Historical Revisionism in Video Game and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[Dave the Druid]

It was Super Mario Bros. by Nintendo.

He doesn't know Donkey Kong was the first video game ever

 

[Viata]

It was Super Mario Bros. by Nintendo.

He doesn't know Donkey Kong was the first video game ever

Pretty sure Rare only released Donkey Kong Country after the SNES was released.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

You likely have never heard of, let alone tasted your favourite meal humanity has ever cooked.

Completely irrelevant.
A "hidden gem" is a game that the majority didn't consider worthwhile when it came out, and then considered worthwhile some time after that.
Its also how most "cult classic" movies come to be. Its also how much of the famous painters were perceived. Such revision of old stances is normal, and people demonizing it are just being hipsters, acting contrarian to appear cool. Dorks.

You are seriously retarded if you can't tell the difference between a game being known and unpopular and a game being HIDDEN and people not having opinions on it til years or decades later.

You have been whydoibothered.

It was not "hidden", it was there all along. You just didn't see it. Debunked.

 

[Athena]

It was Super Mario Bros. by Nintendo.

 

[Dave the Druid]

It was Super Mario Bros. by Nintendo.

Wow, 1974. What a year. Watergate AND Super Mario Bros in the same year?!

 

[whydoibother]

You likely have never heard of, let alone tasted your favourite meal humanity has ever cooked.

Completely irrelevant.
A "hidden gem" is a game that the majority didn't consider worthwhile when it came out, and then considered worthwhile some time after that.
Its also how most "cult classic" movies come to be. Its also how much of the famous painters were perceived. Such revision of old stances is normal, and people demonizing it are just being hipsters, acting contrarian to appear cool. Dorks.

You are seriously retarded if you can't tell the difference between a game being known and unpopular and a game being HIDDEN and people not having opinions on it til years or decades later.

You have been whydoibothered.

It was not "hidden", it was there all along. You just didn't see it. Debunked.

A "hidden gem" is a game that was deemed by The Culture to be not worthwhile at first, and is being revised by The Culture as now being worthwhile at a later date. Do you disagree? Congratulations, you are wrong. Being wrong is not shameful, its nothing to worry about. Just be aware of your wrongness, you wrong retard.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

And now I have been whydoibothered too.

The Culture decided it was a hidden gem, because they are paranoid people who think there are secret groups manipulating popularity from the shadows and hiding their games from the spotlight. There is no conspiracy and the real world is not that interesting, sweet tits. We must however stay vigilant, because The Culture is trying to change gaming history.

 

[whydoibother]

^ i look like that and say that

 

[Viata]

You likely have never heard of, let alone tasted your favourite meal humanity has ever cooked.

Completely irrelevant.
A "hidden gem" is a game that the majority didn't consider worthwhile when it came out, and then considered worthwhile some time after that.
Its also how most "cult classic" movies come to be. Its also how much of the famous painters were perceived. Such revision of old stances is normal, and people demonizing it are just being hipsters, acting contrarian to appear cool. Dorks.

You are seriously retarded if you can't tell the difference between a game being known and unpopular and a game being HIDDEN and people not having opinions on it til years or decades later.

You have been whydoibothered.

It was not "hidden", it was there all along. You just didn't see it. Debunked.

You have no idea how much I'm laughing at this.

 

[Louis_Cypher]

In the "Soul vs Soulless" thread, Cat Headed Eagle, Falksi and Halfling Rodeo mentioned something I thought was quite interesting. Something we all kinda know, but might be worth picking apart. That 'historical revisionism' by the 'mainstream media', had inflated the importance of Nintendo, while screwing over the real history of the video game hobby. Thread worthy idea. I didn't notice that Halfling Rodeo had made this follow-up thread, and haven't had time to contribute yet.

I came across a japanese forum where they asked what was the point where gaming died, and the unanimous answer was when Sega stepped down as a major player in the game.

You see this but you also forget how Nintendo had to prove things to the public because of Sega. They wanted to show off that the SNES/Super Famicom was a powerful machine, especially after Sega was seen as the technical innovator and "edgy kid" of the gaming world. Project Ultra 64 (later rebranded as Nintendo 64) was being delayed time and time again so the major thing about late stage SNES was how great their arcade ports were, with Killer Instinct and all. I came across a japanese forum where they asked what was the point where gaming died, and the unanimous answer was when Sega stepped down as a major player in the game. Sega was Nintendo's rival.

