Capcom Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

[Jasede]

Come on, what's more important? Food and drink or videogames?

 

[Damned Registrations]

Is it possible to hold on to the enemies so your allies can finish them off the way the pawns do? I grabbed a wolf once and chucked it, and an ally cinema killed it as it landed, but I've never done the restraining thing the pawns can do so far. Would be really useful against certain enemy types, like the armored bandits.

 

[Ebonsword]

Is it possible to hold on to the enemies so your allies can finish them off the way the pawns do? I grabbed a wolf once and chucked it, and an ally cinema killed it as it landed, but I've never done the restraining thing the pawns can do so far. Would be really useful against certain enemy types, like the armored bandits.

Interesting question! I wonder if maybe it's a Fighter class feature? My Fighter pawn is the only one that I think has used the "restraining" technique.

I'll try to play around with my Strider later today and see if I can get her to pull it off.

 

[praetor]

Come on, what's more important? Food and drink or videogames?

if they're good games like DD or DkS then games, of course. if they're shit ones like D3, then.. they're not worth one rotten slice of bread

 

[whitemithrandir]

Is it possible to hold on to the enemies so your allies can finish them off the way the pawns do? I grabbed a wolf once and chucked it, and an ally cinema killed it as it landed, but I've never done the restraining thing the pawns can do so far. Would be really useful against certain enemy types, like the armored bandits.

Interesting question! I wonder if maybe it's a Fighter class feature? My Fighter pawn is the only one that I think has used the "restraining" technique.

I'll try to play around with my Strider later today and see if I can get her to pull it off.

Holding R2 (as a fighter or warrior or mystic knight) will lock down the enemy so your pawns can stab them in the face.

Tapping R2 on a stunned or disabled enemy will put him on your shoulder so you can chuck them off a cliff.

 

[20 Eyes]

Tried out the warrior vocation last night. Man, is it slow. But powerful. They don't get a secondary weapon, so they miss out on three skill slots. It was fun smashing dudes 20 feet in the air with my warhammer, but I think I still like fighter more.

Regarding the potential of a port, I think it's a safe bet Crapcom waits to see how Dark Souls does financially.

Holding R2 (as a fighter or warrior or mystic knight) will lock down the enemy so your pawns can stab them in the face.

If this is true, and you can't double jump with swords/shield I might abandon my plans on being an assassin and just stick with the fighter. I generally hate dual-wielding so daggers are unappealing to me. I'll at least give it a shot, but it seems that every other melee vocation has a huge con besides fighter:

Warrior - Slow as fuck, only three skill slots
Mystic Knight - The shield animations taking your shield from your back to your arm every three seconds would drive me crazy
Assassin - Poor defense/HP gains, can't double jump with sword, can't grapple, can't throw dudes off cliffs, lighter armor
Strider - Thinks he's playing Shadow of the Colossus

Fighter seems like the vocation for me so far, which is funny because it's one of the basic ones you can start the game as. The advanced and hybrid classes are more like sidegrades than upgrades.

Fighter - Good armor, shield, lightning fast sword attacks, good melee stat gains, a true BRO that isn't afraid to put a goblin in a headlock and throw him off a cliff

Why did they even include other classes?

EDIT: After testing it out, Assassins (at least with sword and shield) can also restrain smaller enemies. Seems Assassins with sword + shield are like more offensive oriented fighters. Some of the skills are different. Must investigate further...

 

[Hobo Elf]

Having fun with the Mage. His damage seems a bit weak, but ever since I got into the capital I got a new staff and upgraded my fire spell so we'll see if I've turned into the rape train I was promised to be. Need to get some money so I can upgrade my bro's armor, so I'm gonna have to start doing quests. Can't wait to finally start seriously exploring the world now that I did that long ass escort quest and seem to have finally gotten out of the tutorial zone.

 

[SuicideBunny]

err, do npcs respawn or alternatively any way to restart a quest without reloading? i had the quest to find quina in the witchwood and the silly cow didn't stick to my group and then got killed somewhere....

 

[Jasede]

This is sounding better and better. I'm just hesitant about getting it because I still haven't finished Dark Souls (That game is ever-consuming; it beats you, over and over and over. It hurts you, cuts you, bruises you. And eventually you part a part of it and you feel a kind of triumph that not many games can provide. It's really quite something.)

And there's Diablo 3 which, honestly, can't compare to a game like Dark Souls and is just mindless short-term fun to play with your friends. It's not fun solo to me at all; but neither was D2 to me. (D1 was, oddly enough)

I bet you guys have similar problems, too. There's just too many freaking games to play, and none of them are that stellar. And when a great one does come along you barely find the time to play it.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Nah, even with backlog I sometimes get obsessed with a good game and just play that until I beat it like 1-3 times. Dragon's Dogma is looking to be a game like that, just like Dark Souls and Demon's Souls were.

