Revisiting VtM: Bloodlines

[laclongquan]

There is but frankly not as memorable as Malkavian first run, so I forgot all about it. At least Toreador is a bit better, though not much.

 

[Grunker]

Are there any extra dialogues or quests to do ?

A bit with the prince AFAIR, nothing as major as some of the other clans.

 

[The Nameless Pun]

Tremere is on my list to play the next VTMB

Same here. Already finished Brujah, Malkavian, Nosferatu. Anyone tried Ventrue ?

I'm playing a ventrue on my first playthrough. I have a feeling I'll get my ass handed to me.

 

[baturinsky]

Tremere is on my list to play the next VTMB

Same here. Already finished Brujah, Malkavian, Nosferatu. Anyone tried Ventrue ?

I'm playing a ventrue on my first playthrough. I have a feeling I'll get my ass handed to me.

Why? Ventrue have Fortitude. You can get 4 Brawl quite early for 3 points + 2 books + Nines training. Throw some Strength in, and you can smash everybody's head in easily.

 

[Prime Junta]

Tremere is on my list to play the next VTMB

Same here. Already finished Brujah, Malkavian, Nosferatu. Anyone tried Ventrue ?

I'm playing a ventrue on my first playthrough. I have a feeling I'll get my ass handed to me.

The clan doesn't make much difference to combat capability. It just means that if you don't have Celerity or Potence you need to invest more in the stats and skills. Once you get decent guns, it's pewpewpew all the way regardless of who you are anyway.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

OTOH this accurately describes Lesi who tells people every day how much she hates westerners yet has hundreds of them fawning all over her.

I can vaguely remember who that is, some Asian chick you're stalking? Still, different people, different fetishes.

I'm playing a ventrue on my first playthrough. I have a feeling I'll get my ass handed to me.

You have Fortitude which can make you near impervious to damage and Dominate which has Trance as the 1st level ability, invaluable in pretty much every situation from sneaking and feeding to bossfights (it stuns everything). Also Dominate can replace Persuasion in many quests as you can use it in dialogue (up to level 3), of course it won't work on everyone (NPCs who are lower gen vampires than yourself for example like Therese/Jeanette and the prince) but still, can be pretty useful.

 

[Grunker]

Tremere is on my list to play the next VTMB

Same here. Already finished Brujah, Malkavian, Nosferatu. Anyone tried Ventrue ?

I'm playing a ventrue on my first playthrough. I have a feeling I'll get my ass handed to me.

Why? Ventrue have Fortitude. You can get 4 Brawl quite early for 3 points + 2 books + Nines training. Throw some Strength in, and you can smash everybody's head in easily.

Yeah, my most succesful melee char was Ventrue with Melee.

 

[Jaesun]

Are there any extra dialogues or quests to do ?

I don't believe there are any extra quests, but there are some small bits of dialogue if you are Gangrel (with Beckett) and I think some more small dialogue with Strauss if you are Tremere? And of course as a Malkavian you see the game a bit differently because you are bat shit insane and can see things others can't.

 

[Jaesun]

I do hope we get something out of the Paradox/Obsidian thing.

The setting is way too cool to let it fade.

I would *assume* they would use the New World of Darkness setting, which is quite a bit different. I am still reading the sourcebooks now, and it is quite different. But you could tell a really good story with this new setting.

 

[baturinsky]

Malkavians seems to mostly just say the same, but in more flowery words.

 

[Goral]

I'm also tempted to play this game but I'll wait on GOG to release it - there are rumours that it will be available in 1 month (I have a DVD with the game though that was included with Polish gaming magazine). I've never played Nosferatu before, figured that travelling via sewers will be tedious. I'll have to grit my teeth and do it eventually though. In general sewers aren't THAT BAD if you know the game. It's easy to rush through even without Wesp's shortcuts and celerity.

(...)
I believe this game has most interesting characters in gaming industry, has awesome atmosphere and is just fun to play - maybe except for this shit with werewolf (I usually cheat and squzee it with godmode on).

About that encounter, there is a really easy way to deal with werewolf. All you need to do is to go to the burning forest, as far as you can, near the right edge of the map and the werewolf won't be able to harm you. Then you go make something to drink and eat, go back after 3 minutes and the gondola/tram will be waiting on you. Killing werewolf gives more XP of course but if you don't have celerity/fortitude or just don't want to bother that's the best thing. And it works with Wesp's patch (tested it on version 9 I think).

 

[ZagorTeNej]

For those who know such things about the gaming industry, would Paradox be able to finance a spiritual successor to Bloodlines (FPS/RPG hybrid set in WoD)?

