Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Konjad]

I'm trying to watch satire videos

How do you make satire out of a satire?

 

[markec]

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Fedora Master]

I like Origins, but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to go back and replay it again, 'cause the Dragon Age name is so cringe and dirty now.

I told you people the other games are so bad they retroactively ruin a decent first installment.

 

[MerchantKing]

Meanwhile, in Origins:

"In Antiva being a crow gets you wealth, gets you women, or men" is extremely pozzed and woke. The only difference between these older woke games and the newer woke "games" is that the newer woke games go out of their way to write generate an entire storyline about it their entire "game" focuses on while older "games" either just made gay sex scenes or just had it in a phrase or two in a longer monologue.

I like Origins, but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to go back and replay it again, 'cause the Dragon Age name is so cringe and dirty now.

It was always terrible.

Wokes love to harp on how Dragon Age "was always woke" and they can only point to Zevran and Leliana romances.

Homosexual romances are always woke. It doesn't matter what cope you want to go through just to defend another shitty bioware game from 15 years ago.

We can go through their staff and the degenerate shit they did even since the production of BG2. (Ever hear the one about one of the staff members just watching hardcore gay porn at his desk instead of working and getting away with it?) We even have the extremely overrated faggot David Gaydar who wrote all this faggot shit in the first place long before the later wokoids got into Bioware.

Arguably RTwP and the arpg combat are also extremely woke since they do away with the proper form of rpg combat; tactical turn-based combat. As attempts at hybrid combat systems they are essentially the trannies of rpg gameplay.

 

[Camel]

Homosexual romances are always woke. It doesn't matter what cope you want to go through just to defend another shitty bioware game from 15 years ago.

We can go through their staff and the degenerate shit they did even since the production of BG2. (Ever hear the one about one of the staff members just watching hardcore gay porn at his desk instead of working and getting away with it?) We even have the extremely overrated faggot David Gaydar who wrote all this faggot shit in the first place long before the later wokoids got into Bioware.

Arguably RTwP and the arpg combat are also extremely woke since they do away with the proper form of rpg combat; tactical turn-based combat. As attempts at hybrid combat systems they are essentially the trannies of rpg gameplay.

You're aping Zed's tired shtick about BioWare. Is Fallout 2 woke because of homosexual romances?

 

[MerchantKing]

Homosexual romances are always woke. It doesn't matter what cope you want to go through just to defend another shitty bioware game from 15 years ago.

We can go through their staff and the degenerate shit they did even since the production of BG2. (Ever hear the one about one of the staff members just watching hardcore gay porn at his desk instead of working and getting away with it?) We even have the extremely overrated faggot David Gaydar who wrote all this faggot shit in the first place long before the later wokoids got into Bioware.

Arguably RTwP and the arpg combat are also extremely woke since they do away with the proper form of rpg combat; tactical turn-based combat. As attempts at hybrid combat systems they are essentially the trannies of rpg gameplay.

You're aping Zed's tired shtick about BioWare. Is Fallout 2 woke because of homosexual romances?

Yes. Fallout 2 is very woke.

 

[NecroLord]

Homosexual romances are always woke. It doesn't matter what cope you want to go through just to defend another shitty bioware game from 15 years ago.

We can go through their staff and the degenerate shit they did even since the production of BG2. (Ever hear the one about one of the staff members just watching hardcore gay porn at his desk instead of working and getting away with it?) We even have the extremely overrated faggot David Gaydar who wrote all this faggot shit in the first place long before the later wokoids got into Bioware.

Arguably RTwP and the arpg combat are also extremely woke since they do away with the proper form of rpg combat; tactical turn-based combat. As attempts at hybrid combat systems they are essentially the trannies of rpg gameplay.

You're aping Zed's tired shtick about BioWare. Is Fallout 2 woke because of homosexual romances?

Yes. Fallout 2 is very woke.

How dare you talk shit about Fallout 2, gnome?

