Rance Series

[Haba]

Here is an early interface translation patch:
https://mega.co.nz/#!cAdHGAoY!JrcEc4aTq3ET7Nrp7rYKmFcO1gDvBYC6PwNhuXiLhhw

It also updates the game to version 1.01

Here is some music to go with it

 

[Grinolf]

Goddam Rick

Is it really Rick? He looks more like another Char's clone on that picture.
Wait, he is a superstrong blonde bishounen, who wear a mask and have a nickname "the Red Death" because of his red armor. So guess he wasn't that far from it from the begining. Strange for me not noticing this earlier.

 

[TigerKnee]

Leazas Royal Guards (like Leila) also wear Golden armor for a reason.

Seriously there's a whole bunch of Gundam reference/jokes in Rance.

 

[JoKa]

About the TRUE ending, massive spoilers ahead!

Spoiler

After you unlock all girl IF-routes you get the whole ending, not the interrupted one you get the first time, in which you UNFREEZE Sill! Personally I haven't seen it but several guys on Hongfire talked about it, so I'm positive it's not fake

 

[Grinolf]

Leazas Royal Guards (like Leila) also wear Golden armor for a reason.

Honestly, I don't get this one. What is golden armor about?

 

[Haba]

He's in disguise:

Anyway, Rance X is going to be absurd.

For example, Rance has 20 (or 12, depending on the interpretation) fated girls.

Spoiler

One for every finger and every toe.

So far revealed:

1. Sill
2. Kanami
3. Shizuka
4. Sen
5. Childie
6. Sheila
7. Miracle

And

At least seven children (or more, no birth control since Sengoku)

Spoiler

Dark Rance
Reset Kalar
Isoroku's son Rangi
Lia gives birth to one at the end of IX
Teru is pregnant with Rance's child at the end of Rance Quest
Magic is pregnant as well
Senhime is pregnant at the end of IX (canon?)

 

[Haba]

About the TRUE ending, massive spoilers ahead!

Spoiler

After you unlock all girl IF-routes you get the whole ending, not the interrupted one you get the first time, in which you UNFREEZE Sill! Personally I haven't seen it but several guys on Hongfire talked about it, so I'm positive it's not fake

Spoiler

Pretty sure that's BS. Those guys probably can't read Japanese. There are Sill CG's, but Rance just daydreams that scene.

 

[JoKa]

Spoiler

Pretty sure that's BS. Those guys probably can't read Japanese. There are Sill CG's, but Rance just daydreams that scene.

Spoiler

That may very well be, but I'll wait and see...first have to unlock it anyway.

 

[TigerKnee]

Honestly, I don't get this one. What is golden armor about?

This is one of Char's other famous suits that he piloted.

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSN-00100_Hyaku_Shiki

And this one was piloted by a clone in an alternate universe: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100130082732/gundam/images/d/de/Mrc-f20-gold.jpg

 

[TheEntitledOne]

About the True canon ending, or whatever it is. I beat the 7 heroine routes, and from the Cg gallery I can access a new ending, which seems expanded with stuff from the different endings (I guess it's really the Canon for the next game). I will start a NG+ later and see if there are new events.

The last CG you get in the advanced ending (Spoiler heavy)

Spoiler

You sure you wanna spoil yourself?

Spoiler

The priestess "Crook" or whatever her name is performs some ritual on her with whatever treasure Rance got in Helman, but doesn't let Rance watch (I hope there isn't anything saddy going on, like a pact with higher powers), some hours later Sill is waiting for him with new clothes (since Rance had removed the previous set during the 1-hour unfreeze from Magnum.)

This was her previous form

 

[Haba]

