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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

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Recently I started playing on Twisted Treeline (well I did play there before but it was, long, long time ago). It is pretty fun map, instead of your usual laning last hitting early phase from SR its constant gankfest. I have won every single game as Singed so far (not a big surprise considering just how strong he is on TT) and started to experiment a bit with AD Sion. On SR Ad Sion is .. well bad. He can be shut down too easily in team fight, exhaust, blinds, stuns, even slows keep you from doing any damage which means you are not lifestealing which means you are useless and you die quickly. On 3 vs 3 however I think it could be workable idea. Sure exhausts still screw you but enemy team shouldn't have as much burst to outright kill you. First idea was standard crit build utilizing only ult for lifesteal (who wouldn't like to dish out almost 1000 damage with single hit and also heal for same amount?) but crit build is a bit expensive for TT and would leave you vulnerable before you'd beef yourself up with Banshee Veil (and Sion is melee char so its double bad idea) or you could delay it and get defensive items first but in this case you can forget about ever finishing your build.

So here is my first rough build I went with instead. Lets talk about items first.

Lantern to help with farming and clearing jungle/securing buffs, also free ward.

Mercs since as I said earlier you don't want to be disabled and it's also good way to squeeze in some MR into build early.

Then there is Black Cleaver + Stark combo. 65 armor reduction so your team can deal some serious damage, on top of that you are giving out attack speed, lifesteal and hp regen.

Aegis is next since you can't go with boots as your only defensive item (on a side note, I'm not sure when to get this one, right after boots seems like good idea though I guess you could delay it when enemies lack damage) so we add magic resist and armor to list of things you buff your team with, there also is damage but it's hardly noticeable value on champions (one thing a lot of people don't know about, aura from aegis doesn't work only on champions, it works on all allied units which means minions too, it's pretty handy for tower pushing, your minions last longer and deal much more damage).

Bloodthirster if you don't know what to do with money. If you are getting killed I'd get appropriate defensive item instead.

As for runes. Mana regen ensures you won't have problems in this area without having to buy single mana item. Armor pen in marks, well that's what I have but most probably flat damage would work better in this build, movespeed in quints since he is quite slow but quite frankly flat hp, or flat damage would probably (again) work better. It all still needs testing.

Masteries. I went for improved exhaust which is oh so useful in 3 vs 3, some armor, mr and utility tree. Wall hax on TT = win, so I want to have flash of cd as often as possible, also buffs and move speed and some extra mana regen. I have 2 left over points which I could invest in something but options aren't very thrilling. Almost non-existent crit chance, barely noticeable ap, or extra 2% of regens (again almost nothing).

Some tips how to make it better please?

Ps. Keep in mind that builder doesn't take into account free 65 damage and around 2-3 hundreds of extra farmed hp into account.
 

Phage

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My issue with TT is the sheer dominance of tanky DPS. (Even more so than 5v5)

I really hope that Magma Chambers (when that eventually comes......) won't have jungling as a valid option. I don't personally have anything against jungling since I mostly play as jungling amumu, but I think it'd be neat to see a 5v5 metagame where there wasn't a dedicated jungler every match.
 

DakaSha

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Vayne is so much fun.. i may have to purchase her once i get to level 20 and buy runes

Also i see what u meant about AP yi.. he either destroys or gets ruined (prob depending on other team)
AP yi against an attack speed attack damage yi is fucking deded
 

mugarod

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Tried out renekton since he is on free rotation this week. Holy shit the croc is the beast. I think I found my new favorite champion, now only to save up 6k ip
 

kingcomrade

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Since I got the bundles I've already got most of this week's heroes, and I'm not really impressed by any of the others. Renekton is alright, Garen is alright (nostalgia value for me, looks like he's a mix of Axe + Yurnero).

I liked a lot of last week's, though. Especially kog'maw and blitzcrank. I'll probably end up getting one or both of them.
 

DakaSha

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so im almost level 20.. what is the best general rune combination?
Im guessing its mostly defensive since that helps everybody?
Flat health quints? what else
 

Mystary!

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Health per level seals, Armor or Magic Penetration Marks, flat Cooldown Reudction Glyphs. IMO.

Renekton used to be my favorite aswell, he IS a beast and owns everyone in a 1v1.
He is fine aganst people that dont know how to play or dont have an cc, otherwise his potential goes to waste. Like the few times I used him in ranked I was so easily kited. I felt worthless, I was always out of range of the main fights. I was, probably, seen as a threat and delibratly kept at bay.
Maybe Cleanse would help.
 
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DakaSha said:
so im almost level 20.. what is the best general rune combination?

That question has been answered 5 or 6 times in this thread alone
 

Pony King

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DakaSha said:
so im almost level 20.. what is the best general rune combination?
Im guessing its mostly defensive since that helps everybody?
Flat health quints? what else
Didn't we just answer this on the last page?

Since you decided to ask again I might as well throw in this link that I found since. I disagree with it at certain points but it won't steer you completely wrong.
 
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Woop. Leona is out on EU.

Took several tries to actually get to play her, since some jackass with faster reflexes than me usually instalocked her first. And the few games I did lock her first, someone on my team dodged. Blech.

She's actually pretty decent in-game. Her damage output is a bit on the low side, even for a tank. It kind of hurts her last-hitting in lane - it feels like her autoattacks are worse than sonas.

