So, anyone playing League of Legends?

[Phage]

Thanks for the advice, but the point is that I looked at the champs I own (the two bundles), realized I like jungle amumu, realized he's a top ban/pick from what I've heard, decided that I should learn another character that fulfills the roles of Tank and Jungler. Cho'Goth happens to be one of the best (top 5) junglers in the game, and is a tank.

After lurking the US LoL forums for a few weeks I'm really not expecting great team composition from other people in solo qeue unless I manage to get a decent elo, lol.

And yes, that tier list is strictly for who the best junglers are. Why would a tier list completely about the jungle take into account if that champion should be in a different role?


Edit: Of course if someone else on the team already picked up jungle warwick or jungle amumu (and won't switch) then I'd play lane Cho'Goth. Or one of the other characters I'm interested in (Currently Corki, Warwick, and Vlad, though I don't think I'm going to buy Vlad after free week is over)

 

[Grunker]

I see your point. It's just that jungle-cho and lane-cho are very different, and if you're going to be really good in the future I think skills with lane-cho would do you more good

But, as you say, Solo-Queue is not really know for their amazing team-setups.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I like jungling. Especially when people repeatedly overextend

Jesus Christ how horrifying.

 

[Phage]

I see your point. It's just that jungle-cho and lane-cho are very different, and if you're going to be really good in the future I think skills with lane-cho would do you more good

But, as you say, Solo-Queue is not really know for their amazing team-setups.

Like I said I've only played a month so I've still got a long road ahead and much to learn

Who knows, maybe by the time I'm 30 Riot will have nerfed the current metagame into oblivion

 

[Mystary!]

You might see Amumu banned in dreamhack games sure, but honestly do you think you'll reach that level of skill any time soon? In mid elo they still ban champs they dont know how to kill or have gotten killed by too often, so Trynd, Rammus, Vlad etc. Champs that doesnt bring much to the team.
Just stick with what you like for now, because as you say things are bound to change, so planning for high elo at the moment is pointless.

 

[Teepo]

Cho Gath needs a solo lane. Obviously not mid.

Isn't Gankplank's ganking non-existent and therefore he shouldn't jungle? I never thought it was about jungling speed. I thought it was his pathetic ganks.

Also, I don't really understand how builds work now with his new passive.
Anyone have any advice??

 

[Grunker]

Isn't Gankplank's ganking non-existent and therefore he shouldn't jungle?

How is it non-existant? Q procs his slow, he closes in, applies slow on each hit. On level six he starts with ulti, then Q, then closes in, then auto-slow.

I don't think he's the best jungler in the world, but he's certainly become worthy of notice now. Plus, HotShotGG and Shushei says according to their testing he might actually be the fastest jungler in the game now.

All that makes you wonder.

 

[Teepo]

It felt non-existent without his new passive. I imagine the ganks now could be potentially devastating if the laner is the right character.

I know you probably don't main GP but do you have any idea how a build would go with his new passive?

Do you go for crit, or what do you go for? I assume you start with a Philo stone.

I have no idea what to make of his new passive. I guess I will ask reddit.

Also, guys. Do you think Vlad was OP before they soft-nerfed him?

 

[Grunker]

It felt non-existent without his new passive. I imagine the ganks now could be potentially devastating if the laner is the right character.

I know you probably don't main GP but do you have any idea how a build would go with his new passive?

Do you go for crit, or what do you go for? I assume you start with a Philo stone.

I have no idea what to make of his new passive. I guess I will ask reddit.

I have no idea, but try to grab some streams where the pros jungle with him. He's melee DPS, so he'll have to go tanky after a maximum of two damage items (Wriggle's plus whatever). I don't have the first clue how to jungle with him though.

I'm pretty sure you should never go for crit chance though. Armor pen is just so much better.

 

[Teepo]

Problem is I got no runes. And I am willing to bet 10,000,000,000 rubles that Jungleplank needs runes.

Funny you should say tanky dps. http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2209#chap1

 

[Grunker]

Problem is I got no runes. And I am willing to bet 10,000,000,000 rubles that Jungleplank needs runes.

Funny you should say tanky dps. http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2209#chap1

I'd call that a pretty mediocre guide, item-wise (based only on what I think would work), actually. Is it featured? It's not nearly tanky enough, get Atma's for teh lulz (I guess), and buys Cooldown-boots instead of Mercury's (which can be alright, but mostly isn't). I think a spirit visage would serve him pretty well.

I'd prob go: Wriggle's - Mercury's Threads (CD Boots only if they have very little CC or if you will NEVER be a target) - Heart of Gold - Spirit Visage/Glacial Shroud (I'd need to test before finding the one I like best) - Trinity Force - Banshee's Veil

When you're full, sell Heart of Gold for one of two: If you're in front, Guardian Angle, if you're behind, whatever you need to stay alive in team-fights. Probably Frozen Heart.

Finally, sell Spirit Visage for a Force of Nature/Frozen Heart, depending on the game.

It's pretty close to my warwick build, although with variations like the glacial shroud for CD and the Trinity Force (which seems awesome on Plank).

I can also see Madred's Bloodrazor in lategame being good on him. Trade them for Wriggle's if you actually get that far.