Absolutely spot on. That competition helped drive the industry to new peaks.

More-so, the SEGA philosophy (especially SEGA of America) was to get ahead by giving the player the best product available. Yes they were obviously a business and weren't averse to the odd skanky practice, but they believed that the better the product the better the sales.

Since SEGA fell from grace Nintendo have been able to rely on milking a very blinkered and loyal fanbase without any real effort beyond "here's a new Zelda/Mario" every few years. Hell, some of their fanboys are still telling people to buy a Switch over a Steam Deck

Since SEGA fell from grace Nintendo have been able to rely on milking a very blinkered and loyal fanbase without any real effort beyond "here's a new Zelda/Mario" every few years. Hell, some of their fanboys are still telling people to buy a Switch over a Steam Deck

It's hard to judge Sega/Nintendo because it's very regional. The Master system smoked the NES in many regions while it barely existed in others.

Yeah, coming from the UK it's weird as fuck seeing the NES worshipped so much by some quarters. As a kid everyone I knew, including myself, thought it was shit and a distant 2nd to the Master System.

It's fucking criminal how overlooked systems like the Amiga and C64 are by the mainstream media who re-write history with Nintendo bias. The amount of times I've read bullshit such as "Nintendo invented the analogue joypad" or "Nintendo invented shoulder buttons on gamepads" is unreal lol.

I think this is something that might be interesting to mine for effort posts, or maybe correct the historical record or something. Not just Sega falling victim to the mainstream media, but perhaps something else wider, too obvious to the Codex to even mention; how console-only Nintendo-centric MSM journalists famously tend to ignore PC entirely, the richest, oldest, and the most prolific gaming platform of them all. Perhaps thats a well-trod topic, discussed elsewhere before, but I haven't heard it thrashed out in a while, not in the specific context of 'Nintendo-worship among journalists'.

This is what Wikipedia has to say, in it's introductory paragraph, from the article "1994 in video games":

Hmm, I sense there is something missing here. Oh yeah, just this monsterous fucking thundercock wielding GOAT:

So... the paragraph only missed any mention of a serious contender for 'greatest PC game ever made'. What else was released on PC that year?

Plus stuff like Warcraft 1, Wing Commander 3, Heretic, the Elder Scrolls 1, Theme Park. Out of interest "1992 in video games" doesn't mention Ultima: Underworld at all in it's introductory pararaph - I'm sure they are all like that. Here is a simple question to start with: What the causes the MSM, as well as random Wikipedia contributors, to be so biased toward consoles, and Nintendo arguably? PC gaming too complex? Lower PC sales? PC was niche hardware? Console players did journalism studies degrees?

 

[Nutmeg]

What the causes the MSM, as well as random Wikipedia contributors, to be so biased toward consoles, and Nintendo arguably?

Cultural capitalism

 

[Louis_Cypher]

Here is a proposition:

"1994 in PC games", by itself, alone, featuring X-Com, Doom 2, System Shock 1, Jagged Alliance 1, Wing Commander III, TIE Fighter, Warcraft 1, Theme Park, Dark Sun, Ultima VIII, Ravenloft, Panzer General, et al, is better / more important than the N64's entire 6-year library of 388 games, including Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong 64, et al. I don't think that is even too controversial honestly.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

Plus stuff like Warcraft 1, Wing Commander 3, Heretic, the Elder Scrolls 1, Theme Park. Out of interest "1992 in video games" doesn't mention Ultima: Underworld at all in it's introductory pararaph - I'm sure they are all like that. Here is a simple question to start with: What the causes the MSM, as well as random Wikipedia contributors, to be so biased toward consoles, and Nintendo arguably? PC gaming too complex? Lower PC sales? PC was niche hardware? Console players did journalism studies degrees?

I played shit loads of Theme park on the Mega Drive. I think I borrowed it from my cousin.

"1994 in PC games", by itself, alone, featuring X-Com, Doom 2, System Shock 1, Jagged Alliance 1, Wing Commander III, TIE Fighter, Warcraft 1, Theme Park, Dark Sun, Ultima VIII, Ravenloft, Panzer General, et al, is better / more important than the N64's entire 6-year library of 388 games, including Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong 64, et al. I don't think that is even too controversial honestly.

