Completed Let's Play Europa Barbarorum (Sweboz)

[Dayyālu]

By the way, does anyone remember which EB file contains the triggers for the military reforms?

The EBBS_SCRIPT? I think it's located in EB\Data\Show me\Scripts. It is kinda easy to modify them for getting EARLIER reforms, but it should be easily modified for the opposite. Set the turns data for Marian Reforms to a later date (It should be in section 2c of the Script, MARIAN REFORMS). Set turn number to something appropriate (the standard 172 is 399 turns, I think) and then you're golden. Modify the province number needed for the reform too if ya need to do so (89 I think It's the standard for automatic Marian Reform) and then modify the Augustan reforms at your leisure.

I do not clearly understand if you need a "clean" EBBS file, and if I'm saying something useless, I beg forgiveness.

 

[Storyfag]

That's the file. However I modified mine too much for it to be easily changed to make sense, so I need a clean file.

 

[Fafnir]

Slip the dogs of bumps!

 

[Ivar the Boner]

Update 29 - Military Reform.

Spoiler

Welcome back to Let's Camp on Bridges...

This was actually quite important battle, winning it cleared road to Oxtraca for us.

And we will probably starve it because we are running low on soldiers in western Iberia.

We still have recruitment center in Turdulia. Fortunately we can recruit Lusotannan variant of Iberian troops and those guys looks great, I have nothing against Iberian soldiers, it's just their models look horrible.

Just take a look how great things went for Carthage (orange line) since they decided to threaten us. Yeah, that was really poor decision on their part. On the side note, I'm surprised how badly Ptolemaioi is doing in this campaign, I mean they are most powerful faction now but it's 191 B.C and they didn't even finished Arche Seleukeia yet, lazy fuckers.

Let's fuck Carthaginian faction rating some more.

ENSLAVE!

We have some serious happiness problems in Bratosporios. I noticed it too late and it can revolt next turn.

But Carthaginians decided to speed up our process of conquering Arse.

Arse is kinda happy but we are not taking any chances.

Goodnight sweet prince!

Bratosporios is still raging, It's not very important city but we are bulding extensive port upgrade here which costs 35K mnai... so, yeah I don't want to lose it.

So I decided to hire super-expensive mercenary army to keep it calm.

We are still arming ourselves against Norici and Boii. Mori Gaesum are newest thing in our army. They are best spearmen we can get but they are recruitable only in Helvetia so we can't recruit full stacks of them. But I will still recruit quite a few.

And then we pressed "end turn" and it's 190 B.C - time of Sweboz reform. Finally we have acces to heavy cavalry...

... And armoured infantry. This reform comes waaaaaay too fucking late to be really useful. But you know, we are crazy rich and those guys are here so why not recruit them?

But those guys are for future armies. In iberia we are still full on old-school.

This army looks dangerous, I think we will retreat.

I kinda hoped Lethriskaz will retreat to the bridge but no such luck. At least we will no longer have to fight two armies.

I would prefer hills (or a bridge...) but woods are also fine.

Phoenicians have to units of elephants and since our general can't be in two places at the same time, we have to hope both units will attack same place.

Now, don't get me wrong, Carthaginian general bodyguard (sacred band basically) are good but they are no cataphracts so they are not very dagnerous to our spearwall.

And I should just shut my whoremouth because they just went straight through our spearwall. Fortunately we had Worgozez there...

And then carthaginian skirmishers stumbled upon our hidden units.

That's a badass way to go, charging straight through wall of spears...

Herr Gisgo is dead but we still have elephants to deal with. Whole shitton of elephants.

As you might have already noticed, I don't have any idea how to fight elephants so I told my Worgozez to throw pointy shit at them and then just charge.

Ok, they are routing.

And I did something that is pretty high on a list of shit you shouldn't do - I sent our cavalry to chase elphants.

Suebic cavalry is too badass to care about "list of shit you shouldn't do". And those guys are light cav, I just can't wait when we will finally use our heavy cavalry.

Stabbing elephants is fun and all but we still have phalangites to deal with.

Worgozez got badly fucked up by 'fants so we don't have anything anti-armor.

So we just swarmed them, took losses like a men and battle is over.

I wouldn't call it "Heroic Victory". It was more like "Good for what it is Victory".

Now we can really start pushing phoenicians out of Iberia.

They have only one city in Iberia that is not under siege. Time of their fucking is nigh.

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

Do you think that the trading port upgrades are really worth it?

I have built a number of them in my campaign, and they don't really seem to make that much money, especially when you consider how long they take and how expensive they are.

 

[Storyfag]

Welcome back to Let's Camp on Bridges...