 

[Dark Souls II]

(Ever hear the one about one of the staff members just watching hardcore gay porn at his desk instead of working and getting away with it?)

No I did not hear that one. Let's hear that one.

 

[MerchantKing]

(Ever hear the one about one of the staff members just watching hardcore gay porn at his desk instead of working and getting away with it?)

No I did not hear that one. Let's hear that one.

I don't have to tell the story because that pretty much explains it all. It was during BG2's development.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Yes. Fallout 2 is very woke.

Well, it was Fallout 2...

 

[Drowed]

A basic comparison between a large franchise, a well-known name and a large base of interested players; and a dating simulator for people with colorful hair.

 

[Fargus]

I'm trying to watch satire videos but the game is so cringe I keep fast forwarding.

When some youtube retard with AI can make more entertaining writing than entire team of Bioware nutjobs. And i'm pretty sure because of AI voicing a couple of mad trannies already 41% themselves after watching this. Elevenlabs is a gift that still keeps on giving.

 

[Elttharion]

So far...

Objectively:
Origins>Veilguard>2>Inquisition

Gameplay:
Origins>Veilguard>2>Inquisition

Story:
Origins>2>Veilguard>Inquisition

I'd consider Origins to be the only actual "RPG" from a C&C perspective in the context of this franchise, so won't bother including reactivity since it's middling even when at it's best.

Ranking the DA games lmao

 

[Oberon]

I'm trying to watch satire videos but the game is so cringe I keep fast forwarding.

When some youtube retard with AI can make more entertaining writing than entire team of Bioware nutjobs. And i'm pretty sure because of AI voicing a couple of mad trannies already 41% themselves after watching this. Elevenlabs is a gift that still keeps on giving.

Outside of a few artists and visionaries, most game industry "writers" are completely outshone by the average hobbyist. And I'm talking about the days of NWN, current year DEI hires would be outshone by my 9 year old nephew if I asked him to write some characters.

 

[normie]

Is Fallout 2 woke because of homosexual romances?

extremely
with all the porn and coom shit all over the place, the pop culture references are tame compared to how palpably sexually frustrated and disgusting FO2's writing is

 

[Fargus]

I'm trying to watch satire videos but the game is so cringe I keep fast forwarding.

When some youtube retard with AI can make more entertaining writing than entire team of Bioware nutjobs. And i'm pretty sure because of AI voicing a couple of mad trannies already 41% themselves after watching this. Elevenlabs is a gift that still keeps on giving.

Outside of a few artists and visionaries, most game industry "writers" are completely outshone by the average hobbyist. And I'm talking about the days of NWN, current year DEI hires would be outshone by my 9 year old nephew if I asked him to write some characters.

Yeah, i've seen porn games with more entertaining writing than todays "AAA" and heavily sanitized and overpolished story in indie rpgs just ends up being boring and puts you to sleep.

I heard how mantella AI (mod) for Skyrim can make npcs paranoid if you tell them some conspiracy, you can turn them against each other or make them attack you if you trash talk them too much and they remember what you said before. Sounds way more entertaining that anything these soy cunts are capable of on their best day. Dynamic AI storytelling is the future. Twitter landwhale writers with daddy issues are the past.

 

[NecroLord]

you can turn them against each other or make them attack you if you trash talk them too much and they remember what you said before.

Like in Morrowind?
Taunt is pretty damn funny.

 

[Fargus]

you can turn them against each other or make them attack you if you trash talk them too much and they remember what you said before.

Like in Morrowind?
Taunt is pretty damn funny.

Yeah, except you can call Nazim a niggerfaggot and he will lose it and become murderous. I'll have to do it sometime.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

So far...

Objectively:
Origins>Veilguard>2>Inquisition

Gameplay:
Origins>Veilguard>2>Inquisition

Story:
Origins>2>Veilguard>Inquisition

I'd consider Origins to be the only actual "RPG" from a C&C perspective in the context of this franchise, so won't bother including reactivity since it's middling even when at it's best.