Most of these got console ports as well didn't they? Are they mentioned on the relevant year that way?

 

[Azdul]

People have blind spots when it comes to videogame history - and sometimes derivative title released few years later on their favorite (or simply cheaper) platform is seen as major revelation.

Original titles released in Japanese arcades, on Apple II or ZX Spectrum went unnoticed by general public beyond their niche.

Nintendo was relevant for a short while during N64 era - e.g. Super Mario 64 was an important title. Since then - they are clinging to the past glory with group of people that had grown up during their successful years. I suppose many of aging hardcore fans do not play anything outside Nintendo - that's why THQ Nordic was able to release Gothic 1 in 2023 on Switch.

Look - Nintendo invented modern RPG with Gothic. Sony or Microsoft fanboys cannot hope to experience such level of RPG sophistication on their inferior consoles.

 

[Vic]

This is what Wikipedia has to say, in it's introductory paragraph, from the article "1994 in video games":

learn to read, that paragraph talks about sequels and prequels. Neither X-COM, Warcraft nor Arena were sequels or prequels but the first in the series.

There is no revisionism only butthurt by sega fanbooys.

 

[Louis_Cypher]

learn to read, that paragraph talks about sequels and prequels.

You might wanna read the passage around the last three comma marks, for context.

 

[Vic]

learn to read, that paragraph talks about sequels and prequels.

You might wanna read the passage around the last three comma marks, for context.

so? was X-COM more popular than Tekken? PC was more of a niche back then because PCs were expensive, a PC in the 90s cost you $3-$4k without adjusting for inflation, so probably equivalent of $6k+ today, the PS1 launched at $299

 

[Morgoth]

Gaming is moving forward at crawl speed, whereas gaming culture is regressing at light speed.

 

[whydoibother]

Gaming is moving forward at crawl speed, whereas gaming culture is regressing at light speed.

There is no Gaming Culture, because there is no Gaming Community. There are many separate communities with their own cultures.

 

[Morgoth]

Gaming is moving forward at crawl speed, whereas gaming culture is regressing at light speed.

There is no Gaming Culture, because there is no Gaming Community. There are many separate communities with their own cultures.

 

[Louis_Cypher]

DOS and Amiga history has been all but invalidated where anything not called Doom is unknown and a novelty for Twitch streamers to play when GoG releases it.

In recent years, the PC and console market has merged somewhat, eroding the "PC master race" identity that peaked in the 1990s, when the PC was solid gold in terms of exclusive releases. The effect however hasn't been to induct all those Windows and DOS classics into the clickbait MSM lists. No, the MSM lists still place things like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time prominently, without inserting the PC stuff consoles couldn't even handle. They just continue to ignore PC history up until the recent merger of markets in the 7th and 8th console generations - as if the PC gaming scene started around 2007 - their clickbait top 100 games lists still barely mention the PC GOATs. Just a cursory look at a couple of lists:

