KickStarter Homeworld 3 from Blackbird Interactive

[Yaar Podshipnik]

Interesting how in that first trailer Imogen doesn't look like the PhD story managing director

 

[Tyranicon]

The cowards took down the interview with the narrative director. I've seen it get linked everywhere, especially on steam. Hilarious that they thought anybody would be interested in it for reasons other than mocking it.

The writing was on the wall even last year.

One of Blackbird Interactive's unique strengths is boasting an in-house cinematics team filled with some of the brightest, most visionary artists from film, television, and games. And from the outset we wanted to leverage their talent to tell a Homeworld story with a human intimacy never seen in the series before.

 

[Hydro]

Anybody’s tracking how it performs in terms of copies sold, people online? Can’t be arsed, but curious to see if it’s flopping. After all it’s the sales that matter.

 

[Tyranicon]

Anybody’s tracking how it performs in terms of copies sold, people online? Can’t be arsed, but curious to see if it’s flopping. After all it’s the sales that matter.

I don't think the public knows where the flop point is for this game. The game is arguably AAA, and the devs (BBI) allegedly had 330 employees and worked on the game for 7 years. It's also published by Gearbox.

From these simple facts we can assume that a lot of money was spent on the game. Here are the steamdb stats for the first week:

For a triple A game, this is horrible.

However, if their budget was closer to a AA game, it's not as bad.

Who knows? But I heavily doubt that this launch is considered a success by any metric.

 

[Caim]

Being a sequel to a niche game that is already in a niche subcategory of a less than mainstream genre meant that Homeworld 3 was never going to sell gangbusters but holy shit this is bad.

 

[Hydro]

For a triple A game, this is horrible.

It also received an initial funding on Fig I believe. It’s almost funny how people backing memberberries projects get dumped all over again. Did anybody address this at all after the release?

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

For a triple A game, this is horrible.

It also received an initial funding on Fig I believe. It’s almost funny how people backing memberberries projects get dumped all over again. Did anybody address this at all after the release?

Last I heard, backers were kinda sorta abandoned after a while?

 

[Raghar]

500 billions on graphics and marketing.

50 bucks on writing.

People with passion get monthly salaries for programming, and they are writing for free.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

The cowards took down the interview with the narrative director. I've seen it get linked everywhere, especially on steam. Hilarious that they thought anybody would be interested in it for reasons other than mocking it.

https://web.archive.org/web/2024051...g-director-of-narrative-properties-lin-joyce/

Nothing is ever deleted on the internet.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Managing Director of Narrative Properties

Jesus H Christ the clown train has no brakes. From now on I'm calling the gardener Chief Senior Executive Vice President of Horticultural Affairs (Asia Pacific).

 

[RobotSquirrel]

It's funny how people always talk about how expensive AAA games are to make these days

More funny because its not even a quality issue. AAA art can be easily produced, I've done it, Characters and all.
The cost is purely from mismanagement and a constant need to rush. Because they're rushing they end up costing double and taking twice as long. It's so stupid.
Fucking Agile. whoops we fucked up, whoops we fucked up again, whoops aw fuck it just release the damn thing we can just patch it later check out this awesome road map and apology, whoops we fucked up the patch quick release a TV show that'll shut em up.

Rational approach will always work better for game development in my opinion, but I'm biased af.

 

[Tyranicon]

It's funny how people always talk about how expensive AAA games are to make these days

More funny because its not even a quality issue. AAA art can be easily produced, I've done it, Characters and all.
The cost is purely from mismanagement and a constant need to rush. Because they're rushing they end up costing double and taking twice as long. It's so stupid.
Fucking Agile. whoops we fucked up, whoops we fucked up again, whoops aw fuck it just release the damn thing we can just patch it later check out this awesome road map and apology, whoops we fucked up the patch quick release a TV show that'll shut em up.

Rational approach will always work better for game development in my opinion, but I'm biased af.

Yeah, having seen how the sausage is made, you get the sense that bigger game studios are even more incompetent than your average corpo environment.

Which is alarming and hilarious.

 

[mediocrepoet]

50 bucks on writing.

They overpaid.

 

[Carceri]

Jesus, what a shitshow! In all fairness, the game kinda looked like a scam since that Fig fundraising.

 

[catchaser]

How surprising...

