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Let's Read Heroes Never End (LR: WildStorm)
- Thread starter Vaarna_Aarne
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Vaarna_Aarne
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Also, no I'm not posting Revelations in this topic because I'd have to explain a shitload of WildCATs capefaggotry (Alan Moore appears prominently).
Cassidy
Arcane
Vaarna_Aarne said:
Vaarna_Aarne said:
You're going to post World's End, right? Or is there something influencing you not to?
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I have to comment on something. There's this undercurrent in the crossovers that the Authority are a bunch of self-righterous douchebags for trying to take over the USA. However, it has to be said that the most damage we've seen in ANY of these so far has ALWAYS been due to some crazy-stupid US governmental plan or the other. So between "Authority abuse their power OHNOES!" and "end of the world everybody dies" I'm not entirely sure why the general populace is so quick to pick the latter.
Vaarna_Aarne
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No, I'm posting World's End and reading it alongside you (only the first album for most other series was released, Authority got two albums), besides Doctor Andhaira gets his ass kicked in it so it's a must-read.
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Arcane
Update, please. 
Vaarna_Aarne
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Update as soon as I finish acquiring the next stuff.
Vaarna_Aarne
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Update later today, but since I have a creeping feeling that there's going to be times when I have to post WildCATs and other titles to help keep the World's End clear to you, and that I'm going to have to explain this whole Daemonite/Kheran thing (the reptilian scientist in Number of the Beast was a Daemonite), it's capefaggotry time! This time, about the WildCATs, the former number on team for WildStorm until Warren Ellis' StormWatch (and later The Authority) took over. Also, what makes WildCATs special is that they were part of the whole "everything turned out better than expected" turning point of 90's comics, which was due to the fact that Alan Moore took over the title for a considerable length of time and made considerable revisions.
Now anyway, to capefaggotry!
So, the first basic idea of WildStorm universe is that ever since ancient Egypt, Earth (a backwater with barely any contact from anyone in its history prior to the 20th century) has served as a battleground for the secretly waged war between the Daemonite and Kherubim (or Kheran) empires, each of whom had a detachment stranded there during around 3000 BC. The WildCATs were a team primarily composed of descendants of the Kheran detachment (one member is a human-daemonite hybrid, and one of them is a Kheran battle-android), formed by the Kheran general Lord Emp (that short guy with the cigar that called himself Baxter you've seen a couple of times over the LRs) to fight Daemonites.
Well, Alan Moore added a twist to this by having WildCATs actually go to Khera, where the revelation was that the war between Khera and Daemon has been over for centuries after total victory to Kherans and Earth was just so remote that no one bothered to relay the message. Similarly, turns out the Kherans are just as big of bastards as the Daemonites on Earth, with them being invaders to the planet they've renamed Khera where they've enslaved the indigenous species, and crippled Daemon by executing almost their entire nobility after which enforcing war reparations that drove Daemon to starvation and civil war. And of course, later Dan Abnett/Andy Lanning duo's Majestic mini-series would reveal that Kherans had intentions of doing the same to Earth as they did to their previous homeworld, with more vigor after learning that Kherans can produce fertile offspring with the natives (Kherans, being virtually immortal, reproduce extremely slowly among themselves and their female fertility rates are extremely low).
So anyway, the important follow-up of the reveal is that Lord Emp was completely disillusioned with Khera and basically withdrew from everything, and Majestic also turned his back on Khera in the end (Majestic is the Superman type in red-white costume you saw previously, and the peak of Kheran evolution), WildCATs stopped working in Kheran interests (with the occasional exception of Zealot, but she's a total bitch anyway), etc. It also lead to Spartan (the guy you saw in Coup De'tat with the white suit) to turning Lord Emp's front for the WildCATs, the Halo Corporation, into a legitimate business in the interests of using capitalism to improve the world (WildCATs 3.0 is pretty sweet btw).
Now anyway, to capefaggotry!
So, the first basic idea of WildStorm universe is that ever since ancient Egypt, Earth (a backwater with barely any contact from anyone in its history prior to the 20th century) has served as a battleground for the secretly waged war between the Daemonite and Kherubim (or Kheran) empires, each of whom had a detachment stranded there during around 3000 BC. The WildCATs were a team primarily composed of descendants of the Kheran detachment (one member is a human-daemonite hybrid, and one of them is a Kheran battle-android), formed by the Kheran general Lord Emp (that short guy with the cigar that called himself Baxter you've seen a couple of times over the LRs) to fight Daemonites.
Well, Alan Moore added a twist to this by having WildCATs actually go to Khera, where the revelation was that the war between Khera and Daemon has been over for centuries after total victory to Kherans and Earth was just so remote that no one bothered to relay the message. Similarly, turns out the Kherans are just as big of bastards as the Daemonites on Earth, with them being invaders to the planet they've renamed Khera where they've enslaved the indigenous species, and crippled Daemon by executing almost their entire nobility after which enforcing war reparations that drove Daemon to starvation and civil war. And of course, later Dan Abnett/Andy Lanning duo's Majestic mini-series would reveal that Kherans had intentions of doing the same to Earth as they did to their previous homeworld, with more vigor after learning that Kherans can produce fertile offspring with the natives (Kherans, being virtually immortal, reproduce extremely slowly among themselves and their female fertility rates are extremely low).
