Capcom Resident Evil 4 Remake - out now for PC/Playstation/Xbox

[Ivan]

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Efficient. I'd rather have this than overlay text or flashing/glimmering shit.

 

[Frank Capicoli]

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This made me chuckle.

I wanted to see if the scene was kept from the original. Nothing happened.

 

[Tyranicon]

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This made me chuckle.

I wanted to see if the scene was kept from the original. Nothing happened.

Is it one of the things removed from the remake? Why? It's such a low effort thing that people expect from the remake.

Big decline if true.

Edit: I think you fucked up somewhere:

is this really a spoiler?

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Go and play the game ffs

 

[Frank Capicoli]

Edit: I think you fucked up somewhere:

I'm guessing if you hit the black bass fish it doesn't trigger then since I grabbed them all for lootables. Kind of stupid that doesn't trigger the instant kill.

 

[Frank Capicoli]

Go and play the game ffs

As somebody playing it right now anybody that's not, really isn't missing anything.

 

[DemonKing]

Played 3 hours last night and enjoyed myself (never played the original but have done RE2/3 remakes and 7/8) - can't count the number of times the game has already trolled me into stepping on a bear trap though...

 

[Tehdagah]

Go and play the game ffs

As somebody playing it right now anybody that's not, really isn't missing anything.

How is it compared to the original?

 

[Frank Capicoli]

You know what Resident Evil really needed? MMO tier side quests. Sure shooting the blue medals to get that pistol in base re4 was pretty stupid but here they've really improved on the formula. On your quest to save the presidents daughter don't forget to kill 3 rats!

 

[Ezekiel]

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I blame Uncharted. Bunch of people complimented it at the time for color-coding climbing objects, saying that it's game design without HUD elements. Now the yellow on touchable objects is everywhere.

 

[ADL]

I think color-coding is necessary in most modern games due to a lack of visual clarity and washed out color grading because everything is some shade of gray and brown. Without those indicators everything would be gray and brown. When everything's hyper realistic you need those sorts of indicators in static worlds. It's different when you're making immersive sims and shit where everything's interactive but I know I would hate going up to random barrels constantly and being disappointed that they're not lootable.

Perhaps there's a better way of doing it but not in the context of a RE4 remake. It would require a completely different artstyle.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

I don't mind that kind of visual help. But maybe they should make it optional at least. Shadow of the tomb raider for example does it, the "white jeez" that guides you can be removed completely.

 

[kites]

Is it really necessary? I dunno. It was never a problem in the original, and wouldn't be in the remake. It's clear what is breakable for loot, those few models of boxes and barrels.

 

[Wunderbar]

It's not just RE problem, every modern game looks busy and cluttered. Devs are aware of this problem, but instead of fixing it and making their games look clearer they opt for immersion-breaking solutions such as marking all interactable objects with a dye to make them stand out in the environment.

Capcom, however, took the worst elements from both worlds by introducing both the color-coded environmental objects, and adding ugly HUD prompts to every item that can be picked up.

And to be honest I don't how else they could've solved this problem - due to the use of photogrammetry tech all trash props in their games look just as hi-poly and detailed as the actually important items.

 

[CyberWhale]

Played 3 hours last night and enjoyed myself (never played the original but have done RE2/3 remakes and 7/8) - can't count the number of times the game has already trolled me into stepping on a bear trap though...

Since I'm not paying 60 bucks for any game (especially a remake) I've went back and tried the GC original (on Dolphin) and also ended up playing several hours/chapters in. Say what you want about the game, but the moment to moment gameplay is decent enough to keep you playing the game for hours on end.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Highlighted items is just a symptom of software streamlining. People don't "dig" in software as they used to, not just games. "It has to be intuitive". The devs for Duck Tales talked about this. When the original snes game came out, kids would immediately start digging for secrets, but when the remaster came out, they had to include actual signs pointing at them, because kids of the same age range just didn't had the curiosity to try to look for secrets.

I think having detailed guides at the ready on the internet killed a lot of this gaming spirit .

 

[racofer]

It's not just RE problem, every modern game looks busy and cluttered. Devs are aware of this problem, but instead of fixing it and making their games look clearer they opt for immersion-breaking solutions such as marking all interactable objects with a dye to make them stand out in the environment.

Capcom, however, took the worst elements from both worlds by introducing both the color-coded environmental objects, and adding ugly HUD prompts to every item that can be picked up.

And to be honest I don't how else they could've solved this problem - due to the use of photogrammetry tech all trash props in their games look just as hi-poly and detailed as the actually important items.

 

[Drakortha]

3D gaming was a gimmick, just like VR. Only it just happened to catch on with the masses and it destroyed greatness as a result.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I'd say that textures are getting "too" good and it's getting difficult to tell usable things from background stuff. I would say that there's a slow yet sustained decrease in interactive objects in action games.

 

[Drakortha]

I'd say that textures are getting "too" good and it's getting difficult to tell usable things from background stuff. I would say that there's a slow yet sustained decrease in interactive objects in action games.

The obvious solution then would be to make everything usable or at least interactive in some way. But that would actually mean innovation and we can't have that. It would be too much work for these millennial developers who are used to flipping assets and making pretty backdrops without any kind of depth.

When 3D environments in current gen RE games have almost the same amount of interactivity as the fixed backgrounds in RE 1-3, you know we haven't made any progress.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

There’s breakable objects that aren’t marked too, they just don’t have anything in them.

A more elegant solution could’ve been to just have the yellow on the boxes and barrels be some big logo. Now, it’d make more sense for something like that to be burned on instead of painted on, but whatever, the point is for it to pop.

Not really sure why the windows need it. It kind of seems like they worked a tell into the window frames anyways

 

[ScarredBushido]

i remember having fun figuring out whats breakable and not so that when i do a new game+ i'd be faster and efficient.

but gaming is a consumer market now, not for fun.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

And to be honest I don't how else they could've solved this problem - due to the use of photogrammetry tech all trash props in their games look just as hi-poly and detailed as the actually important items.

The only way

 

[KIss My Ass]

The only way

Oh yeah codexers would eat that up. The more it resembles a turd the better.

Btw codexers are bitching about how Metroid Prime Remastered looks, arguably the best high profile remake in forever. If it doesn't look like shit, smell like shit, taste like shit, it is shit to them but not the good shit. I get tired of these fat fruitcakes crying about modern visuals, ie, the only good thing most modern games have going for them.

"It doesn't look 1998 enough, WAAAAAAAH"

 

[Mikeal]

Man I'm happy that one of the best games ever gets equally good remake.