After restarting my Romani game, I camped the bridge over the Po just north of Segesta. The Aedui went forth from Mediolanum, and the slaughter wasn't even funny. Now I feel dirty.

 

[Ivar the Boner]

Do you think that the trading port upgrades are really worth it?

I have built a number of them in my campaign, and they don't really seem to make that much money, especially when you consider how long they take and how expensive they are.

No, they are not worth it but we don't have anything to do with our money so why not? We have around 4 or 5 active stacks + garrisons and we make 25K mnai per season, so we have to spend those money on something because our generals will start to get bad traits if we have too much gold in treasury.

Welcome back to Let's Camp on Bridges...

After restarting my Romani game, I camped the bridge over the Po just north of Segesta. The Aedui went forth from Mediolanum, and the slaughter wasn't even funny. Now I feel dirty.

I kinda feel bad that we destroyed romans by camping on bridges. Sure, their army was better but we could overcome their armor advantage with slingers and Worgozez/Axmen/Clubmen. But fucking Carthage with their phalanax pushing us UPHILL? nope, they can all die in a river.

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

Do you think that the trading port upgrades are really worth it?

I have built a number of them in my campaign, and they don't really seem to make that much money, especially when you consider how long they take and how expensive they are.

No, they are not worth it but we don't have anything to do with our money so why not? We have around 4 or 5 active stacks + garrisons and we make 25K mnai per season, so we have to spend those money on something because our generals will start to get bad traits if we have too much gold in treasury.

Oh. Is that why all my generals are getting gluttonous and fabulously wealthy? Is there anywhere that I can go that explains how to get certain traits in the mod?

 

[Ivar the Boner]

Do you think that the trading port upgrades are really worth it?

I have built a number of them in my campaign, and they don't really seem to make that much money, especially when you consider how long they take and how expensive they are.

No, they are not worth it but we don't have anything to do with our money so why not? We have around 4 or 5 active stacks + garrisons and we make 25K mnai per season, so we have to spend those money on something because our generals will start to get bad traits if we have too much gold in treasury.

Oh. Is that why all my generals are getting gluttonous and fabulously wealthy? Is there anywhere that I can go that explains how to get certain traits in the mod?

http://www.europabarbarorum.com/features_traits.html

There supposed to be links to HTML or powerpoint files there that explains EB traits in greater details. I actually never looked at those. But I use "EB recruitment viewer" and HTML file with unit details (even those hidden ones) that are included with EB installation.

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

Do you think that the trading port upgrades are really worth it?

I have built a number of them in my campaign, and they don't really seem to make that much money, especially when you consider how long they take and how expensive they are.

No, they are not worth it but we don't have anything to do with our money so why not? We have around 4 or 5 active stacks + garrisons and we make 25K mnai per season, so we have to spend those money on something because our generals will start to get bad traits if we have too much gold in treasury.

Oh. Is that why all my generals are getting gluttonous and fabulously wealthy? Is there anywhere that I can go that explains how to get certain traits in the mod?

http://www.europabarbarorum.com/features_traits.html

There supposed to be links to HTML or powerpoint files there that explains EB traits in greater details. I actually never looked at those. But I use "EB recruitment viewer" and HTML file with unit details (even those hidden ones) that are included with EB installation.

You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you.

 

[Ivar the Boner]

Update 30 - Dealing with Norici

Spoiler

Second anti-norici army is ready and third one is being recruited. Soon we shall see if it is even possible for me to defeat "super-strong eleutheroi".

Meanwhile, war in for Iberia is reaching and end because almost every Carthaginian possesion there is under siege. Funny thing is, I didn't even want to conquer Iberia, but hey, Carthage left us no choice with those threats.

They have only one operational full-stack and it's nowhere near Mastia so they try to relieve it with some rag-tag force.

But I seriously doubt that they will succeed.

Only scary unit they have here is sacred band cavalry (general bodyguards to be more precise) but our slingers seriously reduced them in numbers before they even reached us.

Our general is fleeing, we have no chance, why we even try, man? we are not even fucking Carthaginian... or Iberian, THE FUCK ARE WE DOING HERE?!

Ouch, their routing general just got sniped by our slingers so hard that he didn't fit on screen.

"reinforcements" arrived and we have to prepare to meet them.

That's just one unit of Iberian Assault Infantry. Those guys are very good soldiers, but still, it's just one unit.

Iberian sandwich.

Mastia is ours and Carthagnians can start thinking about going back to carthage.

ENSLAVE! they are unclean! PURGE!