 

[Raghar]

The original HWI was decent because writers were also a programmers. HW3 has strange disassociation between writing and actual game.

That older cutscene looks like a standard pre-production video. Basically you can see in front of these two "white?" crewmembers, there is some main character. (Later you can see someone that might be black, but they might be just drawn black because they wanted yellow/white suits and they needed contrast for Black and White sketch.)

Basically Homeworld was devolution not only because of throwing people of different skin color into main cast just because developers for some weird reason are obsessed with them. (Is there white phobia in the industry? Make everyone brownie in HW3 and call it a consequence of a horrible viral skin disease that is plaguing the world after end of HW2. No problem, you get rid of skin color you hate and you'd make a game without distractions. They might even find a cure in HW4 when being white will not be a crime (in media industry).)

But the logical conclusion is: They wanted the story and gameplay monstrosity which they are calling HW3.

 

[Talby]

I've been having a fun time replaying Homeworld 1 (original, not the remake version) the past few days. It still grabs you like it did when you first played it after witnessing Kharak be destroyed. Total Taiidan Death.

 

[Hydro]

Can anybody confirm this. I remember the original one being much harder than the remake. There was that particular mission in the original with hostile ships in a huge sphere formation and they absolutely obliterated me, I remember struggling with this mission for far too long. In the remake though it was walk in a park.

 

[jebsmoker]

Can anybody confirm this. I remember the original one being much harder than the remake. There was that particular mission in the original with hostile ships in a huge sphere formation and they absolutely obliterated me, I remember struggling with this mission for far too long. In the remake though it was walk in a park.

that mission is considerably harder in og homeworld 1, although it's still fairly easy if you zero in on kadeshi fuel pods and just eliminate them completely in order to paralyze the fighters

 

[Hydro]

Can anybody confirm this. I remember the original one being much harder than the remake. There was that particular mission in the original with hostile ships in a huge sphere formation and they absolutely obliterated me, I remember struggling with this mission for far too long. In the remake though it was walk in a park.

that mission is considerably harder in og homeworld 1, although it's still fairly easy if you zero in on kadeshi fuel pods and just eliminate them completely in order to paralyze the fighters

I see, thanks. At the time of playing the original one I didn’t exercise any particularly sophisticated tactic trying to overwhelm them with brute force, and I remember this having pretty disastrous consequences for my meticulously assembled fleet.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

It‘s crazy how they messed up the remaster. At least they had the decency to imclude the originals. Is it confirmed the the Homeworld 1 Classic edition that comes with the remaster is the original, unaltered game except for compatiblity upgrades? Last time I played HW1 a few years ago was from the original CD release.

 

[jebsmoker]

It‘s crazy how they messed up the remaster. At least they had the decency to imclude the originals. Is it confirmed the the Homeworld 1 Classic edition that comes with the remaster is the original, unaltered game except for compatiblity upgrades? Last time I played HW1 a few years ago was from the original CD release.

the digital re-release of homeworld 1 classic is mostly unaltered except for two caveats: the yes song is gone due to copyright reasons, and it doesn't support .big file mods anymore for some reason

 

[Quatlo]

It‘s crazy how they messed up the remaster. At least they had the decency to imclude the originals. Is it confirmed the the Homeworld 1 Classic edition that comes with the remaster is the original, unaltered game except for compatiblity upgrades? Last time I played HW1 a few years ago was from the original CD release.

Remaster acidentally fixed HW2 because of the fan patch, with ballistics and formations its finally a good game and not generic rts pretending to be 3d.

 

[DesolationStone]

It‘s crazy how they messed up the remaster. At least they had the decency to imclude the originals. Is it confirmed the the Homeworld 1 Classic edition that comes with the remaster is the original, unaltered game except for compatiblity upgrades? Last time I played HW1 a few years ago was from the original CD release.

There is also a source port of the original one, even on browser!

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Can anybody confirm this. I remember the original one being much harder than the remake. There was that particular mission in the original with hostile ships in a huge sphere formation and they absolutely obliterated me, I remember struggling with this mission for far too long. In the remake though it was walk in a park.

Wait, you mean you didn't attempt to steal all of them? I remember grabbing half of them before the sphere of warships somehow drifted outside the map boarders and I couldn't reach the end.