Resident Evil 2 Remake

[Ash]

Meh, President Evil has kind of ran its course these days. There's been, what, 30 titles, and none have been notably good after 4.

I want continuations of these old gems:

Yeah there's new Shock games and a new Cthulhu game in the works, but NuCthulhu isn't survival horror and is developed by FrogWares, and in the case of System Shock my expectations are forever low as devs of that style abandoned their monocles long ago.

 

[karoliner]

Is really nice we're getting a RE3 remake too, that's my favorite of the classic ones.

 

[Invictus]

It will be interesting to see what the scenarios for Leon and Claire turn out to be in the Remake
In any case and regardless of my obvious interest in the remake, the original campaigns are still so damn fun and I am having a blast playing right now, will probably do all 4 campaigns in a row to get that RE feel

 

[Machocruz]

Leon has the better arsenal to me

That's a toughie. With Claire you get the Bow Gun, Grenade Launcher w/multiple ammo types and Spark Shot (!). With Leon you get the three-burst pistol, Custom Shotgun and Custom Magnum. Flamethrower

I'd say a tie, as it should be.

Claire's Grenade Launcher is way too good. Leon has fun custom weapons, but that Grenade Launcher alone carries Claire's arsenal to the top.

I mean favorite as in what kinds of guns I like, not effectiveness or power. Not into the bow gun or grenade launcher. Magnum and shotgun all the way baby.

 

[KK1001]

It's nice to see Capcom turn things around. They ran Street Fighter into the ground, but at least Resident Evil is back. RE7 wasn't perfect but god damn does it look it after its travesty of a predecessor.

 

[agentorange]

Is really nice we're getting a RE3 remake too, that's my favorite of the classic ones.

Where did they say this.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

Is really nice we're getting a RE3 remake too, that's my favorite of the classic ones.

Where did they say this.

They haven't. I'm sure a Nemesis remake will be a given though (and mabey even a Code Veronica remake) provided RE2 does well, and it probably will. It's fucking RE2.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

I'm calling it now: that's not Claire. It's the long awaited official debut of Elza Walker.

And you wanna know some real shit? This is actually Resident Evil 1.5.

It took over 20 years but it's coming, baby. Buy stocks now.

 

[Wunderbar]

I'm calling it now: that's not Claire. It's the long awaited official debut of Elza Walker.

Capcom already said that Elza's costume will be available as an unlockable.

 

[agentorange]

Is really nice we're getting a RE3 remake too, that's my favorite of the classic ones.

Where did they say this.

People thought RE2 remake was a given after RE1 remake and it took nearly 20 years to get it.

 

[Kitchen Utensil]

Is really nice we're getting a RE3 remake too, that's my favorite of the classic ones.

Where did they say this.

They haven't. I'm sure a Nemesis remake will be a given though (and mabey even a Code Veronica remake) provided RE2 does well, and it probably will. It's fucking RE2.

It's not. With that over the shoulder/third person perspective, it's not even Resident Evil.

 

[agentorange]

How would the Nemesis fights even work with this slow paced over the shoulder camera. All the Nemesis fights, and the Grave Digger fight in RE3 forced you to be very mobile, and on higher difficulty or doing challenge playthroughs you really had to make use of the advanced mechanics like dodging. Whereas in RE4 the over the shoulder and slow aiming and movement forced all the boss fights to be very frontally oriented and slow, giving you enough time to line up shots as a boss went through an animation or walked towards you, like a light gun game. I'm curious to see how the boss fights are handled in this RE2 Remake.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

How would the Nemesis fights even work with this slow paced over the shoulder camera. All the Nemesis fights, and the Grave Digger fight in RE3 forced you to be very mobile, and on higher difficulty or doing challenge playthroughs you really had to make use of the advanced mechanics like dodging. Whereas in RE4 the over the shoulder and slow aiming and movement forced all the boss fights to be very frontally oriented and slow, giving you enough time to line up shots as a boss went through an animation or walked towards you, like a light gun game. I'm curious to see how the boss fights are handled in this RE2 Remake.

The over the shoulder gameplay improved quite a bit after 4 & 5. Revelations 2 added a really nifty dodge manuever that I hope Capcom brings back at some point. Mobility and shooting in general was incredibly responsive in Revelations 2.

 

[Machocruz]

They would just have to pull back the camera more. That solves most of the problems with these over the shoulder perspective games. The less you have to turn to see what's around you, the better.

Btw, RE font game is weak these days. Bring back typewriter style. Or at least put some serifs on them bitches.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Resident evil 3 is the Dark souls of the series

 

[ScrotumBroth]

I'm recoiling from over the shoulder camera, it's just not the RE experience.