The Top 100 Video Games of All Time (IGN, 2021):​

100. Borderlands 2​

99. Divinity: Original Sin 2​

98. Final Fantasy VII​

97. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag​

96. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge​

95. Burnout 3: Takedown​

94. Fallout 2​

93. League of Legends​

92. Mega Man 3​

91. Animal Crossing: New Horizons​

90. Thief II: The Metal Age​

89. SimCity 2000​

88. Inside​

87. Titanfall 2​

86. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2​

85. Monster Hunter: World​

84. Resident Evil 2 (Remake)​

83. System Shock 2​

82. Mortal Kombat 11​

81. Persona 5 Royal​

80. Dark Souls​

79. Fortnite​

78. Fable 2​

77. GoldenEye 007​

76. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate​

75. Spelunky 2​

74. Return of the Obra Dinn​

73. Dota 2​

72. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe​

71. Donkey Kong​

70. The Sims 3​

69. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory​

68. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island​

67. Silent Hill 2​

66. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas​

65. XCOM 2​

64. Control​

63. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare​

62. Rise of the Tomb Raider​

61. Batman: Arkham City​

60. Dishonored 2​

59. The Witness​

58. Journey​

57. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves​

56. Overwatch​

55. Apex Legends​

54. Hollow Knight​

53. Ms. Pac-Man​

52. Counter-Strike 1.6​

51. Left 4 Dead 2​

50. EarthBound​

49. Diablo II​

48. StarCraft​

47. World of Warcraft​

46. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic​

45. Fallout: New Vegas​

44. Final Fantasy VI​

43. Pokémon Yellow​

42. Metroid Prime​

41. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim​

40. Resident Evil 4​

39. Shadow of the Colossus​

38. The Last of Us Part 2​

37. Red Dead Redemption​

36. Metal Gear Solid​

35. Sid Meier's Civilization IV​

34. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time​

33. Minecraft​

32. Halo: Combat Evolved​

31. Half-Life​

30. Final Fantasy XIV​

29. Doom​

28. Tetris​

27. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater​

26. Half-Life: Alyx​

25. God of War​

24. Chrono Trigger​

23. Portal​

22. Street Fighter II​

21. Super Mario Bros.​

20. Undertale​

19. Bloodborne​

18. BioShock​

17. The Last of Us​

16. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt​

15. Halo 2​

14. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night​

13. Hades​

12. Grand Theft Auto V​

11. Super Mario Bros. 3​

10. Disco Elysium​

9. Half-Life 2​

8. Red Dead Redemption 2​

7. Super Mario 64​

6. Mass Effect 2​

5. Super Metroid​

4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past​

3. Portal 2​

2. Super Mario World​

1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild​

The one at the top of Google, by GQ magazine, is similar. Pretty much as expected, a couple of famous PC titles, but complete ignorance of anything earlier than the 2000s, barring things like Doom and Half-Life. No X-Com, no Deus Ex, no Planescape, no Ultima Underworld, no Dark Forces, no Elite, no Command & Conquer, no Sid Meier's, no Thief, no Wing Commander, no Master of Orion, no Wizardry, no Ultima, no Quake, etc, etc.

How much of our current history do you think is accurate and what are your personal stories of history now forgotten or warped?

A personal one for me, is how the 1980s-2000s produced about 40 solid Star Trek games, many of them very good still. They are almost always ignored, although 'Star Trek: Judgment Rites' has been somewhat recognised in recent years, partly due to the efforts of fans. It's galling to go on YouTube and listen to some Trekkie pick a bunch of post-2000s crap and think that these were the best ones.

 

[Falksi]

Funnily enough, I've just partaken in a conversation on Facebook which went as follows:

OP: What system should I get next?

Nintendo Fanboys: SwItCh!!

Me: But it's outdated and far less powerful than it's rivals. Plus the software for it is far more expensive than on other systems too. After the initial hardware outlay, you're usually paying more for less.

Nintendo Fanboys: BuT NiNteNdo ExClusIveS aRe da BEST!!"

Me: But you can emulate those on other systems, other systems which have more games available than the Switch does too.

Nintendo Fanboys: YeaH, bUt thaTs ILLEGAL!!

Me: Anyone in their right mind doesn't give a fuck about multi-billion dollar corporations coining it it. By all means support smaller devs, but worrying about Nintendo not getting your money is like worrying about England not getting enough rain.

Nintendo Fanboys: BuT I LiKe My GaMeS pOrtabLe!

Me: Steam Deck

Nintendo Fanboys:

Honestly, it's fucking pathetic. It was just sad copes from fanboys desperately trying to spread their religion; there's hardly any objectivity with hardcore Nintendo fans to the point where it almost feels like a cult. It's a collective of America's most retarded people all sharing the same hobby and poisoning it for the rest of us.

I mean, folk are focusing on the SEGA Vs Nintendo debate, but it extends everywhere as highlighted in Louis_Cypher 's post above. I bought Starfox as a kid, enjoyed it for like 3 days, then grew bored because of it because it felt slow and was too easy. It was novel but not a particularly great game. Fast forward a few weeks and X-Wing blew me away, couldn not stop playing t for months, WAY better than Starfox...but which gets recognition? Starfox.