You shouldn't need Frozen Mallet. Your passive should take care of that. But, if you find yourself needing it, I'd trade let it take the spot of Banshee's. You have your W.

 

[Teepo]

I was about to ask if it was tanky enough because Banshee's is the only thing on there that could be considered tanky.

Apparantly not?

Spirite Visage would be a waste. The only good thing about GP's w is the cleanse.

 

[Grunker]

The problem with my build is that it does not take enough advantage of his Q, the way I see it. So I would find a featured guide from a pro

 

[Hobo Elf]

Also, guys. Do you think Vlad was OP before they soft-nerfed him?

Not really. Played against bad Vladimirs and I slapped their shit hard.
Played against good Vladimirs and they slapped my shit. None of this is character specific to Vladimir. They could've slapped me around with any other character if they are good.
He's really weak and easy to harass before level 9, so that should always be used to your advantage. I see lots of people complain how it's OP that he's a mage without a mana pool, but hey, so is Kennen. He might use energy, but Vladimir uses his health to cast everything else except Transfusion.
Sanguine Pool is defo a very strong ability, but it's mostly the baddies that can't (or straight out refuse) adapt to it. My friend played as Ashe and complained how he could never ulti stun him, but I told him that just like with everything else, you harass him and force him to use his escape mechanics before you go in for the kill. If I know someone has flash up I'll try to get them to use it first. And if you can't do that? Play more and one day you can.
I think Sanguine Pool has been stealth nerfed too. Haven't played Vlad in a while so I'm not sure, but my friend said that they toned down the speed boost on it. It only boosts your speed for a second and then goes back to regular speed.

 

[Grunker]

The problem with Vladimir is the way he snowballs. In the right hands, if he gets to late game, he ends up being an unkillable Brand.

I'm extreeeemely careful calling champions OP, and I don't think Vladimir was. The soft-nerf was the right thing to do in my opinion. Tone him down just a tad.

As Hobo Elf says, he is very vulnerable in early lane, so push him and his tower hard, making sure he gets as few creep kills as possible. Wards will keep you safe from the jungler.

 

[Teepo]

If you get somebody to use flash you can consider that a successful gank. If somebody flashes it's because they made a mistake. It's a get out of free gank spell, like troll pool.

On an unrelated note, the coolest thing I ever did as Vlad was against Ashe. She was basically just out of my transfusion range and I was derping around near my turret and she ults at me, and I pooled a split second before it hit me. I wasn't even paying attention, I think I accidentally hit w. I think that the enemy team think I was pro though even though I'm horrible. For some reason it was pretty easy from then on.

I mention the OP thing because everyone on reddit were bitching about how Vlad is OP and how they were glad he was nerfed.

I feel like he is useless late game. By the time everyone is level 14, his effectiveness goes down.

Also I tried Spirit Visage on GP and I like it. It's a good counter against mages. I can't think of another item that gives (I forget what the term is called but) qualitative HP. It gives 250 reinforced by 30 magic resist. Man, I wish they didn't nerf HoG. I didn't even know it was OP until they changed it.

 

[Grunker]

From level 9-18 is where Vladimir is strongest. He's a real beast there. He's even still useful when everyone's got a full built, since his ult is a bomb in a team-fight.

And he has survivability.

 

[Teepo]

What I like about him is his farming must be the easiest out of any champion. If you focus on outfarming the other team you can easily get the top CC score in the game. I always fuck up the timing of the ult though.

Unless I'm fed I feel like my transfusion becomes weak by the time everyone is level 16. I probably need to be pulling off his full combo more often. I tend to just q and run away.

 

[mugarod]

Trundle is another awesome jungler. I am usually able to get wigle's lantern around lvl 6 and solo dragon no problem and ganking is also great with his pillar, usually it ends up in everyone opposite team either using up all the flashes or dying. He is pretty tanky as well, the only problems I ever have is with certain ranged characters but if team is good they are non factor.

 

[Grunker]

What I like about him is his farming must be the easiest out of any champion.

You should try playing Mordekaiser

Three AoE-spells that cost nothing. A pity he's mostly useless.

 

[mugarod]

I think either Yi or sivir would take the title of easy farming champion. Also Yi destroys bad teams by himself

 

[Mystary!]

Had this ridicilous game last night, at the loading screen I immedietily tought these guys are trolling, 4 revives, (how often do ou see even one?) 2 support (soraka, janna) and an AP Yi. They all rushed Guardian Angel, and people on my team were stupid enough to tower dive when they saw someone on low health, "killed" them, and then got killed themselves of course.
This Yi had so much ap at the end he just stood meditating infront of our nexus while beeing bombarded by the two turrets and didnt lose a sliver of health.

 

[Grunker]

Watch the joke-game from Dreamhack. It features the pros as an all-support team beating the living shit out of riot's employees

 

[Ulminati]

So I just tried my frst ever game as gangplank. Jungle tankplank, the game lasted for ages.
towards the end, I had 3.1k hitpoints, 175 armor, 120 magic resist, a built-in cleanse, a movespeed boost, tons of slow and a parrley that hit for 1065 damage every 3 seconds before crits were factored in.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Watch the joke-game from Dreamhack. It features the pros as an all-support team beating the living shit out of riot's employees Razz

Link?