Her Q+E combo is fun though. The skillshot seems to travel slightly shorter than the aiming template leads you to beleive. If an ally tags someone with a snare/stun, leona can get an insane combo off on them guaranteed.

Immediately start eclipse to get the countdown going. Zenith blade to the stunned/immobilized target. Use your ultimate, centered on the target. Hit them with shield of daybreak to prolong the stun, so they won't move befor eyour ult hits them for even more stun.

Me and my teams taric got that combo off a few times after he fired his stun for crazy damage and 6 seconds of someone being unable to do anything but cry OP.
 

Wulfstand

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Yeah, the new hero is the only reason for me giving Riot ~7 euros. First time I've ever given them a dime, and to be honest I don't feel that cheated.
Got Leona+ the valk skin, and she's hella fun. I played a few games with a friend of mine who picked Amumu, and God damn did the fun commence once we both hit level 6. I like to stack defensive items that also grant me cooldown reductions, I once to to my ult having a cd of ~40 seconds, but that was at around late-game, so yeah.
 

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Have they split the servers yet? Things have gotten worse for me. First I got tremendous amounts of lag, my latency bunnyhops from 60 to 500 through out the day, then I get disconnected and when I try to reconnect I face a 1h 17min queue.
Also, of the 4 Leonas I've seen, 3 played AP. So no increase in tanks as I predicted either.
:decline:
 

Teepo

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Ulminati said:
http://videogamewriters.com/mass-effect-3-lead-gameplay-designer-joins-league-of-legends-team-16178

RIP League of Legends. :(

In before Ezreal/Taric romance subquest, sticky brush and thermal clips for caitlyn.

If I recall correctly that's the game designer that disliked the RPG aspects of mass effect.
 

Markman

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Brand is a nasty motha to lane against. Combine him with Leona and its a neverending chain of stuns till you die. I see him in every game now, only good thing is that most of them are bad.
If you see Brand and Leona pick Cleanse.

Im on a 7 game win streak, finally some justice, lol. Had Malzahar against me that focused mid tower whole game. Man, his team was pissed. He managed to kill himself 33 times till the game ended. Afkers, ragequitters were all on the other team. +90 elo since yesterday. Too bad im off to work.
 

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Holy fuck Yorick is the shit in the new patch. My 5v5 ranked team went to banning him instantly (our previous bans were usually Amumu and Irelia). He's like a combination of Irelia and a viable Mordekaiser. All the damage, tricks and sustainability of both, without Mordekaiser's main weakness of having to push his lane to get creep kills. Not many who can top-lane against him, even Rumble has a hard time with it.

Leona seems meh so far. She's like an Amumu with a lower damage output. She seems like she could be viable, but she needs some work.

We played yesterday and won 3 out of 4 matches. Got completely outplayed in the last game. 130 creep kills on Udyr at the 15 minute mark (the benchmark for playing in 1800+ rating is 100 creep-kills at the 15-minute mark). Lane-Udyr is the shit right now - he's one hard motherfucker. I suspect our top-laner will have to train his lane against him in the coming time.
 

Mystary!

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I saw a couple of streams with Guardsman Bob lane-Udyr and was mighty impressed. He almost one-shotted guys at level one, great poking with bear/rush in stun->tiger/massive damage and dot ->turtle/runaway shielded and unharmed.
Coincidently I have had Udyr unlocked for quite some time but never gotten around to try him so I'm gonna give him a go now.
BUT I hear there's an OP bug with Wriggles Lantern and Turtle stance that makes the proc for minion damage heal you for the 500 health aswell, only works with turtle since the regular lifesteal should only affect the non-procced damage.
 

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Well, my win streak lasted for 12 games. Lost one cause Gangplank in my team was feeding and in turn of that Vlad went afk calling noobs for 20 minutes. But I did won one after losing. Lets hope for a new streak.
My goal is 1300, was 980 2 days ago, now 1124. I got 2,3 guys that I can duo queue with but they are rarely online when I am. So its mostly solo.

And, man, Leonas are baaad. Didnt see one good Leona today, one even missed the ult on me and I was standing infront of her.
 

kingcomrade

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Udyr was free the week I started playing. I thought he was really really good.

I can't play right now because the NA servers are shit upon. I tried to make an EU account but it wouldn't let me for some reason. I tried using a proxy but that didn't work.

Maokai is the hero I've been wanting to try and he's free this week.
 

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Euro servers are being split right now, so thats why you cant register. Should be over in a few hours.

Mao is nice to see in the game, very durable champ but needs a good lanemate to work with otherwise hes just ignored most of the game.His Ulti+Heal(summoner spell) can make a huge difference in teamfights. I run him with magpen/mregen/MR/health runes and 3/21/6 masteries. Heal/Ghost and start with boots+potions.
 

Grunker

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Maokai is pretty fun to and a really good laner in normal games where you mess around with the strategy. With a good AD carry on his side you can get some real fun out of the laning phase. In ranked however, he is useless, as he is a pretty bad jungler, can't hold the top-lane very well, and is a bit light on the damage unless you build him too squishy.
 

kingcomrade

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I like him but his ultimate is kind awkward. I understand it's mostly for teamfights but still how long to keep it up I dunno. I should youtube some videos or something.

I mostly just wanted to play him because I like his artwork and I like haunted trees.
 

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