Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

[ArchAngel]

It's 2 years this March since this clownshow hit early access.

Well, he's clueless and wrong.

P.S. Did they ever finishing implementing the main quest (i.e. the stuff with the Dragon Banner or whatever)? The fact that they released the game with a broken critical path, only to add a "sandbox mode" a year later, is peak Taleworlds and I will never not find it hilarious.

Nope.
The skill system is also utterly fucked still. Unless you grind like a madman your own character will NEVER be as skilled as a random noble.
They actively moved BACKWARDS in some regards, for example you can't set unit groupings manually anymore. No way to put all recruits in one group.
Economy is broken and it is basically impossible to support multiple parties without exploiting smithing.
For some reason when I split my initial group in two so my new wife could have her own party, hers costs 1000+ denars when the original 80 men I had cost only ~250. It makes no fucking sense.

Sound like you just suck at the game. I never exploited smithing in my 3 full runs so far. And only thing 1.7 changed in this category is that they reduced smithing abuse a bit.

 

[Fedora Master]

It's 2 years this March since this clownshow hit early access.

Well, he's clueless and wrong.

P.S. Did they ever finishing implementing the main quest (i.e. the stuff with the Dragon Banner or whatever)? The fact that they released the game with a broken critical path, only to add a "sandbox mode" a year later, is peak Taleworlds and I will never not find it hilarious.

Nope.
The skill system is also utterly fucked still. Unless you grind like a madman your own character will NEVER be as skilled as a random noble.
They actively moved BACKWARDS in some regards, for example you can't set unit groupings manually anymore. No way to put all recruits in one group.
Economy is broken and it is basically impossible to support multiple parties without exploiting smithing.
For some reason when I split my initial group in two so my new wife could have her own party, hers costs 1000+ denars when the original 80 men I had cost only ~250. It makes no fucking sense.

Sound like you just suck at the game. I never exploited smithing in my 3 full runs so far. And only thing 1.7 changed in this category is that they reduced smithing abuse a bit.

A well placed workshop will make about 250 denars.
Caravans are entirely unreliable.
Holdings are a drain on your finances more than a boost.

 

[Fedora Master]

Cavalry is still pretty bad too, I tested some mid-tier cav against looters and more often than not they just push them out of the way and miss their spear/lance thrusts entirely.

Although throwing javelins at least is funny with the new ragdolls:


Here is what I mean: Not a single kill and they can't even stick together after the first charge.

Spoiler

 

[ArchAngel]

It's 2 years this March since this clownshow hit early access.

Well, he's clueless and wrong.

P.S. Did they ever finishing implementing the main quest (i.e. the stuff with the Dragon Banner or whatever)? The fact that they released the game with a broken critical path, only to add a "sandbox mode" a year later, is peak Taleworlds and I will never not find it hilarious.

Nope.
The skill system is also utterly fucked still. Unless you grind like a madman your own character will NEVER be as skilled as a random noble.
They actively moved BACKWARDS in some regards, for example you can't set unit groupings manually anymore. No way to put all recruits in one group.
Economy is broken and it is basically impossible to support multiple parties without exploiting smithing.
For some reason when I split my initial group in two so my new wife could have her own party, hers costs 1000+ denars when the original 80 men I had cost only ~250. It makes no fucking sense.

Sound like you just suck at the game. I never exploited smithing in my 3 full runs so far. And only thing 1.7 changed in this category is that they reduced smithing abuse a bit.

A well placed workshop will make about 250 denars.
Caravans are entirely unreliable.
Holdings are a drain on your finances more than a boost.

As I said, you suck. Go read some online guides so you can L2P.

 

[Fedora Master]

Enlighten me then.

 

[ArchAngel]

Read guides, don't be lazy

 

[Fedora Master]

So you're talking out of your ass, got it.

 

[ArchAngel]

So you're talking out of your ass, got it.

If you are that lazy have fun losing and blaming everyone but yourself.

 

[Alter Sack]

So I finally bought the game yesterday and got immediately royally fucked up with my seven minions at the beginning by ten looters.

I must be doing something wrong.

Can't remember that something like that happened to me in the older Warband game.

 

[Spectacle]

So I finally bought the game yesterday and got immediately royally fucked up with my seven minions at the beginning by ten looters.

I must be doing something wrong.

Can't remember that something like that happened to me in the older Warband game.

It could happen in Warband as well if you weren't careful.

A good tactic for fighting looters at the start of Bannerlord is to have your recruits Advance at the start of the round, that will make them move forward in formation. Then you ride ahead on your horse and try to pull away some looters so that they reach your troops one at a time.

 

[GhostCow]

Cavalry is still pretty bad too, I tested some mid-tier cav against looters and more often than not they just push them out of the way and miss their spear/lance thrusts entirely.

Although throwing javelins at least is funny with the new ragdolls:


Here is what I mean: Not a single kill and they can't even stick together after the first charge.

Spoiler

Off topic, but since when can we embed catbox videos? Is there some trick to it?

 

[Zanzoken]

Cavalry is still pretty bad too, I tested some mid-tier cav against looters and more often than not they just push them out of the way and miss their spear/lance thrusts entirely.

...

Here is what I mean: Not a single kill and they can't even stick together after the first charge.

Spoiler

Personally I think it's fine if cavalry need micro in order to be organized into repeated charges. But the way they whiff on the lance hits is pretty bad.