Goldneye is the same. Sure, it bought multiplayer FPS gaming to console-only players, which is cool, but I had a similar experience with it as I did Starfox. I bought it, really enjoyed it for a short while, then got Hexen 2 a short while afterwards and Quake 2 a short while after that and both showed Goldeneye up to be pretty mediocre by comparison. Normies will wax lyrical about Goldeneye's 4-player awesomeness, then dismiss those of us who were LAN'd up on Hexen 2 or Quake with often double that amount of players.

I mean, this is the type of shit they spout...

 

[Falksi]

DOS and Amiga history has been all but invalidated where anything not called Doom is unknown and a novelty for Twitch streamers to play when GoG releases it.

In recent years, the PC and console market has merged somewhat, eroding the "PC master race" identity that peaked in the 1990s, when the PC was solid gold in terms of exclusive releases. The effect however hasn't been to induct all those Windows and DOS classics into the clickbait MSM lists. No, the MSM lists still place things like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time prominently, without inserting the PC stuff consoles couldn't even handle. They just continue to ignore PC history up until the recent merger of markets in the 7th and 8th console generations - as if the PC gaming scene started around 2007 - their clickbait top 100 games lists still barely mention the PC GOATs. Just a cursory look at a couple of lists:

The Top 100 Video Games of All Time (IGN, 2021):​

100. Borderlands 2​

99. Divinity: Original Sin 2​

98. Final Fantasy VII​

97. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag​

96. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge​

95. Burnout 3: Takedown​

94. Fallout 2​

93. League of Legends​

92. Mega Man 3​

91. Animal Crossing: New Horizons​

90. Thief II: The Metal Age​

89. SimCity 2000​

88. Inside​

87. Titanfall 2​

86. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2​

85. Monster Hunter: World​

84. Resident Evil 2 (Remake)​

83. System Shock 2​

82. Mortal Kombat 11​

81. Persona 5 Royal​

80. Dark Souls​

79. Fortnite​

78. Fable 2​

77. GoldenEye 007​

76. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate​

75. Spelunky 2​

74. Return of the Obra Dinn​

73. Dota 2​

72. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe​

71. Donkey Kong​

70. The Sims 3​

69. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory​

68. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island​

67. Silent Hill 2​

66. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas​

65. XCOM 2​

64. Control​

63. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare​

62. Rise of the Tomb Raider​

61. Batman: Arkham City​

60. Dishonored 2​

59. The Witness​

58. Journey​

57. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves​

56. Overwatch​

55. Apex Legends​

54. Hollow Knight​

53. Ms. Pac-Man​

52. Counter-Strike 1.6​

51. Left 4 Dead 2​

50. EarthBound​

49. Diablo II​

48. StarCraft​

47. World of Warcraft​

46. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic​

45. Fallout: New Vegas​

44. Final Fantasy VI​

43. Pokémon Yellow​

42. Metroid Prime​

41. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim​

40. Resident Evil 4​

39. Shadow of the Colossus​

38. The Last of Us Part 2​

37. Red Dead Redemption​

36. Metal Gear Solid​

35. Sid Meier's Civilization IV​

34. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time​

33. Minecraft​

32. Halo: Combat Evolved​

31. Half-Life​

30. Final Fantasy XIV​

29. Doom​

28. Tetris​

27. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater​

26. Half-Life: Alyx​

25. God of War​

24. Chrono Trigger​

23. Portal​

22. Street Fighter II​

21. Super Mario Bros.​

20. Undertale​

19. Bloodborne​

18. BioShock​

17. The Last of Us​

16. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt​

15. Halo 2​

14. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night​

13. Hades​

12. Grand Theft Auto V​

11. Super Mario Bros. 3​

10. Disco Elysium​

9. Half-Life 2​

8. Red Dead Redemption 2​

7. Super Mario 64​

6. Mass Effect 2​

5. Super Metroid​

4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past​

3. Portal 2​

2. Super Mario World​

1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild​

The one at the top of Google, by GQ magazine, is similar. Pretty much as expected, a couple of famous PC titles, but complete ignorance of anything earlier than the 2000s, barring things like Doom and Half-Life. No X-Com, no Deus Ex, no Planescape, no Ultima Underworld, no Dark Forces, no Elite, no Command & Conquer, no Sid Meier's, no Thief, no Wing Commander, no Master of Orion, no Wizardry, no Ultima, no Quake, etc, etc.

