EA/Mythic Entertainment mount Ultima's corpse so they can kill it again

[Donaroriak]

Where is Lord Lady British's castle, and what are 3 church-like buildings doing by the main square?

 

[Infinitron]

Where is Lord Lady British's castle, and what are 3 church-like buildings doing by the main square?

Castle British wasn't directly adjacent to Britain in U4 and U5.
It moved into the city starting from U6.

 

[IDtenT]

This is getting more and more retarded.

EA, please sell the Ultima rights to Obsidian, and then fucking die.

Unfortunately, Obsidian can't afford it. But you know whose favorite game is Ultima VII?

No suprise there. If I remember correctly he said in an interview at E3 that his biggest inspiration is Ultima. You can clearly see TES going from dungeon-crawling to a open-world adventure game like Ultima VII.

I still wonder why people don't realise that TES is going to be the most Ultima-esque series of this generation. It's basically a modern (read declined) reincarnation of the latter.

 

[Volourn]

"o matter how hard BioWare will try to faithfully re-create Ultima IV, they'll terribly fail (duh)"

Bio isn't making this.

 

[evdk]

EA says otherwise.

 

[Jaesun]

"o matter how hard BioWare will try to faithfully re-create Ultima IV, they'll terribly fail (duh)"

Bio isn't making this.

BioWare Mythic is making this.

 

[Volourn]

"Mythic is making this"

FIXED.

 

[Mortmal]

Acutally id like to watch the last disney pixar , damn disney looks ton more mature than this now...

 

[evdk]

Face it, Volly. Bioware is no longer an intrepid mom'n'pops store at the corner, but a multinational chain of supermarkets. It has transcended its simple roots and became a brand.

 

[Volourn]

Maybe, but the only BIO that matetr sis the original BIO EDM. Like them hate them, they make good games or bad games, that's BIO. The others (except aryably BIO TEX since that was a BIO pre EA creation) are just EA divisions tagged with a BIO naming system gone amok.

Next we'll be seeing EA Sports turned into BIO Sports. L0LZ

 

[MMXI]

Next we'll be seeing EA Sports turned into BIO Sports. L0LZ

Well, EA Sports make better RPGs than BioWare, so if anything that would improve the brand.

 

[Volourn]

No. And, like EA sports. But, no.

 

[SinVraal]

E

A

ROMANCE

It's in the game.

 

[OuterSpace]

Like them hate them, they make good games or bad games, that's BIO.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Jaesun]

IGN: Can you give us some examples of difficult moral choices the player may have to make?

Jeff Skalski: While travelling through town a woman stops you and asks if you can go find her husband. He’s been missing for 6 days and has not returned from his last adventure to a nearby cave. You accept the quest and go exploring. While travelling through the caves you stumble across a corpse of a fallen warrior and upon searching it you uncover it was this woman’s husband, but also in his pockets is a letter from his mistress. You return to the woman, now widow, and are given a choice. Do you hand the letter over to the woman and tell her, “Your husband has died, but no worries; he was a lying bastard who was cheating on you anyways.” (Honesty) or rip the letter behind your back and tell her, “Your husband died an honorable death. I’m sorry for your loss.” (Compassion) Neither answer is wrong or right, but it’s your choice to decide what virtues you lean towards and ultimately the path you’ll take to prove worthy of Avatarhood.

http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/109041-ultima-forever-quest-for-the-avatar-interview.html

 

[octavius]

Poor Avatar does not get the option to try to take advantage of the vulnerable vidow.

 

[MMXI]

Ouch. Those IGN comments. "What the fuck is Ultima? I thought this was about Zelda!"

 

[octavius]

Ouch. Those IGN comments. "What the fuck is Ultima? I thought this was about Zelda!"

Funny how "everybody" remembers Zelda and other old console JRPGs, but few remember the old pre Baldur's Gate CRPGs.
It's like a much larger share of the old PC gamers "grew up" and stopped playing games, while the old console players are still playing...

 

[evdk]

Funny how "everybody" remembers Zelda and other old console JRPGs, but few remember the old pre Baldur's Gate CRPGs.
It's like a much larger share of the old PC gamers "grew up" and stopped playing games, while the old console players are still playing...

Because they remember Twilight Princess, not A Link to the Past.

 

[MMXI]

Because they remember Twilight Princess, not A Link to the Past.

Obviously not, given the title of the article was "Ultima Forever: A Link to the Past".

 

[evdk]

Because they remember Twilight Princess, not A Link to the Past.

Obviously not, given the title of the article was "Ultima Forever: A Link to the Past".

Fuck, maximum retardation on my part. I am off to disembowel myself for this failure.

 

[MMXI]

Funny how "everybody" remembers Zelda and other old console JRPGs, but few remember the old pre Baldur's Gate CRPGs.
It's like a much larger share of the old PC gamers "grew up" and stopped playing games, while the old console players are still playing...

I don't want this to hijack the thread, as I've talked about this a few times on the Codex before, but I think this is also down to how far back gamers are willing to go. A JRPG fan will have no problem playing old JRPGs on old consoles or emulators. In fact, some of the least hardcore gamers I know have played games like Final Fantasy VI using a SNES emulator. There isn't that much of a difference between new JRPGs and old JRPGs, as the appeal of both very much overlap. They tend to like "emotional engagement", which is just what games like Chrono Trigger gives you. Contrast this to computer RPGs, where BioWare and Obsidian's dialogue heavy character driven stuff is totally different to the likes of Wizardry and Might and Magic.

You've also got the fact that long running console game series are still alive today. People playing a new Final Fantasy may be tempted to try out Final Fantasy V or VI, or even the really old ones, while a Skyrim player isn't going to feel compelled to check out something like Darklands or an Ultima game. You tend to see this a lot on other less prestigious forums. The older JRPGs that are talked about the most are ones related to big ongoing franchises.

Zelda, for example, while not being an RPG, is still an ongoing series with huge popularity. When older console gamers post about how A Link to the Past is the best Zelda game, you'll often get younger Zelda fans asking how they can play it today. Try finding this sort of thing in PC gaming communities, especially regarding CRPGs. Good luck!

 

[Infinitron]

Eh, I think the real reason is that console gamers then and now were younger on average, so yes, there are more Zelda players still gaming.

That and console games were just more widely played, period. So there are simply more console gamers around to talk.

 

[Bruticis]

Eh, I think the real reason is that console gamers then and now were younger on average, so yes, there are more Zelda players still gaming.

That and console games were just more widely played, period. So there are simply more console gamers around to talk.

This. Your average Skyrim player is not going to run out and try Arena or Daggerfall. They'd put their fucking eyes out in the process.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Even the BG games have a learning curve in the form of the character creation process and ruleset. If you want to play Zelda you just go ahead and press the sword swinging button. Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasies are a little trickier in that they actually have stats and item management, but you don't need to learn much else. In the end the gamepad driven games win because the player picks up most of it immediately and only needs to get to grips with the rest to actually finish the game, and not just get started like most PC games. What is this SimCity oh god which button do I mash to fix the economy and lower crime

Getting old dos games to work is also a mite trickier than using an emulator. Or you can take this back to command prompt, c:\win and dosshell days, where getting games to work beat technical know-how into you by necessity. Shit son, you want to play that new warcraft 2? You need to find out what type of ram goes into your rig!
Even in the old school console days playing NES didn't have any hurdles to it, besides cartridge care pseudo-mysticism and the finely honed per-game rapport that comes with 80 dollar carts/257 in 1 superpak taiwanese bargains with bomberman 6-18 included. Maybe knowing which third party controllers aren't shit can help.

Back then everyone could go their separate ways in peace with their platform-specific franchises.