Oh, it looks like Phoenicians left a gift for us in form of upgraded mines (We are stupid, dirty, barbarians*, we can't build those on our own).

* I think Sweboz are as backwards as it gets in EB. Historically germanic people in this period were half-nomads so we are severly lacking in infrastructure. We have some good roads though... in Gaul, builded by Arverni and Aeudi (celts have best infrastructure from all barbarian factions).

News at 11 - Poor fucking Armenia had to run away from Ptolemaioi farther than they had to run away from us in our Arche Seleukeia campaign.

Zis is our chance! Norici army is at Rapists Convention (Rape-Con) and vinter should allov us to take their clay almost unopposed.

German sandwich.

Shit! RUN!

FAK U WINTER Y U DO DIS?!

It can go GLORIOUS! or HORRIBLE! but either way, it will be complete clusterfuck.

I wanted to take this huge-ass hill but Norici called dibs and we have to be satisfied with this smaller one.

Unfortunately, our "reinforcements" control our heavy cavalry. Well, we will manage with what we have.

- HAVE FUN CHARGING NORICI!
- Guys, seriously...
- Don't vorry, I vill take care of Helga!
- Fuck you...

This is our biggest battle yet. More than 10 thousand men ready to stab the shit out of eachother.

Some dudes are running in our direction. I'm not sure if they are Norici or our allies and to be honest, I don't care.

We have our hill and that's our only hope.

I'm seriously surprised my pc didn't exploded yet. I made small internet research and those crashes could be video-card related. Even EB shouldn't crash that often and people said that's may be sign of video-card giving up. And I belive them, you know why? because fan on my video card died... months ago.

That's our allies... running away. Well, if Chatti are fucking bailing out it means shit is going bad.

Someone's general just died and since it was infantry dude I'm pretty sure it was general of our second army.

But we are still looking good.

Shit shall be slashed no matter what. Hills worked on Rome and Carthage, they also should work on Norici.

Our cavalry killed one of Norici general but their army is so experienced I doubt it will make any difference.

Our second army is gone and our line is getting thinner.

FAILZUG CHOO CHOO CHOO!!

Ok, let's call it a draw...

No? Well, ok.

I think it's fair to say that we got fucking bitchslapped.

DUDE, YOU JUST LOST 2 GENERALS IN ONE BATTLE. MARRY OFF ONE OF YOUR DAUGHTERS MAYBE?!

No, I refuse! They are precious to me.

And now Carthaginians tries to relieve Oxtraca. Even though our army here is quite beaten-up I think we can do this.

And we have nice wooded area in the center of the map. I like those because they make carthaginian skirmishers useless.

Carthaginian were charging straight into us but then just stopped and gave our slingers couple of free shots on their back.

I think they stopped to send some soldiers to scout the woods but their stumbled upon our hidden units.

Then general stab-fest broken out. And I'm happy with that because we managed to avoid javelin exchange.

Our "light" (they are not really light) infantry managed to rout enemy skirmishers and we can start collapsing our right flank on carthaginian center.

To my amazement, Elite African Pikemen routed after getting hit by javelins that did pretty much nothing to them.

Then this whole battle just went FUBAR for carthaginians so we just sent our cavalry to have some fun.

Some elites are still fighting but they are completely surrounded.

I think the game just took pity on me. Unfortunately we didn't get Oxtraca for this.

Goddamit, they just brought fresh army from Africa.

I'm re-raising armies that we lost but I don't have any idea how to deal with Boii to be honest (Battle with Norici was just a test, we don't need their land).

 

[Storyfag]

Maybe try building a fort, a'la Caesar? Have one army besiege the city, and another (or several other armies?) block the doomstack with a fort (or several forts?) from relieving the siege. The doomstack will besiege your own forts, but hey, shit happens, and you'll have enough time to starve out the garrison. Near the end of your main siege, you might want to engage the doomstack with a throwaway stack to relieve the siege of your fort. It'll then respawn, of course, but at worst it will only besiege your fort again, instead of starving it out.

You'll be needing 2-3 armies for this, plus a throwaway stack for breaking fort sieges. Depending on circumstances you might want to build forts with smaller garrisons, ment only to stop the doomstack for a single turn, so you have time to build siege equipment. Once that's done don't bother with relieving the siege of your fort and assault the walls. But I don't think that's the best of ideas - far better to wait them out and face a half-starved garrison.

 

[Ivar the Boner]

Maybe try building a fort, a'la Caesar? Have one army besiege the city, and another (or several other armies?) block the doomstack with a fort (or several forts?) from relieving the siege. The doomstack will besiege your own forts, but hey, shit happens, and you'll have enough time to starve out the garrison. Near the end of your main siege, you might want to engage the doomstack with a throwaway stack to relieve the siege of your fort. It'll then respawn, of course, but at worst it will only besiege your fort again, instead of starving it out.