How much of our current history do you think is accurate and what are your personal stories of history now forgotten or warped?

A personal one for me, is how the 1980s-2000s produced about 40 solid Star Trek games, many of them very good still. They are almost always ignored, although 'Star Trek: Judgment Rites' has been somewhat recognised in recent years, partly due to the efforts of fans. It's galling to go on YouTube and listen to some Trekkie pick a bunch of post-2000s crap and think that these were the best ones.

That's such a scarily bad list, and 4 of the top 5 games being Nintendo exclusives tells you all you need to know about the bias. How Deus Ex, X-Com, Quake, Thief, Planescape etc. don't make the cut is unreal.

What's even more scary is the fact that some genres aren't even represented. There's not ONE SHMUP or Beat 'Em Up on there for example, whether they are your personal bag or not the 80's were built around those genres and Streets of Rage 4 has eaten up more of my time last year than most of the modern releases included in there.

Also, you've 3 Mario platformers and 2 Zelda games in the top 11 alone, yet not one Sonic game in the entire 100 The bias is incredible.

 

[Louis_Cypher]

I bought Starfox as a kid, enjoyed it for like 3 days, then grew bored because of it because it felt slow and was too easy. It was novel but not a particularly great game. Fast forward a few weeks and X-Wing blew me away, couldn not stop playing t for months, WAY better than Starfox...but which gets recognition? Starfox.

This is exactly the kind of thing. Perfect example.

I don't even think about it very much, because we are so used to this bias, but fucking Starfox having more general recognition than the X-Wing/TIE Fighter series, Elite series, Freelancer, Starfleet/Klingon Academy, Descent/Freespace series, or Wing Commander series is an actual absurdity.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

Nintendo was relevant for a short while during N64 era - e.g. Super Mario 64 was an important title. Since then - they are clinging to the past glory with group of people that had grown up during their successful years. I suppose many of aging hardcore fans do not play anything outside Nintendo - that's why THQ Nordic was able to release Gothic 1 in 2023 on Switch.

Kids still love Nintendo. The Switch is the ideal console for a kid with a broken home and they're sadly very common. I know several kids who have a PC at one house but has a Switch to travel between them. Nintendo is sadly very strong with children even to this day despite the quality drops.

learn to read, that paragraph talks about sequels and prequels.

You might wanna read the passage around the last three comma marks, for context.

so? was X-COM more popular than Tekken? PC was more of a niche back then because PCs were expensive, a PC in the 90s cost you $3-$4k without adjusting for inflation, so probably equivalent of $6k+ today, the PS1 launched at $299

More popular than Alpine racer. A top of the line PC cost 4k but I had a low-mid range PC good enough to run Half life at 30 fps and I was in no way getting a gift that expensive ever.

Sold from 1992-1997 and Macs were more expensive than PCs were too so... Get fucked you Bethestard Nintoddler. :^)

Gaming is moving forward at crawl speed, whereas gaming culture is regressing at light speed.

As long as we can get to the point where I can call other people niggers and faggots in voice chat I'm okay with this.

100. Borderlands 2

HOW!? Borderlands 2 is the only game I've ever had to mute the audio on because it was so utterly fucking annoying. I have to assume it's because Anthony Burch is the writer and a journo so he gets a pity credit in lists like these.

A personal one for me, is how the 1980s-2000s produced about 40 solid Star Trek games, many of them very good still. They are almost always ignored, although 'Star Trek: Judgment Rites' has been somewhat recognised in recent years, partly due to the efforts of fans. It's galling to go on YouTube and listen to some Trekkie pick a bunch of post-2000s crap and think that these were the best ones.

Star Trek games never really took off did they? Even the good ones and easy to digest stuff never got much attention. It's weird to think how meme worthy Trek is now cause of the geek fad while being utterly devoid of any real substance culturally. Trekkies were a niche within a niche and did decent enough viewing figures to keep a low budget (as most were) sci fi series afloat. Now it's treated like some holy monument that it never was. A lot like Star wars between the original trilogy ending and the remasters being release. The series really didn't do much outside of it's own small niche of novels and games until Lucas revved up the marketing machine again for the prequels.