I hate jRPGs and I wanna hate-try some

[Swen]

FF7 is still king.

Also try Chrono Trigger and DQ V.


Shadow Hearts Covenant is also great.

 

[Gandalf]

FF7 is still king.

Also try Chrono Trigger and DQ V.


Shadow Hearts Covenant is also great.

Bro, dude... does it mean then... that BG3 is NOT the ultimate rpg enough to be considered the king of the western-player-friendly-jrpg world?

 

[Swen]

FF7 is still king.

Also try Chrono Trigger and DQ V.


Shadow Hearts Covenant is also great.

Bro, dude... does it mean then... that BG3 is NOT the ultimate rpg enough to be considered the king of the western-player-friendly-jrpg world?

BG3 is still king of CRPG's and overall king of RPG's in general.

FF7 is king of the JRPG niche though


Also your mind will be blown by the next Larian rpg!

 

[Dark Souls II]

Best jrpg I played this year has a little girl.

This looks epic. Like Little Witch Nobeta but with actual RPG. Makes me really excited to try experiencing the joy of training a young witch!

 

[Grauken]

Makes me really excited to try experiencing the joy of training a young witch!

yeah, we all know what kind of training you want to do

 

[Suicidal]

So many people use threads like this to recomend their personal ultra-niche games. The point is to offer games that are accessible and ease players into the genre. No one is going to be turned into a JRPG fan by fucking Dark Spire.

CVV just play Final Fantasy 7 like everyone else, for fuck's sake.

FF7 was the game that made me swear off JRPGs for several years until niche autismo games like Etrian Odyssey restored my faith and made me appreciate them more. That was long ago and I was just coming off playing CRPG greats like Fallout, Arcanum, PST, BG2. After those games, I just found FF7 boring on every conceivable level and thought "wow, are all JRPGs like this? What a shit genre". Maybe I should give it another go at some point. I noticed that I became a lot more patient with games and put more effort into meeting them halfway.

 

[CyberWhale]

Maybe I should give it another go at some point. I noticed that I became a lot more patient with games and put more effort into meeting them halfway.

Nah, if you didn't like it back then, you probably aren't going to like it now either. Stick to dungeon cralwers since there are more than planty.

 

[cvv]

CVV just play Final Fantasy 7 like everyone else, for fuck's sake.

FF7 was the game that made me swear off JRPGs for several years

I actually played FF7, must've been late 1990s. It was a very rare case of a Jappy game ported to PCs back then. P. much blew my mind, probably coz I had never played a Jap game before, everything was so new and creative.

Then again I was a teenager then, mightily impressed by a game for teenagers. Today it'd probably cringe me out. I'm planning to buy the remake when it's very cheap, just to see what's what.

 

[anvi]

I did not like FF7. But I liked an earlier one that I played long ago. I played a demo for one of those games which was awesome because it was just a bunch of tightly tuned battles. I was disappointed when I played FF7 expecting the same kind of thing but it was full of dialogue and 'exploring' and adventure game-lite stuff. I hate all that, I want to battle.

 

[Swen]

CVV just play Final Fantasy 7 like everyone else, for fuck's sake.

FF7 was the game that made me swear off JRPGs for several years

I actually played FF7, must've been late 1990s. It was a very rare case of a Jappy game ported to PCs back then. P. much blew my mind, probably coz I had never played a Jap game before, everything was so new and creative.

Then again I was a teenager then, mightily impressed by a game for teenagers. Today it'd probably cringe me out. I'm planning to buy the remake when it's very cheap, just to see what's what.

Don't, the remake is garbage.

I replayed the OG game recently, it's still amazing.

 

[Cryomancer]

FF7 forces you to play with a guy with spike hair and ridiculous sword that crossdresses himself. Hard pass.

The unique JRPGs that I liked are :
1 - SMT 3 Nocturne
2 - 7th Saga
3 - FF1/2, maybe 5.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Fine, then play Dragon's Dogma. It's so western-adjacent some people don't even consider it a JRPG. The steam version goes on sale for $5 pretty often.

Or Octopath. Open world, good combat and music, story is just vignettes offered buffet style, grab whatever characters you like and pursue their quests or don't. Also non-anime.

 

[notpl]

CVV just play Final Fantasy 7 like everyone else, for fuck's sake.

FF7 was the game that made me swear off JRPGs for several years

I actually played FF7, must've been late 1990s. It was a very rare case of a Jappy game ported to PCs back then. P. much blew my mind, probably coz I had never played a Jap game before, everything was so new and creative.

Then again I was a teenager then, mightily impressed by a game for teenagers. Today it'd probably cringe me out. I'm planning to buy the remake when it's very cheap, just to see what's what.

There is no "remake" of ff7, it's a sequel. Don't play it if you haven't played the original.

 

[Ash]

I did not like FF7. But I liked an earlier one that I played long ago. I played a demo for one of those games which was awesome because it was just a bunch of tightly tuned battles. I was disappointed when I played FF7 expecting the same kind of thing but it was full of dialogue and 'exploring' and adventure game-lite stuff. I hate all that, I want to battle.

FF7 has as much battling to offer as any other RPG, probably meeting the average. I don't get it? Slow start sure, and a part of it is how much you go looking for it (side content), but a lack of combat has never been anyone's complaint. The main issue is low difficulty, but there's a great mod for that (Hardtype).

Want to know an RPG with dire lack of combat in an otherwise great game? Arx Fatalis.

There is no "remake" of ff7, it's a sequel. Don't play it if you haven't played the original.

This. There is very little cringe in FF7. The "remake" on the other hand is pure cringe, and should have a different name entirely. They're completely different experiences.