 

[felipepepe]

Yeah, beated Dark Souls countless times, always trying to emulate that perfect feeling that the first playthrough had....meanwhile, games like Stacking and Dawn of War 2 await in my PC...not that they are bad,they are very good and I do want to finish them, but I've got books to read, movies to see, friends to talk to and girlfriends to fuck work to do....

 

[Jasede]

So much to do so little time.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

I'm hesitant about this. I've been hyped for it for a long time, but already have a lot of other existing games to play. Also there's the possibility of a PC port, though I wouldn't count on it for three reasons. One, because Capcom is inconsistent about this. Two, because they only expect this to be a mildly successful game based on their financial forecast, and thus might not care to pay attention to it or expend the resources. And lastly, because they could release some fairly major DLC, but skip its PC release, like with Resident Evil 5.

 

[The Ticktockman]

Is anyone playing as a Strider or Assassin? I've been leveling as a Ranger but I've been thinking of switching to one of the other two. I like using the bow, but whenever we fight a large monster I can't help but want to jump all over it, which isn't exactly the Ranger's role. So, any thoughts on how the Strider and Assassin play? I'm mainly curious about the Assassin, since I'm concerned that having 4 different weapons to choose from makes them to generalized to be very effective with any one of them.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Playing as a Mage Archer now (or whatever the fuck they'r called) Holy fucking shit this has powerful skills. I can't use ensnare any more, but I have a pawn doing that for me. Instead I have:

Homing arrow bow. As default shots. And they're magic damage, presumably. You can still get enchanted for specific flavours by your pawns. Skills involving multiple shots at once, especially effective on large targets (10 shot lockon on a cyclops ftw)

Firey explosive jumping ground slam attack. Blasts shit into the air and onto their asses, and lights stuff on fire fairly quickly. First version was hard to hit with, but the 2nd has a bigger area.

Charging holy wave bullshit move. I thought this sucked at first, until I realized two things. First, it's far more effective on slow, tough targets, like cyclopses or undead. Second, it fucking heals you when you cause damage with it.

Haven't learned a bunch of the other available skills yet. Looks like theres some cool shit to be had though, which pawns will never have access to.


Other cool shit I've discovered:

Some items heal you above the grey 'cap' for magical healing. So you can use them instead of an inn if there isn't one close by. Of course it seems like only the heavier/rarer ones do this effectively.

I solved part of a quest by giving a very unfriendly dude a bunch of items that I figured he would like based on the item description.

I solved a later part of the quest by giving a different dude a forgery of the item he requested instead of the real thing, which I kept for myself.

Fucking love this game so far.

 

[Jasede]

That sounds incredible.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

If I end up buying it and it appears on PC later I'm going to hate myself. But the fact that a Japanese developers handily beats the Bethesdas and Biowares of this world at their own game is hard to ignore.

 

[Average Manatee]

Capcom has been pretty good about porting their games, and their ports have been of decent to good quality lately. I can wait.

 

[TheLostOne]

err, do npcs respawn or alternatively any way to restart a quest without reloading? i had the quest to find quina in the witchwood and the silly cow didn't stick to my group and then got killed somewhere....

I heard they respawn after a week or so. I know for a fact that escort quests once failed are failed until NG+. If you read the quest description carefully it specifically says you have once chance on these. Rage inducing, but satisfying in an odd way.

@DamnedRegistrations: Ricochet shot is incredible in corridors. It bounces off walls and seeks targets. The upgraded version shoots 3 arrows and they turn a hallway into a meat grinder.

Edit: Also, the thing with warriors only having primary skills is probably a bug. They were meant to be like mages who have a primary and secondary even though they only wield one weapon. There are dev videos showing a warrior using primary and secondary skills. I really hope they fix this because there are way too many skills going to waste if they don't.

 

[20 Eyes]

Did the quest where you have to liberate the fort from the goblins. Stormed the place pretty easily. Massacred the two cyclops guarding the main yard. Entered the stronghold for the final assault and butchered my way to the top. Another cyclops climbed onto the top of the fort as I was fighting the goblin horde, and we started to kick its ass. When it was around half health, it smacked me about 50 feet into the air. I flew off the castle and landed on the ground and died.

Also, I love the level of detail in this game. I was wandering around during the day and I noticed lizardmen basking on rocks in the sun.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Oh, has anyone else gone to jail yet?

 

[whitemithrandir]

Also - whoever keeps on renting my pawn and giving her rotten apples as parting gifts can suck my dick.

Oh, has anyone else gone to jail yet?

Yeah.

If you have a skeleton key (built with shackles and ore) then you can just break out and walk outside like a boss.

If you don't, you'll have to speak to the guard outside and pay 5000 gold.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Look on the bright side- at least they aren't forgeries of rotten apples. Now that would be some epic trolling.

 

[20 Eyes]

Also - whoever keeps on renting my pawn and giving her rotten apples as parting gifts can suck my dick.

My dude usually gets mushrooms. One generous bro did give me one of those shards you need to make the resurrection stone, I needed one more to finish the quest. It was like he was a psychic.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

I give health potions and airtight flasks.