So anyway, the important follow-up of the reveal is that Lord Emp was completely disillusioned with Khera and basically withdrew from everything, and Majestic also turned his back on Khera in the end (Majestic is the Superman type in red-white costume you saw previously, and the peak of Kheran evolution), WildCATs stopped working in Kheran interests (with the occasional exception of Zealot, but she's a total bitch anyway), etc. It also lead to Spartan (the guy you saw in Coup De'tat with the white suit) to turning Lord Emp's front for the WildCATs, the Halo Corporation, into a legitimate business in the interests of using capitalism to improve the world (WildCATs 3.0 is pretty sweet btw).
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Arcane
What the- I can understand why you'd want us to know that before posting the next update... Thanks.
Moooar
Moooar
Vaarna_Aarne
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Yea, I got kinda sidetracked and ended up playing a shitload of Champions Online. Uploading nao.
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Arcane
Love acquired.
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Arcane
How interesting. Do carry on.
Edward_R_Murrow
Arcane
Huh. The world ending and the Post-apoc stuff is pretty good so far. What's up with the Stormwatch teams now?
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Arcane
Well, since Team Achilles got hit hard by DC, I'd imagine that we'll not see the slightest hint of them ever again.
As for Stormwatch under telepath nigger... Donno, they're probably alive somewhere...
As for Stormwatch under telepath nigger... Donno, they're probably alive somewhere...
Vaarna_Aarne
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That telepath nigger is Jackson King bro, from the original StormWatch.
Anyway, StormWatch was launched again with StormWatch: Post-Human Division, which was about Jackson starting a program to create a blueprint for cost-effective superhero law enforcement specialists that cities could afford. It was a fun series, even though having the PHD field leader be a new normal human character named John Doran AKA Nigger Sue (seriously, the guy is unbearably perfect and upstanding ALL THE FUCKING TIME). He dies offscreen when Number of the Beast happens, I think. The rest of the cast from PHD were fun though, and during the series Jackson also reformed the original StormWatch on the side when Doctor Andhaira resurrected the people killed in the Aliens crossover.
But yea, following World's End the StormWatch series became about the main team again, I've got the only collected edition that I know got released, and in it it's revealed that after Finland, North Korea is the safest place on Earth due to having gone full Cleve decades before World's End and being naturally equipped to deal with ITZ. Finland is safe because you know, the whole several thousand high-end SPBs and the Masking Wall keeping the borders secure and open for normal people.
Anyway, StormWatch kills North Korea's SPB protectors because they wouldn't cooperate with rebuilding the world and refraining from conquest. Oh yea, StormWatch killed them during negotiations when it was clear they were very very loyal to Dear Leader and Juche. StormWatch will appear shortly here as well, since after that they reached a point where they couldn't take any more refugees to SkyWatch, much less reliable sustain the current refugee load, so they're looking for the next best place, being the Carrier, where they could unload their refugees under The Authority's protection in exchange for providing The Authority with electricity and medical supplies among other things.
Anyway, StormWatch was launched again with StormWatch: Post-Human Division, which was about Jackson starting a program to create a blueprint for cost-effective superhero law enforcement specialists that cities could afford. It was a fun series, even though having the PHD field leader be a new normal human character named John Doran AKA Nigger Sue (seriously, the guy is unbearably perfect and upstanding ALL THE FUCKING TIME). He dies offscreen when Number of the Beast happens, I think. The rest of the cast from PHD were fun though, and during the series Jackson also reformed the original StormWatch on the side when Doctor Andhaira resurrected the people killed in the Aliens crossover.
But yea, following World's End the StormWatch series became about the main team again, I've got the only collected edition that I know got released, and in it it's revealed that after Finland, North Korea is the safest place on Earth due to having gone full Cleve decades before World's End and being naturally equipped to deal with ITZ. Finland is safe because you know, the whole several thousand high-end SPBs and the Masking Wall keeping the borders secure and open for normal people.
Anyway, StormWatch kills North Korea's SPB protectors because they wouldn't cooperate with rebuilding the world and refraining from conquest. Oh yea, StormWatch killed them during negotiations when it was clear they were very very loyal to Dear Leader and Juche. StormWatch will appear shortly here as well, since after that they reached a point where they couldn't take any more refugees to SkyWatch, much less reliable sustain the current refugee load, so they're looking for the next best place, being the Carrier, where they could unload their refugees under The Authority's protection in exchange for providing The Authority with electricity and medical supplies among other things.
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Arcane
Yeah, I know that it's Jackson King. I just don't like him since he has the audacity to call himself weatherman when the only weatherman worthy of the title is one H. Bendix.
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
There's another villain in the WildStorm Universe I think you'd like (this one completely made by Alan Moore): TAO, or Tactically Augmented Organism. You know how Three Dawg fights the good fight with his voice? Well TAO uses his voice entirely differently, and no his voice is not super-powered or anything. It's just that TAO has a tagged Speech skill at such a high level that he program people or cause them to have complete nervous breakdown by reasoning with them.
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Arcane
He's still an SPB though... but... hmm. Yeah, he sounds p. cool. I believe we caught a glance of him way back when, no?
Vaarna_Aarne
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Yea, he was the guy who manipulated the US Government into the incident that led to The Authority taking over.
Btw, uploading moar.
Btw, uploading moar.
Vaarna_Aarne
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