 

[deuxhero]

Enlighten me then.

There's literally a skill and several perks devoted to impacting troop wage costs. Those aren't going to apply to the wive's party.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

I am Sturgian Raider faction anon. Luv raiding Buttanians to get free hero recruits to support me heavy boys.

Thank you Merchant anon! Good strong 1% wealths friend anon! I do love you anon! I do!

 

[Fedora Master]

Enlighten me then.

There's literally a skill and several perks devoted to impacting troop wage costs. Those aren't going to apply to the wive's party.

Waifu is way more skilled than my character can ever be though.

Off topic, but since when can we embed catbox videos? Is there some trick to it?

You can use [ webm ] tags to embed.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Enlighten me then.

There's literally a skill and several perks devoted to impacting troop wage costs. Those aren't going to apply to the wive's party.

Wife can get those perks.

 

[Konjad]

Off topic, but since when can we embed catbox videos? Is there some trick to it?

You can use [ webm ] tags to embed.

Let's try, because webms never worked on dex for me:

Nope doesn't work, codex doesn't see webms. I also tried to use some sites and I just get "The specified URL cannot be embedded as media."

https://webm.red/Xpc7.webm

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Konjad]

Wow, it works! Thanks, Fedora Master

 

[Jenkem]

expect big things for this game in 2022, lads

 

[Fedora Master]

expect big things for this game in 2022, lads

You mean big like "We're done with the game thx 4 your money suckers"?

 

[Fedora Master]

https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3510

Tired of AI parties getting free troops when they are defeated only to come back with doomstacks? Here's your fix. Removes the free troops lords get when they are defeated and respawn. Now they're just like you. This only affects lord parties.

 

[ArchAngel]

Cavalry is still pretty bad too, I tested some mid-tier cav against looters and more often than not they just push them out of the way and miss their spear/lance thrusts entirely.

...

Here is what I mean: Not a single kill and they can't even stick together after the first charge.

Spoiler

Personally I think it's fine if cavalry need micro in order to be organized into repeated charges. But the way they whiff on the lance hits is pretty bad.

Does not matter. They got three duties: 1. chase enemy cavarly/horse archers; 2. Smash into melee so they their AI loses it for long enough so my line of archers can pick them off ; 3. Chase down those fleeing before they can exit the map.

They do those 3 tasks well enough.

 

[ArchAngel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3510

Tired of AI parties getting free troops when they are defeated only to come back with doomstacks? Here's your fix. Removes the free troops lords get when they are defeated and respawn. Now they're just like you. This only affects lord parties.

This mod would be a big change. It would speed up the game by a lot as once you start winning , other side has no way to get back into the war. So it makes the game much easier. The factions you would decide to join as a lord would soon roll over everyone else as AI is retarded.
On the other hand you are no longer going to be fighting strong armies a lot and getting a lot of money and reputation from it. This would kill mercenary into King gameplay as by the time you are ready to become King one/two factions would become so strong you might not have a chance to survive it.

 

[ArchAngel]

I installed 1.7 once it exited the Beta, so far the game runs great and plays well even on my old PC. I am doing the mercenary into King gameplay in Sandbox mode. It should be a bit more doable now without chopping everyone head off (I done one like that where only me and my companions were fighting the whole map, takes a while and you don't even need towns but you bring them down one by one) now that you can turn your companions into lords under you.
Atm I am leveling up my skills and of few companions I got leading their own parties while I try to become rich (got about 500k atm). Once I am at about 2 million I will look at who is the weakest faction and try to capture a castle or a town from them. Then I can make my own kingdom and then lead armies with my companion parties that can actually accomplish things directly.

 

[Fedora Master]

https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3510

Tired of AI parties getting free troops when they are defeated only to come back with doomstacks? Here's your fix. Removes the free troops lords get when they are defeated and respawn. Now they're just like you. This only affects lord parties.

This mod would be a big change. It would speed up the game by a lot as once you start winning , other side has no way to get back into the war. So it makes the game much easier. The factions you would decide to join as a lord would soon roll over everyone else as AI is retarded.
On the other hand you are no longer going to be fighting strong armies a lot and getting a lot of money and reputation from it. This would kill mercenary into King gameplay as by the time you are ready to become King one/two factions would become so strong you might not have a chance to survive it.

It gets tiresome to see the same lord coming at you over and over again though. I didn't know the AI would receive free troops after being defeated, but Im not surprised.

 

[ArchAngel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3510

Tired of AI parties getting free troops when they are defeated only to come back with doomstacks? Here's your fix. Removes the free troops lords get when they are defeated and respawn. Now they're just like you. This only affects lord parties.

This mod would be a big change. It would speed up the game by a lot as once you start winning , other side has no way to get back into the war. So it makes the game much easier. The factions you would decide to join as a lord would soon roll over everyone else as AI is retarded.
On the other hand you are no longer going to be fighting strong armies a lot and getting a lot of money and reputation from it. This would kill mercenary into King gameplay as by the time you are ready to become King one/two factions would become so strong you might not have a chance to survive it.

It gets tiresome to see the same lord coming at you over and over again though. I didn't know the AI would receive free troops after being defeated, but Im not surprised.

To make sure they don't, put them in a dungeon or keep them as your prisoners and reject all deals to sell them.