Graphics:
Ebola>Cancer>Plague

Gameplay:
Plague>Ebola>Cancer

Story:
Cancer>Plague>Ebola

 

[NecroLord]

you can turn them against each other or make them attack you if you trash talk them too much and they remember what you said before.

Like in Morrowind?
Taunt is pretty damn funny.

Yeah, except you can call Nazim a niggerfaggot and he will lose it and become murderous. I'll have to do it sometime.

You called him a Redguard with a hard R?

 

[Thalstarion]

You can run a comb through pretty much any RPG and find elements that are outright or technically woke. It's just the nature of the industry. Ultimately the best possible compromise - other than not having such elements present in the first place - is to be able to have one's character react negatively to elements without the game getting preachy over it.

I despise a lot of the nonsense in BG3 but it at least gives you the opportunity to outright kill off Karlach if you want to. Which everyone has a moral obligation to do given how subversive the 'strong muscle mommy' trope is. It's just a gateway drug to autogynephilia.

Veilguard's particularly jarring since it apparently never allows the player to pull away from the dysgenic freaks you're forced to work with and assumes the player - and their character - subscribes to progressive ideology at every turn.

 

[Ryzer]

Yeah, i've seen porn games with more entertaining writing than todays "AAA"

 

[countrydoctor]

I think there's a lot of misconception about the term "woke". It almost exclusively refers to forceful injection of identity politics, all the garbage ultimately stemming from intersectionality. Mass injection of that shit into video games only began around 2013-14 and got worse with time. You could find a gay character in games beforehand, but this nearly religious desire to overrepresent any sort of minorities and preach the player about their imaginary woes didn't exist in vidya until about a decade ago, a bit more if we're talking about video game journalism.
Under this angle, the only really egregious shit BG3 has is a godawful Aylin, and they seemingly tried to make her a borderline joke character. Unlike Traash.

 

[Drowed]

I think there's a lot of misconception about the term "woke". It almost exclusively refers to forceful injection of identity politics, all the garbage ultimately stemming from intersectionality.

The thing is, applying the concept of 'woke' retroactively just doesn't make sense. It's often used as a catch-all for any stance, directly or indirectly, associated with the left. But, as you pointed out, it's a modern phenomenon, identity politics and everything that comes with it.

Many classic games would likely be labeled as woke if they were released today, yet they aren’t part of the same social movement. Themes like Marxism, sexuality, and racial issues aren't new to games - especially RPGs. So, it's not surprising to see these elements in games like Fallout, Planescape, Bloodlines, and most other titles topping Codex's favorites. But there has been a visible and relatively sudden shift in the way these topics are handled in modern contexts.

Personally, I think it’s a mix of factors. The rise of socially progressive views worldwide is certainly part of it, as well as the way these issues are taught in education. But honestly, I think a large part of the responsibility lies with the internet itself and how ideas and values circulate and become reinforced within their respective bubbles. This effect is particularly strong and, in many ways, dangerous among kids and teenagers; what we’re seeing with the zoomers now reflects that, especially as they start entering the workforce and adult life. Especially those who work in media content production, particularly in series/movies and games.

We're talking about people unprepared for the world, often completely out of touch with basic concepts and lacking any real emotional resilience. I'm not at all surprised that half of them rely on marijuana or other substances, legal or otherwise, to numb themselves and cope with the reality that the world isn’t as they wish it to be. Sure, every generation thinks the next one is somehow worse, but, god, it feels like we skipped three or four to get where we are today. It doesn't surprise me that so many are afraid of ChatGPT, it writes texts with greater fluency and coherence than most of them, and also interprets better.

The problem is that you can only create something based on your own life experiences. And most of these people grew up without reading a single whole book, instead filling their minds with Marvel movies and Netflix series for hours. This gave rise to the term binge watching, not that something similar didn't exist before, but not to this degree to the point of requiring its own term. I have no doubt that Veilguard faced many other challenges because it went through years of development hell, but that's not enough to explain the current outcome. It's not accidental, it's deliberate.