Spoiler

FUNCTION ＥＶ／エピローグ／ランスＢ
#210 strings, 181 messages
s 001 背景／帝都地下通路
s 002 立ち／ランス／基本／笑顔
m 000 がはははははははは！
m 001 ランス達が
m 002 ヘルマンの宝物庫を目指していた。
s 004 立ち／ランス／基本／笑顔
m 003 ヘルマンの間抜け共め！
m 004 俺様が宝物庫に忍び込んでいることに
m 005 まったく気づいていないようだな。
s 006 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 006 別に忍び込む必要も
m 007 ないように感じますが。
s 008 立ち／ランス／基本
m 008 ま、よこせと無理矢理奪ってもいいが、
m 009 戦うことになっても面倒だ。
m 010 今の内にサッと盗む。
s 010 立ち／ランス／基本／笑顔
m 011 おほほほほほほ。
s 012 立ち／アルカネーゼ／基本／困り顔
m 012 いや、頼めば
m 013 譲ってくれる気がするけど……
s 014 立ち／ランス／基本
m 014 元盗賊のボスが何言ってやがる。
m 015 それ、行くぞ。
m 016 三人が宝物庫内を探し回る。
s 016 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 017 うーむ、うーむ、うーむ……
s 018 立ち／アルカネーゼ／基本
m 018 アニキー、それらしいのあったー？
s 020 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 019 うーむ……
s 022 立ち／アルカネーゼ／基本／困り顔
m 020 …………
s 024 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 021 それらしいのがまったくない。
m 022 当時は世界随一だった
m 023 大国の宝物庫でもこんなものか……
s 026 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 024 ランス、目当ての宝なら、
m 025 ありましたよ。
s 028 立ち／ランス／基本
m 026 おお、それは本当か？
s 030 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 027 はい、本当です。
s 032 立ち／ランス／基本
m 028 お、おお……
s 034 立ち／ランス／基本／笑顔
m 029 よし、ではすぐにランス城に戻るぞ！
m 030 行くぞ！
s 036 立ち／アルカネーゼ／基本
m 031 ちょ、パットンのアニキ達に
m 032 挨拶とかいいのかい！？
s 038 立ち／ランス／基本／笑顔
m 033 がははは、あんな連中に
m 034 挨拶など、いらんいらん！
m 035 急げー！
s 040 立ち／アルカネーゼ／基本／困り顔
m 036 あーあ、行っちまった。
m 037 アタイらも行くか。
s 042 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 038 はい。
m 039 …………
m 040 ……
s 044 背景／帝都地下通路
s 045 立ち／クリーム／革命軍
s 046 立ち／ヒューバート／ヒゲなし
s 049 立ち／クリーム／革命軍
m 041 ……と、これが帰り際の
m 042 アルカネーゼさんに聞いた、
m 043 ことの次第です。
s 051 立ち／ヒューバート／ヒゲなし
m 044 それで帰っちまったってのか……
s 053 立ち／クリーム／革命軍
m 045 はい……
s 055 立ち／ヒューバート／ヒゲなし／呆れ
m 046 ったく、宝が欲しいなら
m 047 いくらでもやるってのに、
m 048 こそ泥みたいなことしていきやがって。
s 057 立ち／シーラ／姫服／笑顔
s 058 大統領シーラ
m 049 でも、ランス様らしいですね。
s 059 立ち／ヒューバート／ヒゲなし
m 050 ……寂しいか？
s 061 立ち／シーラ／姫服
s 062 大統領シーラ
m 051 そうですね……
s 063 立ち／シーラ／姫服
s 064 大統領シーラ
m 052 少しだけ……
m 053 やっぱり寂しいです……
s 065 立ち／シーラ／姫服
s 066 大統領シーラ
m 054 ランス様はいつも明るかったから。
s 067 立ち／ヒューバート／ヒゲなし
m 055 ま、そうだな。
s 069 立ち／シーラ／姫服
s 070 大統領シーラ
m 056 でも……
s 071 立ち／シーラ／姫服／笑顔
s 072 大統領シーラ
m 057 大丈夫です。
m 058 シーラは、そっと自分の胸に触れた。
s 073 立ち／シーラ／姫服／笑顔
s 074 大統領シーラ
m 059 ランス様には、
m 060 沢山のものを頂いたので。
s 075 立ち／ヒューバート／ヒゲなし
m 061 そっか。
s 077 立ち／シーラ／姫服／笑顔
s 078 大統領シーラ
m 062 またどこかで……
m 063 ランス様。
m 064 …………
m 065 ……
s 079 背景／ランス城／ロビー
s 080 立ち／ランス／基本
m 066 よし、シィルのいる
m 067 ランス城まで帰ってきたぞ。
m 068 クルックー、早速どうにかするのだ。
s 082 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 069 はい、任せて下さい。
s 084 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 070 ただ、注意事項があります。
m 071 中は決して開けないで下さい。
s 086 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 072 もしランスが中を見たら失敗します。
m 073 そういう儀式です。
s 088 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 074 シィルさんは元に戻せないと
m 075 思って下さい。
s 090 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 076 む、むう、そうなのか。
m 077 なら俺様はここで待つぞ。
s 092 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 078 はい。
m 079 では、少し時間を下さい、準備します。
s 094 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 080 あ、待て。
m 081 また今回も前みたいに、
m 082 氷が溶けてもすぐ凍ったり……
s 096 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 083 しません。
m 084 今度は完全にシィルさんを出せますよ。
s 098 立ち／ランス／基本
m 085 そ、そっか、では待つぞ。
s 100 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 086 はい、では。
s 102 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 087 むう……
s 104 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 088 まだか？
s 106 立ち／アルカネーゼ／基本／困り顔
m 089 アニキ、早すぎるって……
s 108 立ち／リセット／基本
m 090 どうしたの、おとーさん？
s 110 立ち／ランス／基本
m 091 む、また遊びに来ていたのか、お前。
s 112 立ち／ランス／基本
m 092 今、シィルの氷が
m 093 溶けるのを待っているのだ。
s 114 立ち／リセット／基本
m 094 しーる？
m 095 あの、氷漬けのおねえちゃん？
s 116 立ち／ランス／基本
m 096 うむ、そうだ。
s 118 立ち／ランス／基本
m 097 あいつが閉じ込められた
m 098 氷を溶かすことこそが、
m 099 俺様がヘルマンに行った目的なのだ。
s 120 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 100 ……ついでのな。
s 122 立ち／リセット／基本
m 101 たしか、おとーさんの恋人だっけ？
s 124 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 102 ち・が・う。
m 103 あいつは俺の奴隷。
m 104 恋人ではない。
s 126 立ち／リセット／基本／がははー
m 105 いたい、いたい、
m 106 ほっぺたひっぱらないでー。
s 128 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 107 まったく……
s 130 立ち／ランス／基本
m 108 戻って来たらまず何をさせるかな。
m 109 やはり、一発濃厚な奴やるか。
s 132 立ち／リセット／基本
m 110 のーこー？
s 134 立ち／ランス／基本
m 111 いや、ちょっとお腹が空いたな。
s 136 立ち／ランス／基本
m 112 そうだ、まずは飯を作らせよう。
s 138 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 113 へんでろぱ……
m 114 そういや随分長い間食ってなかったな。
s 140 立ち／ランス／基本
m 115 おお、へんでろぱ。
m 116 なんだか懐かしい響きだ。
s 142 立ち／ランス／基本／笑顔
m 117 うむ、最初にそれだな！
m 118 がははは！
s 144 立ち／リセット／基本／がははー
m 119 がははー。
s 146 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 120 真似するな。
m 121 …………
m 122 ……
s 148 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 123 長い……
m 124 あまりにも長すぎる……
m 125 既に数時間が経過し、
m 126 アルカネーゼは部屋に戻り、
m 127 リセットはランスのそばで寝ていた。
s 150 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 128 まだなのか？
m 129 随分と時間がかかるんだな……
s 152 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 130 中を覗いてみようか……
s 154 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 131 いや、クルックーが駄目だと言ったしな。
m 132 ここは我慢……
s 156 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 133 しかし、遅すぎる……
m 134 まだか、まだなのか……
m 135 ランスはそわそわと落ち着きなく
m 136 貧乏揺すりを繰り返していた。
s 158 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 137 ランス。
s 160 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 138 シィルさんに、事情を説明して、
m 139 用意した服を着てもらいました。
m 140 もう、いい……ですよ……
s 162 立ち／クルックー／基本
m 141 あっ……
m 142 ランスはあっという間に、
m 143 シィルのいる部屋へ向かった。
s 164 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 144 扉を開ける寸前、
m 145 ランスの動きがピタリと止まる。
s 166 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 146 う、ぐ……
s 168 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 147 なんか……
m 148 緊張してきた……
s 170 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 149 最初になんと言ったらいいのだろう……
s 172 立ち／ランス／基本／だる顔
m 150 …………
s 174 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 151 ええい、くだらん。
m 152 なんで俺様が奴隷相手に
m 153 まごまごしなけりゃならんのだ。
s 176 立ち／ランス／基本／真面目
m 154 と、とーう！
m 155 …………
m 156 ……
s 178 イベ／シィル
s 179 立ち／シィル／基本
m 157 「ランス……様……」
m 158 室内には洋服を着た、
m 159 ランスの奴隷、シィル・プラインがランスを待っていた。
s 181 立ち／ランス／基本
m 160 「シィ、ル……」
m 161 久しぶりに見たシィルに、ランスが言葉を失う。
s 183 立ち／ランス／基本
m 162 （あ、う……）
s 185 立ち／ランス／基本
m 163 （氷が溶けたら色々文句を言ってやろうと思ったが……
m 164 　む、言葉が出てこないぞ……）
s 187 立ち／ランス／基本
m 165 （むぅ……）
m 166 先に、シィルが口を開いた。
s 189 立ち／シィル／基本
m 167 「助手のシィルちゃん、ただいま氷から解放されました」
s 191 イベ／シィル／差分１
m 168 　　　＜ぽかっ！＞
s 192 立ち／ランス／基本
m 169 「誰が助手だ！　誰が！」
s 194 立ち／シィル／基本
m 170 「……す、すみません、ランス様」
s 196 立ち／ランス／基本
m 171 「ったく……」
s 198 イベ／シィル／差分２
s 199 立ち／シィル／基本
m 172 「えへへ……」
s 201 立ち／ランス／基本
m 173 「ふん、それより先に……
m 174 　なんか言うことがあるんじゃないのか？」
s 203 立ち／シィル／基本
m 175 「……はい」
s 205 イベ／シィル／差分３
s 206 立ち／シィル／基本
m 176 「ランス様、ただいま！」
s 208 立ち／ランス／基本
m 177 「……
m 178 おう」
m 179 …………
m 180 ……

Pretty lame, really :/

 

[Zed]

this game you're all talking about, is it another brilliant strategy game or is it one of those shitty jrpgs?
and does it have an english translation?
edit: nvm, googled.
you guys all read japanese or something?

 

[TheEntitledOne]

The game is a TRPG, with a focus on obliterating dozens of enemies with special attacks.

Personally I use a text extractor + machine transltion combo, it gives an alien automatic translation, but at least you can understand what's going on. When the game has and interesting and heavy plot it's worth using it, not so much when the plot is just a collection of silly (like in it's predecesor).

 

[TigerKnee]

Finished the true route of R9, my thoughts.

Pros:
- Better storyline than R8, which was mostly a bunch of nothing happening.
- Good art... I guess?
- If you're a long term fan and care that Kanami and Shizuka or whoever your waifu is will finally be lovey-dovey towards Rance than this game is for you.
- Semi-lack of grinding. You can mostly get past the game without playing any of the "Free Battles" but I would say this actually depends on your item drops. Get some good drops like rare +HP items and even the weakest character turns into a tank, but get shit like the barrier cost down items and it gets tougher.
- Mission design is generally good. A lot of them tends to surprise you with "WTF" moments like suicide bomber soldiers or splitting enemies.

Cons:
- I can't think of a single stand-out music in the game. R7 had a lot of them, R8 had a lot of rocking boss themes. Most of the music in this one is "ok" in that it doesn't really get grating but nothing that makes me want to listen to it outside of the game.
- Rance himself feels kind of superfluous to the plot. He's here to provide his wacky strategies and screw some women on the side which feels so disconnected from the rest of what is happening.
- BATTLES ARE TOO SIMPLISTIC. Each character basically only have 2 moves, and one move tends to be very situational. And you can only use the specials a limited number of time so you end up with this "Super Meter bar" that tends to be filled but you can't do anything with it because you already used up your 1 shot of Rance Attack or whatever.

Funny thing is that it's mostly a Widenyo tweak which I think makes people complaining about that game being translated in the past kind of funny.

For those missions where there isn't much design done, the game becomes a very boring simple management of using your Taunt characters to Aggro, healing the tank and then picking the mooks off with your other characters. INSERT YOUR OWN JOKE ABOUT R9 BEING AN POPAMOLE MMO HERE.
- Character development too limited. You get points and you sink them into stats, and most stats are too expensive to raise to see a statistical difference outside of HP and Attack. Yawn.

- There's a "fortress building" system which basically just translates to giving you a couple of consumable "items" you can use during battle. This actually does make the battles a lot more interesting, like being able to create magic walls to form chokepoints on the battlefield or shooting lines of lasers...

But then I feel like most of the game takes place in in-door missions where you CAN'T use those powers, so WTF?

- The R8 girls were honestly kind of pointless... I mean, even more pointless than usual.

Misc:
- They really should have done this as a Grand Scale strategy game IMO. I feel like it's so dumb that 10-20 dudes are mowing down thousands of what is supposedly Helman "elite" soldiers like it was Dynasty Warriors or something.
- This must be one of the few Eroges in existence where the male cast is way better and focused on than the female cast.

Final verdict: Personally even though R8 was somewhat grindy, I had a lot more fun with it than R9. For plot R9 is better but I can't help shaking the feeling that the way the Helman story was done in Kichikuou was way more interesting.

The battle system is just too simplistic to sustain long-term play IMO, but unlike something like R4 the surrounding structure is probably the worse because it's just a linear SRPG - you read a bunch of text and get shunted off to your next mission. At least in R4 you had to explore dungeons and solve puzzles and shit even if the battle system isn't stellar.

If R10 is going to be the final game in the series I hope they get back to Grand Scale Strategy. I think that sort of gameplay makes the Rance series stand out compared to regular JRPGs or SRPGs.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

Character development too limited. You get points and you sink them into stats, and most stats are too expensive to raise to see a statistical difference outside of HP and Attack. Yawn.

Speed is expensive, but you see the diference from the beginning. And Tenacity is always important (but items have a bigger effect here).
Also, did you too miss the yellow stars? When you grow every stat by 2 points it gets a black star. Get a black star for every stat and you get a yellow star that gives another bonus (like +1 use to special or a bonus to counter, depending of the character) very useful for some characters. And you get to upgrade weapons and add items that add bonuses, a bit limited yes, but you have more to do that in the tipical +level +stat system.

And about the music, I'm not much into the music listening thing, but I found some track to be memorable, like the ending one (specially if you watched the extended ending), or the theme of some of the baddies.

I feel like it's so dumb that 10-20 dudes are mowing down thousands of what is supposedly Helman "elite" soldiers like it was Dynasty Warriors or something.

Well, you have a team of OP badasses and you are just aiming for the generals for most of the game. And having the superior mobility think of it as a form of blitzkrieg. But I really REALLY hope they go full SPRG for RX.

The R8 girls were honestly kind of pointless... I mean, even more pointless than usual.

I never liked Tillday, and Alkanese is pointless, but Crook gets some interesting parts when you unlock the full game.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60906133/ランス９_20140501_132713.jpg

Really, the only things that dissapointed me where the somewhat simplistic TRPG battles. Sure that some battles are well designed, and you have more depth that what you can notice at a first glance with all the passive actions, but still another move would have been welcome.
The other being the fortress itself. Toushin Toshi Omega is just so tiny compared to Upsilon, and can't really "fly". And doesn't add much to gameplay (maybe grinding in the bonus stages).

Edit: I'm a bit butthurt about Maria's very small role.

 

[TigerKnee]

Goddess Arisu?

I need a lore update

Shit, I can't really remember.

Appears near the end of R8 and seems to be a representative of Ludo with the same goals a.k.a make sure the world has a lot of conflict so that Ludo can have his lulz watching. Essentially gives orders to whoever the pope of the AL Church currently is. Crook is trying her best to get her not to "get rid of Rance" because he's making the world a better place.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

I wouldn't even discuss it, if not for the OP completely spoiling the grand scheme of things.

Spoiler

ALICE (not directly related to Alice the mascot) is just a bitch that appears in the expansion Rance Quest Magnum. She gives secret orders to the Pope (currently Crook) to keep the balance of the system, by sealing balance breakers and shit, like powerful items (like Chaos) or people (Rance).

The Despair must flow.

She is a 1st Class Goddess, probably the highest of the Gods known to the humans, she has no arms I think, just swords connected to her body (gives me some Lady of Pain vibes). She keeps her interventions at the minimum, since the world is more fun when things are more natural.
Very violent, for a fixation with swords. She has killed & resurrected Crook several times by now. She probably wants the conflict in Helman to turn into a fullscale war.
She is a Bonus End Boss in the expansion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ws06A7OEUI



Hell, she will likelly push things in a future to have a war with the Demon Realm. One of the IF endings suggest that Miki finally loses her shit and there is a great war against the Little Princess and her Dark Lords.

Also abnaxus, I will do a miniupdate for 4.1 today, some reipu and strategy time ahead.

 

[Haba]

Well, Miki will be needed for great drama and tragedy. And also so that we can have a decent antagonist replacing her.

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Also want to see Rance fuck Nikkou again, gahahahahaha!

 

[Haba]

RE: Ending.

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The priestess "Crook" or whatever her name is performs some ritual on her with whatever treasure Rance got in Helman, but doesn't let Rance watch (I hope there isn't anything saddy going on, like a pact with higher powers)

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My guess is that she used up her one wish*, after all. Even though Rance told her not to do it in 8.

*) The one the newly ascended Pope gets.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Crook is trying her best to get her not to "get rid of Rance" because he's making the world a better place.

Truly, rape is the only answer.

 

[Haba]

Heh, the scenes with Rance's

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daughter

in IX are quite funny.

Fully translated RQM in six years or less!

Rance Quest spoiler

 

[TigerKnee]

By the way, anyone going to create some R9 avatars and upload them to this forum?

(Not me, I'm lazy)

 

[Haba]

This is p. cool

What will be Rance's final form in X?

 

[Modron]

I like how rance's armor started sensible and migrated to boobplate + giant pauldrons.

 

[Zeriel]

Methinks you are trying a little too hard to be edgy. The design is mostly realistic for a pre-late-Middle-Ages era. Small/localized pieces of heavy plating with light reinforcement or cloth elsewhere was super common up until Knights became a dominant fixture of every battle.