Remember those wierd angles, like on the floor looking up, or from a cubard, makes you feel like you're watching through the eyes of zombies etc. and the lack of peripheral vision only aided the atmosphere.

Marvin scene was offputing, playing through both A+B scenarios is gone, moving is slow and I can already tell this game just won't be for the old fans.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

What I enjoyed about the old fixed camera angles was that it made you pause for a few seconds to listen for any sounds of enemies. What was cool was how a lot of enemies had these sounds they made which you could use to prepare for them. Zombies groaning and shambling around, Lickers with their deep hiss-like breathing, Dogs and how their paws would tap against the tiles, etc. Then you had to slowly proceed and wonder just where in the room they were.

This is also what made the Nemesis pretty terrifying since he wouldn't be lurking in a room, he'd simply appear and proceed to chase you room-to-room. To me RE3 was the best of the classic REs.

 

[Tehdagah]

How would the Nemesis fights even work with this slow paced over the shoulder camera. All the Nemesis fights, and the Grave Digger fight in RE3 forced you to be very mobile, and on higher difficulty or doing challenge playthroughs you really had to make use of the advanced mechanics like dodging. Whereas in RE4 the over the shoulder and slow aiming and movement forced all the boss fights to be very frontally oriented and slow, giving you enough time to line up shots as a boss went through an animation or walked towards you, like a light gun game. I'm curious to see how the boss fights are handled in this RE2 Remake.

The over the shoulder gameplay improved quite a bit after 4 & 5. Revelations 2 added a really nifty dodge manuever that I hope Capcom brings back at some point. Mobility and shooting in general was incredibly responsive in Revelations 2.

Revelations 2 controls, combat mechanics and enemy design are massive decline after RE6.



If Capcom wants to remake RE3 they should use RE6's mechanics, otherwise it won't be even worth buying it at a discount.

Also there should be a versus mode with playable Nemesis, because why not?

 

[Wunderbar]

If Capcom wants to remake RE3 they should use RE6's mechanics

No.

 

[Tehdagah]

If Capcom wants to remake RE3 they should use RE6's mechanics

No.

Why shouldn't it have the most complex combat mechanics in the series?

 

[Wunderbar]

If Capcom wants to remake RE3 they should use RE6's mechanics

No.

Why shouldn't it have the most complex combat mechanics in the series?

Flashy combat needs to be supported with proper level design. RE6 shat the bed in that department by locking you in small linear levels where you can't really utilize your arsenal of moves.
RE3 was claustraphobic. With RE6 combat devs either have to redesign the city and location to be more open (which is bad for remake), or repeat RE6 mistakes.

 

[Wunderbar]

Btw, gunplay in RE6 was bad. Guns deal random damage (sometimes you can oneshot zombie with a pistol, sometimes you had to pump half of the AR clip to kill it), enemies had invulnerabilit frames during some animations, hit detection was wonky. It made Chris's campaign to be such a chore.

 

[Tehdagah]

Flashy combat needs to be supported with proper level design. RE6 shat the bed in that department by locking you in small linear levels where you can't really utilize your arsenal of moves.
RE3 was claustraphobic. With RE6 combat devs either have to redesign the city and location to be more open (which is bad for remake), or repeat RE6 mistakes.

But you can utilize your arsenal of moves even on small areas, and RE6 does have some of the biggest areas in any RE game. Redesigning things is good (and necessary) for a remake.

Btw, gunplay in RE6 was bad. Guns deal random damage (sometimes you can oneshot zombie with a pistol, sometimes you had to pump half of the AR clip to kill it), enemies had invulnerabilit frames during some animations, hit detection was wonky. It made Chris's campaign to be such a chore.

There's no random damage, until you're talking about critical shots. I don't recall animations with iframes, with the exception of some bosses. How is the hit detection wonky?

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

As much shit as people give RE6, the real decline began with RE4.


The atmosphere and tension felt in the opening moments of RE4 goes out the window the second you see you can German Suplex a Spanish villager's head off. Maybe you'll do what I did: blink desperately a few times, convince yourself it was all a figment of your imagination, and never hit that button prompt again.

Now RE6 sucked dick, this is known, but at least it had the hilarity known as the Rasklapanje. If you ever tried that game mode where you play as an enemy creature and not spent ten minutes of your mortal existence in this world flailing around uselessly on the ground as a disembodied torso due to awful controls, you don't know comedy.

 

[Ash]

Flashy combat needs to be supported with proper level design.

Yup. And proper AI. Proper resource economy. Proper inventory progression etc.