 

[Jaesun]

Malkavians seems to mostly just say the same, but in more flowery words.

If you pay very careful attention to all of the dialogues, they actually mention stuff no other clan would see. It is rather subtle, and you would have to have played the game before. I thought who ever did that, did a good job of it.

 

[Athelas]

Malkavians seems to mostly just say the same, but in more flowery words.

Most of the NPC responses stay the same, but the Malkavian responses typically foreshadow later plot developments and things you can find out about the characters.. Which is why a Malkavian playthrough is ideal for a second run, but not really advisable for a first playthrough.

 

[Maculo]

I'm also tempted to play this game but I'll wait on GOG to release it - there are rumours that it will be available in 1 month (I have a DVD with the game though that was included with Polish gaming magazine). I've never played Nosferatu before, figured that travelling via sewers will be tedious. I'll have to grit my teeth and do it eventually though. In general sewers aren't THAT BAD if you know the game. It's easy to rush through even without Wesp's shortcuts and celerity.

(...)
I believe this game has most interesting characters in gaming industry, has awesome atmosphere and is just fun to play - maybe except for this shit with werewolf (I usually cheat and squzee it with godmode on).

About that encounter, there is a really easy way to deal with werewolf. All you need to do is to go to the burning forest, as far as you can, near the right edge of the map and the werewolf won't be able to harm you. Then you go make something to drink and eat, go back after 3 minutes and the gondola/tram will be waiting on you. Killing werewolf gives more XP of course but if you don't have celerity/fortitude or just don't want to bother that's the best thing. And it works with Wesp's patch (tested it on version 9 I think).

Personally, I did not think Nosferatu was that great. I appreciated what Troika did with Nosferatu, as I thought it was unique. By the endgame, however, I was not amused with the sewers. If I remember correctly, you can use obfuscate to run outside the sewers, but the endgame still drags out a little. Then again, my favorites were Tremere (op as fuck terminators with blood bombs) and Malkavian, and I have seen plenty of people that dislike those two.

As for the werewolf, I remember there being an easy way to kill it with the observatory gates. There was some space on the walkway near the doors that the werewolf could not hit you, if you crouched down correctly. Eventually the werewolf just walks away, which allows you to easily go to the control panel. I am not sure wesp's patch fixed it.

 

[Lacrymas]

Malkavians do "spoil" some things in advance, but it's such a jumbled mess it doesn't make sense until you've played it once. Just like Rosa actually. You also hear whispers from the Madness Network while playing as one. I think you can hear something along the lines of "deceiver", "liar" when talking to LaCroix.

 

[hpstg]

If any of you have a relatively good GPU from the last 2-3 years, you can try my ReShade config. You just have to paste the contents of the zip file in the same place where vampire.exe resides. I tried to make the game as I remembered it, I don't like changing the original vision too much.

 

[Excidium II]

Tremere master race.

I only picked Tremere first time around because the male model looked the coolest.

 

[Excidium II]

For those who know such things about the gaming industry, would Paradox be able to finance a spiritual successor to Bloodlines (FPS/RPG hybrid set in WoD)?

I think so. Getting the IP would be the biggest obstacle, but they own it now. Having a qualified developer is another challenge, but Obsidian exists and they already have an active partnership.

Finances isn't really an obstacle I think. They're funding Tranny and it's a team of 30 developers. VTMB shpiritual sequel wouldn't need much more people, and would also return much more money.

 

[Jaesun]

I always thought the Tremere male PC model was HOT...

 

[Lacrymas]

It depends on how they do it, we saw what happened with Siege of Dragonspear and VtM:B has a smaller fan base (I'm presuming, but it makes sense that BG has a bigger fan base).

 

[Lhynn]

Why do people keep harping on ventrues Fortitude when majesty from Presense not only reduces damage but also slows everyone down, they hit less often, fail almost all the time and make any fight in the game a cakewalk.

 

[Bubbles]

SoD wasn't a sequel, and it couldn't be marketed as an FPS either.

 

[Excidium II]

Why do people keep harping on ventrues Fortitude when majesty from Prescense not only reduces damage but also slows everyone down, they hit less often, fail almost all the time and make any fight in the game a cakewalk.

Yeah, when I played Ventrue I was surprised of what an immortal combat beast she was.

 

[Lacrymas]

SoD wasn't a sequel, and it couldn't be marketed as an FPS either.

I'm more afraid of it turning INTO an FPS than marketing it as one.