Most Hated Person in the CRPG Industry

[Lockkaliber]

Hard pick. Todd is high up on that list since his games have apparently become the prime influence on the whole industry. FPS with stats is the new platformers. While it's not really his fault, I can't help but feel that he should be locked up because of his achievements. Fallout 3 and Oblivion have single-handedly decided how the cRPG genre is going to evolve in the next couple of years. With great power comes great responsibility, douchebag.

 

[Wyrmlord]

David Gaider, because even BioWare fans rage against him on the DA boards themselves.

Relatively speaking, we on the Codex have treated him nicely.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Like I said, my vote is for Peter "RPGs should be so dumbed down that a 5 month old can beat them" Molyneux.

In fairness, Moly's 'rpg'-endeavours were more overtly console-arcade-kids'-adventure than the proclaimed replacement for fallout. And Molly didn't claim that Fable 2 would be anything but a casual-focussed console game. I just can't put him in the same league as Todd; ultimately PC gaming would be no better or worse if Molyneux hadn't done the Fable games, whereas Todd's Bethesda proclaimed themselves to be the 'hardcore rpg' guys and killed / dumbed down that end of the market.


Not to mention that Moly made some truly fantastic games before he went senile - Todd doesn't have a single good game to his belt, let alone something in the league of Dungeon Keeper or Populous.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

David Gaider, because even BioWare fans rage against him on the DA boards themselves.

Relatively speaking, we on the Codex have treated him nicely.

I gotta see this. Where? My common experience of Bioware forums are people asking whether or not the character can jump and swim.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

I don't hate anyone, and Peter Molyneux seems like a very nice man with ideas. Some ideas are great, some are not, most of the ideas don't really turn out well but that's okay. I like Lionhead's games because although they're very shallow they're not boring or terrible to play. If you think they are, I think you somehow miss the point of games.

Heck, while I'm outside of my Andyman-persona, I want everyone to know that I really like The Witcher and Mass Effect! I even like Fallout 3 when it's raining and there's nothing on TV! Yeah! Take that!

 

[CreamyBlood]

While Fable I was moronic, Fable II is one of the worst games and indeed one of the worst narratives to ever be unleashed upon mankind.

How the fuck do you get through a game like Fable, let alone Fable 2? I trudged through the tutorial and made it through a level until I hit a 'big boss' that was smacking the ground. I had to look up a walkthrough to find out that I have to 'deak and dodge him'. So I did, and it worked, and I also drank about five resurection potions that I didn't know I had (must have been the big chests).

I uninstalled it.

Anyways, carry on.

 

[Black]

I don't hate anyone

Maybe you should stop being a pussy and man up a bit, huh?

 

[Ch1ef]

I don't hate anyone, and Peter Molyneux seems like a very nice man with ideas. Some ideas are great, some are not, most of the ideas don't really turn out well but that's okay. I like Lionhead's games because although they're very shallow they're not boring or terrible to play. If you think they are, I think you somehow miss the point of games.

Heck, while I'm outside of my Andyman-persona, I want everyone to know that I really like The Witcher and Mass Effect! I even like Fallout 3 when it's raining and there's nothing on TV! Yeah! Take that!

Coz you are a unicorn with a blue hair. Shut up.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

I don't hate anyone

Maybe you should stop being a pussy and man up a bit, huh?

Real men don't hate. Real men love.

Coz you are a unicorn with a blue hair. Shut up.

Hi, Johnny!

 

[Ch1ef]

Real men don't hate. Real men love.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything that you need to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Real men don't hate. Real men love.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything that you need to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

I wanna write on your face with my pretty knife
I wanna toy with your precious life
Want you to know
I want you to know what love is

 

[Ch1ef]

Real men don't hate. Real men love.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything that you need to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

I wanna write on your face with my pretty knife
I wanna toy with your precious life
Want you to know
I want you to know what love is

You tease me,
oh please me,
i want you to be my lovetoy,
come near me, don't fear me,
i just can't get enough of you boy

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Real men don't hate. Real men love.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything that you need to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

I wanna write on your face with my pretty knife
I wanna toy with your precious life
Want you to know
I want you to know what love is

You tease me,
oh please me,
i want you to be my lovetoy,
come near me, don't fear me,
i just can't get enough of you boy

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Do you love me babe?
What do you say?
Do you love me babe?
What can I say?
Because I wanna be your boyfriend

 

[Futile Rhetoric]

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

Can't watch that.

 

[Futile Rhetoric]

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

Can't watch that.

Worthless.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

Can't watch that.

Worthless.

Blocked in my country and therefore irrelevant to my interests.

 

[Futile Rhetoric]

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

Can't watch that.

Worthless.

Blocked in my country and therefore irrelevant to my interests.

http://proxymafia.net/

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Oh hey, I kinda like that video. Thumbs up.

 

[Ch1ef]

Hey little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend
Sweet little girl
I wanna be your boyfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

Well, i like little girls too.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

 

[Forest Dweller]

Herve doesn't have mush of an influence now, but what matters is what he has already done. Without him, Black Isle may still be around and be releasing quality rpgs to this day. Fallout 3 would have actually been released. Think about that.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Herve doesn't have mush of an influence now, but what matters is what he has already done. Without him, Black Isle may still be around and be releasing quality rpgs to this day. Fallout 3 would have actually been released. Think about that.

Maybe.

That's implying that Black Isle would have survived nextgen.

 

[Wyrmlord]

Herve doesn't have mush of an influence now, but what matters is what he has already done. Without him, Black Isle may still be around and be releasing quality rpgs to this day. Fallout 3 would have actually been released. Think about that.

Maybe.

That's implying that Black Isle would have survived nextgen.

Of course it would have.

As if there isn't a market for those games. Commercial constraints are not an excuse. Many so-called niche games sell very well, and previous generation computer roleplaying games are hardly "niche". They have far more of an audience than what Paradox games have.

Turn-based combat games most certainly do sell quite well enough, and the last few RPGs with turn-based combat which tanked were Ruins Of Myth Drannor and Temple Of Elemental Evil. Was it really turn-based combat which hurt those games? Or was it the bugs, and many other issues that hurt the overall package?

Really, I don't think there is any mystical barrier that indicates that a combat system well accepted in other genres is uncommercial for RPGs themselves. Or that the conventions of BIS era games, which anyway formed the conventions of even recent RPGs anyway, would be out of place in this generation.

 

[Mele ~ on Grayza]

We have to put the <s>horse</s> unicorn down. It has clearly gone insane.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

That sounds more like a best case scenario. I'm pretty sure if Black Isle was still around they'd be making third-person shooters just like Obsidian Ente--oh wait. Arcanum, the last great attempt at a classic crpg sold, what, 250 000 copies? Face it, the audience that like turn-based combat and 2d graphics are a dying generation.

edit: I'm not insane. I like to think of myself as a depressed pessimistic optimist-cynic unicorn pirate.