and one bot (which was pushed by minions) gone. Lol.

Just look at the builds though. What the fuck?



I guess it helps if the enemy adc builds no defenses, the fed riven is one of those players who hates armor penetration and their ap carry hates damage.

 

[Renegen]

Riot finally appeals to the Codex base with their next champion, Jinx the tranny: