Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Roguey]

Looks like the perception-dumpers will have a few months to finish up before their characters become junk.

https://youtu.be/q1_tbWTfY1I?t=2068

This took longer than 29 months.

It even had a cool line of sight system connected with it and it had penalties on stealth skills based on amount of light where you tried to go into Stealth.

These were only added with Tales of the Sword Coast. In BG it was an invisibility spell that might fail at 6 second intervals.

Baldurs Gate Fallout needed an engine to be created from scratch and Pillars Wasteland 2 had over 2 years (almost 3 if you count the delay and pre-kickstarter work). Not a valid excuse.

Fixed.

inXile has experienced programmers too; one's apparently been doing it since the 90s. Almost as if there's a bit of a problem with Unity, stealth, and time.

 

[Shevek]

More from Sawyer. Sounds like rangers will finally be more awesome:

rope kid posted:
I'm still working on ranger abilities, but I've made changes to the animal companions already:

* All animal companion weapons have 5 DR bypass.
* All animal companion armor gains 2 DR every 3 levels instead of 1.5 every 3 levels.
* They used to gain 3 Accuracy and +15% damage every 3 levels. They now gain 5 Accuracy and +20% damage every 3 levels.
* Faithful Companion was doubled to a +30 bonus vs. Charm/Confuse/Dominate with 5 seconds taken off the duration.
* Resilient Companion now adds 3 DR and an additional point of DR every 3 levels.
* Vicious Companion stacks an additional 3 DR bypass.

 

[Excidium II]

Cool. Paladins got similar love on the current patch but I don't know how much of a difference it made.

 

[Shevek]

I tested them a bit. Paladins felt much better.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Lol I finished my first playthrough with an underpowered ranger. That makes it me even more awesome and good at PoE.

Spoilers: Wild Orlan Porn

Spoiler

Fuck, make that 2 underpowered rangers, I forgot about the crazy dwarf woman. I should get the Maestro of Eternity tag.

 

[GrapeJam]

^ Fucking furry

 

[Excidium II]

Fuck, make that 2 underpowered rangers, I forgot about the crazy dwarf woman. I should get the Maestro of Eternity tag.

Palavagina too. Hiravias and GM carrying those wimps

 

[Roguey]

When you play on normal, any build will do.

I don't get why orlans are discriminated against, they look cute like mogwai.

 

[GrapeJam]

When you play on normal, any build will do.

I don't get why orlans are discriminated against, they look cute like mogwai.

Because they're fucking furries and proper races must remove furries from the premises

 

[Roguey]

Because they're fucking furries and proper races must remove furries from the premises

They're furry, but they're not furries. They don't dress that way, that's their natural fur.

 

[Immortal]

Uh no, it always had them, starting from BG1.

It's interesting how POE fans turn out to know absolutely nothing about the IE games.
http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/Thieving_Abilities
http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/pc/planescape/ability.shtml
http://www.neoseeker.com/icewinddale/faqs/101653-icewind-dale-char.html

Like I said, only one "stealth" skill up until BG2 split them as a points sink.

Who needs logic when you have fanboyism.

P. much everyone plays the BG2 ports since they became available though so it's an easy thing to get wrong

Bullshit - I have not played any of the ports - neither have most of the IE groggies I know.
They don't work well with a lot of mods and ever since the Beregost corruption thing was fixed in Tutu there's no reason to even bother.

 

[Excidium II]

P. much everyone plays the BG2 ports since they became available though so it's an easy thing to get wrong

Bullshit - I have not played any of the ports - neither have most of the IE groggies I know.
They don't work well with a lot of mods and ever since the Beregost corruption thing was fixed in Tutu there's no reason to even bother.

Masochism dealing with the move speed + pathfinding of BG1, once was enough

I am generally a purist but I am ready to make this exception

 

[Infinitron]

Bullshit - I have not played any of the ports - neither have most of the IE groggies I know.
They don't work well with a lot of mods and ever since the Beregost corruption thing was fixed in Tutu there's no reason to even bother.

I believe those are the "ports" that Excidium is talking about (Tutu, BGT)

 

[Excidium II]

I believe those are the "ports" that Excidium is talking about (Tutu, BGT)

Yes.

 

[Immortal]

I believe those are the "ports" that Excidium is talking about (Tutu, BGT)

Yes.

I thought you mean the EE?

 

[Excidium II]

You thought wrong. I personally only played TuTu because I heard BGT took some liberties

 

[Sensuki]

I don't even use BGT or Tutu

 

[Excidium II]

I don't even use BGT or Tutu

So did you write your secret engine port that actually replicates encounters and scripts with 100% accuracy or what?

Don't tell me you play vanilla BG1

 

[Sensuki]

Yeah I play vanilla BG1 on a 22" CRT monitor at 640x480 @ 160Hz

It is glorious

 

[Excidium II]

Yeah I play vanilla BG1 on a 22" CRT monitor at 640x480 @ 160Hz

It is glorious

@_@

I'd rather play vanilla for a variety of reasons, mainly purism but also things like the less-specialized weapon proficiencies, but I can't handle it. That pathfinding...that move speed...

 

[agris]

The trick is setting the fps to 40. Though I'm surprised you don't use the widescreen patch Sensuki

 

[Sensuki]

Yeah I play vanilla BG1 on a 22" CRT monitor at 640x480 @ 160Hz

It is glorious

@_@

I'd rather play vanilla for a variety of reasons, mainly purism but also things like the less-specialized weapon proficiencies, but I can't handle it. That pathfinding...that move speed...

Path Search Nodes 40000, AI Updates: 40 - that's what I use

 

[Loriac]

Not a huge thing, but I'm curious what the %hit chance shown means.

E.g. if attacker accuracy = defender deflection, the chance to hit is 50%, with an additional 35% window to graze and 15% to miss. Showing this as 50% overhead would seem a bit counterintuitive, as you can still graze on an additional 35%. I.e. only 15% of your attacks will be outright misses.

Where it would get a bit messy is say on PotD where you might see say 20% hit chance, which really translates to 55% chance to graze or hit, and 45% chance to miss outright.

Most players' experience of other games that show %hit chance is that you'd expect to see 65%+ as being reasonable odds on a given swing (ymmv on the exact boundary ofc), whereas taking purely the full hit chance in PoE could end up with lots of 20-40% chances.

Also, arguably its more relevant to see the chance to hit or graze in many cases (e.g. cc spells) because for many longer duration spells, even grazes can be sufficient for one's purposes.

Not complaining about this in any way, I'm just curious how they will present the %hit chance number so as to minimise confusion and yet still be a meaningful statistic.

 

[Excidium II]

Good point. From the video it looks like it's just your chance to score a hit or graze

 

[Sensuki]

The hit chance will probably be buggy and not work properly with % conversion weapons either, but whatever lol