You'll be needing 2-3 armies for this, plus a throwaway stack for breaking fort sieges. Depending on circumstances you might want to build forts with smaller garrisons, ment only to stop the doomstack for a single turn, so you have time to build siege equipment. Once that's done don't bother with relieving the siege of your fort and assault the walls. But I don't think that's the best of ideas - far better to wait them out and face a half-starved garrison.

That might have been good Idea against Norici but I don't think it will work against Boii, they have too many stacks and nice open field around their town. Well, I will keep trying and I wait for further ideas . Also, it's strange feeling, we just lost 6 thousand, expensive soldiers and my only reaction was "meh" because we are filthy rich and even Scandinavia have population of 20K dudes. If we had such losses as Arche Seleukeia it would be a huge problem because we had, I think... three recruitment centers? as Sweboz we can recruit soldiers pretty much everywhere (and pretty much every place but Iberia and Illyria have population of 15k+).

 

[Storyfag]

That might have been good Idea against Norici but I don't think it will work against Boii, they have too many stacks and nice open field around their town.

Multiple forts with expandable garrisons, then. Three forts and the Boii city itself should be enough to stop attempts at breaking the siege. Then, of course, assault the walls as soon as you produce any siege equipment. Otherwise the doomstacks will start assaulting your forts, and breaking through, since the garrisons will be small.

Variation: a besieging army, a ring of extremely undermanned forts surrounding it (like: one shitty unit each), And an army or two waiting outside that ring to jump the Boii doomstack as soon as it besieges a fort. The doomstack will of course respawn later (so maybe try not to eliminate it completely, but leave some units alive?), but it will again be stopped by the ring of forts, allowing you to continue your siege.

How many doomstacks do the Boii have, anyway? I always thought it was just one.

 

[Ivar the Boner]

That might have been good Idea against Norici but I don't think it will work against Boii, they have too many stacks and nice open field around their town.

Multiple forts with expandable garrisons, then. Three forts and the Boii city itself should be enough to stop attempts at breaking the siege. Then, of course, assault the walls as soon as you produce any siege equipment. Otherwise the doomstacks will start assaulting your forts, and breaking through, since the garrisons will be small.

Variation: a besieging army, a ring of extremely undermanned forts surrounding it (like: one shitty unit each), And an army or two waiting outside that ring to jump the Boii doomstack as soon as it besieges a fort. The doomstack will of course respawn later (so maybe try not to eliminate it completely, but leave some units alive?), but it will again be stopped by the ring of forts, allowing you to continue your siege.

How many doomstacks do the Boii have, anyway? I always thought it was just one.

Three + city garrison I think. I will try your "fort strategy" because it sounds rather good. Anyway, forts or not, we have to take Boii land "legit". I "cheated" my way through rome by camping on bridges so now we have to pay the price for it.

 

[Storyfag]

Can't wait to see how it goes. My Romani game is in its early stages, so I won't be trying it out, anytime soon myself.

Come to think of it, RTW severely lacks one option: to offer a besieged city the chance to surrender in return for not pillaging it.

 

[Ivar the Boner]

Can't wait to see how it goes. My Romani game is in its early stages, so I won't be trying it out, anytime soon myself.

Come to think of it, RTW severely lacks one option: to offer a besieged city the chance to surrender in return for not pillaging it.

Well, this can be sort-of done by trying to bribe the city. I would rather want RTW to have attrition. It seems like they wanted to do that because units have "food" stat in their EDU and there is "supply" option in preference.txt but it was never implemented unfortunately.

 

[Fafnir]

Bump

 

[Ivar the Boner]

There should be an update ready today and I will try to make it longer and more "progress oriented" because last updates were a bit on a short side (at least looking at how much in-game time passed during those).

And I think I really took care of those constant crashes by reducing resolution back to 1024x768 and changing my virtual memory, page file thingy (It was set to 3 gigs for some stupid fucking reason, I reduced it to 1).

 

[Storyfag]

In the meantime, let's bump this thread to page 7, shall we lads?

 

[Storyfag]

Come on, it's not that hard! Don't you guys want to see Ivar get raped by the Boii due to my counsel?

 

[Whitewolf]

Actually the fort strategy worked well enough for me in my campaigns, but seeing Ivar get raped deserves a bump.

 

[Storyfag]

Let's give the man another one, then!

 

[Storyfag]

Juste one more post guise.

 

[Storyfag]

Aaand we're here!