 

[Beans00]

I did not like FF7. But I liked an earlier one that I played long ago. I played a demo for one of those games which was awesome because it was just a bunch of tightly tuned battles. I was disappointed when I played FF7 expecting the same kind of thing but it was full of dialogue and 'exploring' and adventure game-lite stuff. I hate all that, I want to battle.

FF7 has as much battling to offer as any other RPG, probably meeting the average. I don't get it? Slow start sure, and a part of it is how much you go looking for it (side content), but a lack of combat has never been anyone's complaint. The main issue is low difficulty, but there's a great mod for that (Hardtype).

Want to know an RPG with dire lack of combat in an otherwise great game? Arx Fatalis.

Ash likes jrpgs so he can look at deviant young age characters.

 

[Ash]

No one is going to be turned into a JRPG fan by fucking Dark Spire.

Someone who hates jRPGs might, FF7 is the most milquetoast recommendation, if he thought he hated jRPGs before, he certainly will know for sure after playing FF7

You say this like FF7 is typical for JRPGs, when, aside from the basic premise (e.g it's a turn-based RPG, save the world, it's Japanese), it is nothing like other JRPG. I hate most JRPG I play, but I like FF7. Because they are low effort, dumb braindead gameplay, ugly, cringe-laden. FF7 while obviously not perfect, is well above JRPG standards in almost every metric.

Eh, I suppose what you say makes exact sense. FF7 is one of the best JRPG so if he doesn't like he will hate the others more...but there are also lots of style of JRPG, you can't really generalize. There's something, at least one or two games, for everyone. About the only people excluded are those that can't live without savescumming or the principle of playing something made for dirty console peasants or whatever. And well, that's their own retardation betraying them from good experiences.

 

[Damned Registrations]

So many people use threads like this to recomend their personal ultra-niche games. The point is to offer games that are accessible and ease players into the genre. No one is going to be turned into a JRPG fan by fucking Dark Spire.

CVV just play Final Fantasy 7 like everyone else, for fuck's sake.

If you want whatever generic thing got the best marketing push to become popular, why bother asking people for opinions? When I make a thread like this, it's precisely to hear about personal ultra-niche games, to find one that fits my niche.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

If you want whatever generic thing got the best marketing push to become popular, why bother asking people for opinions? When I make a thread like this, it's precisely to hear about personal ultra-niche games, to find one that fits my niche.

You remind me of my old roommate who tried to get everyone to listen to awful indie bands that all sounded like Smashing Pumpkins except worse.

 

[Damned Registrations]

If you want whatever generic thing got the best marketing push to become popular, why bother asking people for opinions? When I make a thread like this, it's precisely to hear about personal ultra-niche games, to find one that fits my niche.

You remind me of my old roommate who tried to get everyone to listen to awful indie bands that all sounded like Smashing Pumpkins except worse.

You remind me of dozens of coworkers that listen to 'top 20 best of X decade' song lists and nothing else.

 

[Ash]

Imagine thinking FF7 is "generic" or equivalent to overplayed pop songs on the radio that don't deserve the overexposure when other songs just as good or better exist in the thousands. There was nothing like it on release, there is nothing truly like it now. The only thing that comes close is other FF from around the same time period (e.g 6).

 

[Grauken]

FF7 is a hodgepodge of ideas thrown into a blender and what came out barely holds together and the plot can be easily picked apart, yet, for all that it's entertaining from start to finish. And yeah, it's emblematic for jRPGs in the way that most of them have settings and plots that function by harebrained logic and consist of wildly inconsistent tech and magic levels often only ruled by the law of cool (for whatever the people making them thought was cool at the time).

 

[Cryomancer]

Yes, also suggesting FF7 to someone that don't like JRPGs is stupid. That person probably already heard about it and probably didn't liked.

 

[Ash]

That's where you're wrong. Many people haven't played, and many people have an idea in their heads as to what the game is, when that's not what it actually is. Others still played the first couple hours where it's fairly on rails and simple, likely not realizing it blossoms into a respectable RPG with time. Hell even half the fanbase often look at the game through a very weird distorted lens.

Stop being contrarian. FF5/6/7 are easy picks to get people into the genre, very well-rounded games, higher production values, artistry and ambitions than the competition, low cringe factor and better than...well I've not played better turn-based JRPGs.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The character models of FF7 have aged poorly, and the game falls off after the first disc. When people think of "FF7", what they are really thinking of is the dieselpunk dystopia of disc 1. There is a reason why all of the FF7 franchise stuff focuses on Midgar. No one's favorite memory is of meandering around aimlessly in disc 2. Later JRPGs have both better aesthetics and a more uniformly good experience that lasts beyond just the intro arc. FF10, Xenoblade 1, Trails of Cold Steel, etc. I would hesitate to recommend any of the PS1 FFs as your very first JRPG since all three of them fall off after a few hours in, but if I had to pick one then it would have to be FF9 since it's good for two discs and it looks the best. To be clear, they're not bad and they are worth playing, but they are not the best representation of the genre to newcomers nowadays.

 

[Cryomancer]

Others still played the first couple hours where it's fairly on rails and simple, likely not realizing it blossoms into a respectable RPG with time.

I hate ANY game that forces me to play as a crossdressing dude with spyke hair and oversized sword. If FF7 had character creation, would be better.

FF5 in other hands allows you to play as a necromancer https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Necromancer_(Final_Fantasy_V_job)

And has a better class system.

Among JRPGs, my favorite so far is SMT-3 Nocturne. Is like Demon pokemon where the MC can also use demoniac powers. Great premise and great execution. IMO if the op didn't liked the typical JRPG, he should try SMT3 Nocturne.