EA/Mythic Entertainment mount Ultima's corpse so they can kill it again

[MMXI]

Eh, I think the real reason is that console gamers then and now were younger on average, so yes, there are more Zelda players still gaming.

That and console games were just more widely played, period. So there are simply more console gamers around to talk.

I'm not necessarily talking about people who played those games at the time. I'm sure most people who have played A Link to the Past didn't play it back in 1992. It's just far easier to "sell" an old Zelda or Final Fantasy game to console gamers than it is Pool of Radiance to fans of Diablo 3. Constant remakes and re-releases of old console games also makes it easier for newer gamers to play, where as most PC games are "rotting" on abandonware sites, with a few games appearing on sites like GOG, where inevitably you find complaints about them being "dated".

This. Your average Skyrim player is not going to run out and try Arena or Daggerfall. They'd put their fucking eyes out in the process.

Actually, I know a few TES fans who have tried to play Daggerfall. None of them played it for more than an hour though.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Even in the old school console days playing NES didn't have any hurdles to it, besides cartridge care pseudo-mysticism and the finely honed per-game rapport that comes with 80 dollar carts/257 in 1 superpak taiwanese bargains with bomberman 6-18 included. Maybe knowing which third party controllers aren't shit can help.

I remember we had some headaches with japanese and euro carts, sometimes they were in a weird format and simply didin't fit, requiring you to get adapters of fiddle with the insides of the console.

 

[sser]

Jeff Skalski: While travelling through town a woman stops you and asks if you can go find her husband. He’s been missing for 6 days and has not returned from his last adventure to a nearby cave. You accept the quest and go exploring. While travelling through the caves you stumble across a corpse of a fallen warrior and upon searching it you uncover it was this woman’s husband, but also in his pockets is a letter from his mistress. You return to the woman, now widow, and are given a choice. Do you hand the letter over to the woman and tell her, “Your husband has died, but no worries; he was a lying bastard who was cheating on you anyways.” (Honesty) or rip the letter behind your back and tell her, “Your husband died an honorable death. I’m sorry for your loss.” (Compassion) Neither answer is wrong or right, but it’s your choice to decide what virtues you lean towards and ultimately the path you’ll take to prove worthy of Avatarhood.

I don't understand. Neither are right or wrong? First off, you've already rifled through a dead man's personal letters -- how noble of the hero to do that no questions asked. Second, there is clearly a moral element to both of those choices -- and a lot of choices being left out. Why? What is the point of even including C&C if this is the result? Just focus on other gameplay facets if the quest dynamics and character development are gonna be Disney-inspired and just as predictable. I just don't get why developers build up some "gameplay" aspects simply for the sake of "having it."

 

[Deuce Traveler]

Jeff Skalski: While travelling through town a woman stops you and asks if you can go find her husband. He’s been missing for 6 days and has not returned from his last adventure to a nearby cave. You accept the quest and go exploring. While travelling through the caves you stumble across a corpse of a fallen warrior and upon searching it you uncover it was this woman’s husband, but also in his pockets is a letter from his mistress. You return to the woman, now widow, and are given a choice. Do you hand the letter over to the woman and tell her, “Your husband has died, but no worries; he was a lying bastard who was cheating on you anyways.” (Honesty) or rip the letter behind your back and tell her, “Your husband died an honorable death. I’m sorry for your loss.” (Compassion) Neither answer is wrong or right, but it’s your choice to decide what virtues you lean towards and ultimately the path you’ll take to prove worthy of Avatarhood.

I don't understand. Neither are right or wrong? First off, you've already rifled through a dead man's personal letters -- how noble of the hero to do that no questions asked. Second, there is clearly a moral element to both of those choices -- and a lot of choices being left out. Why? What is the point of even including C&C if this is the result? Just focus on other gameplay facets if the quest dynamics and character development are gonna be Disney-inspired and just as predictable. I just don't get why developers build up some "gameplay" aspects simply for the sake of "having it."

I also am having a hard time understanding how this quest deals with Compassion or Honesty. If you find the dead man's letters, how is telling the lady what was in those letters and act of Honesty? She didn't ask the Avatar if he could find out if her husband was having an affair. Even if she did, the answer doesn't effect the Avatar, so why wouldn't he just answer 'Yes'? And how is deciding not to get involved an act of Compassion? Giving money to beggars was an act of Compassion early on in Ultima IV because you could have really used that money to upgrade your equipment. Deciding not to tell the woman that her man was cheating on her isn't an act of Compassion because there are no personal stakes for the Avatar. Instead the Avatar might be more prone to make this choice because he doesn't want to deal with the drama, not because he is compassionate. Most of the virtue quests personally affected the player, such as not killing fleeing enemies for the XP (so you wouldn't lose honor) or not bragging about your very awesome exploits (humility) or locking yourself up in prison for a misdemeanor (justice). It looks like the creators of this new game missed the point that walking the path of the Avatar is a personal journey.

 

[SinVraal]

Do you hand the letter over to the woman and tell her, “Your husband has died, but no worries; he was a lying bastard who was cheating on you anyways.” (Honesty)

What a cheeky bastard. This shit reeks of Dragon Age.

 

[taxalot]

Well, I don't know, but just to annoy Bioware I went out and watched Battleship Potemkin for the very first time.

Yup. Pretty sure it doesn't need a remake.

 

[Infinitron]

taxalot Did you get an email from EA recently? I'm curious.

 

[taxalot]

I did. I replied to it, even though I'm sure it's an elaborate trap from their lawyers to get me to it. The "surprise" word sounded like GlaDOS in my mind.

 

[Infinitron]

I did. I replied to it, even though I'm sure it's an elaborate trap from their lawyers to get me to it. The "surprise" word sounded like GlaDOS in my mind.

Haha. I got one too. I'll ask Kenneth about it.

 

[taxalot]

I bet it's a pack with a cloth map and those stupid virtue cards.

 

[Infinitron]

Jaesun, did you get an email?

 

[Jaesun]

I bet it's a pack with a cloth map and those stupid virtue cards.

Jaesun, did you get an email?

Thanks for the head's up! Gee.. I wonder what it is.

 

[Infinitron]

taxalot

Jaesun has been the tightest-lipped of us here, so if he got the mail too, I guess you have nothing to worry about.

 

[Jaesun]

I just fear the wrath of EA's NDA. But when that is lifted..... THE FURY OF THE GREAT EARTH SERPENT SHALL BE UNLEASHED UPON THE WORLD! EVEN THE BANES WILL COWER IN FEAR!

 

[evdk]

Do not worry taxalot you have nothing to fear.

 

[taxalot]

Maybe Jaesun is part of the conspiracy.

 

[Micmu]

I reported y'all to my boss.

 

[Black Shogun]

Sorry for thread rezzing but....

I mean, thanks to my age I've only played Ultima 4 (Free on GoG) but... No game series deserves to be raped on Tablet. No Game series.

 

[Kane]

nothing deserves to be raped on mobile devices. as if consoles weren't bad enough already.

 

[Hamanu]

What the fuck, over.

You're coming in stupid.

 

[taxalot]

And on the fucking iPad, nonetheless. As far as I know, it is not even planned on Android.

 

[Jaesun]

Is our NDA lifted yet?

 

[taxalot]

I don't know but we were clearly supposed to hear about the beta anytime now.

 

[IDtenT]

Do you guys still have access? Has anything changed?

 

[taxalot]

As far as I'm concerned, there is no news since the end of Alpha, except that a "surprise" was supposed to arrive in my IRL mailbox soon.