Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

[Cromwell]

When did they implement a new system?

About a week ago. Now there's a separate queue for solo players only.

I sent an invite to a Castanova with a private profile.

Accepted. If anyone else wants to play Dota on US servers send me an invite.

Ok then it doesnt apply to me since I rarely play solo, I do have the same problem as you when playing with a friend. only gets better if we play a three man team. Us Server as in "checked us servers" or is there a different server where i have to change some things in my steam?

 

[Castanova]

As in "checked US servers." I don't like having a high ping so I stick to the US.

 

[Cromwell]

cant play right now but will send you an friend invite regardless for future games. Maybe Im on for some games later, usually I play very late at night but the time difference to us should be a few hours.

 

[MetalCraze]

Not sure if Dota2 even has servers. From what I've noticed it's p2p connections (think how it's done in Warcraft 3) since there's no other explanation why I and everybody else get 100 ms ping no matter if I pick western or eastern Europe

The problem is that they go stright to normal game, instead of Bot training.

Dota2 bots have better intelligence than a noob tier. I always play 2-3 games with a new char in bot practice mode. And then I simply rape with it in a pub game.

 

[Space Satan]

bots have instant reaction, you simply can't bling and start buttrape left and right - there will be instant bkb and shit. much easier in pub

 

[MetalCraze]

Reaction has nothing to do with it. They know when to work as a team - they can start running around as a team of 4 or 5. They also know how to last hit and deny. And they buy couriers. They buy dust and wards. And they get supports to provide the team with stuns and/or heals.

Now try making a noob pub player do the same. Every tard goes for carry since "supports are weak can't 1v1 or 1v3 duh" and even if one moron does take support you have to beg him to buy a courier. I even had support tell me to go and buy courier myself if I so desperately need it. I was playing a carry that was carrying their shit game - lul it's actually not hard since the other team is full of morons just like these too.

 

[Cromwell]

Reaction has nothing to do with it. They know when to work as a team - they can start running around as a team of 4 or 5. They also know how to last hit and deny. And they buy couriers. They buy dust and wards. And they get supports to provide the team with stuns and/or heals.

Now try making a noob pub player do the same. Every tard goes for carry since "supports are weak can't 1v1 or 1v3 duh" and even if one moron does take support you have to beg him to buy a courier. I even had support tell me to go and buy courier myself if I so desperately need it. I was playing a carry that was carrying their shit game - lul it's actually not hard since the other team is full of morons just like these too.

i had, a few games ago a venomancer who instead of harassing or doing smething like warding, bought slippers and circlet went straight for wraith, skilled his poison ball first, then the actual poison and then went on to buy a shadowblade trying to gank. The game ended with him level 15, five levels into stats, he never skilled wards or bought some, and then proceeded to flame the team because its noob and uneven. I had the good fortune to lane with him as breaker where I failed horribly, trying to do something worthwile like protecting him against a solo lane viper, which harassed me the whole time and had freefarm. Of course the viper got fed very quickly, and although he also played rather below average there was not really anything we could do against him, and lost.

I am simply not good enough to carry this against all the "normal" mistakes that are made from me and the rest if one guy is so bad that he actually counts as enemy. And the fact that im better as a support char then as a carry. Such games happen often in the last times and are simply not enjoyable, I also dont enjoy it if the enemy team has such a player, or more of them, and we stomp them. Im really out of ideas how I get to a better rating to avoid such players if its even possible.

 

[Castanova]

Just had a game which ALMOST made up for all the horrible games I've gotten since the patch. I was on Slark, our Invoker failed and then rage-quitted at level 9 after the enemy Nyx/BH continually ganked him, then me and my teammate Huskar carried our team to a 4v5 victory.

Cromwell, it's tough as a pure support in pubs because you rely too much on your mid to snowball properly and you rely on your carries to farm properly. It's probably better to pick more "impact" characters where, if you feel like you're too good for this crap, you can actually prove it without having to actually play a carry. Like, Nyx or Rubick or Magnus something like that. Also, I prefer playing right clickers so I'll see if you're on when I'm on anytime soon.

 

[MetalCraze]

Every single venomancer I had in my games thought that he is a carry and fed fiercely. You are not alone Cromwell.

 

[Cromwell]

Wha I would really like to know is, how theese really bad lplayers manage to not even learn the slightest thing. The mentioned venomancer had 260 games, which all in all is not that much, and afterall im not very god either, but it escapes me how someone can play this bad after so much hours put into the game. he even maneged to win at least 111 of them and even if he was carried in theese games by miuch better players at least he had to see what they did and what happened overall and elarned something from it.

 

[Hellraiser]

It's because people are utter morons. You get a guy with an attitude that he can do no wrong, probably because he's Russian, living in denial is their national specialty which was hammered into their heads by various tsars, despots and other comrades for centuries after all, so if he loses it's because his team sucks, what else.

He's 0/10/0 by 20 minutes? The team sucks because they all stole kills from him like the retards they are, also they stole all the assists. He gets caught alone 1v5 in the enemy jungle and killed for the 6th time like that when everyone is telling him to go back? His team is retarded obviously and of course the team sucks, they should all be following him into an obvious ambush in the unwarded enemy jungle, when at half hp after a major fight and the entire enemy already respawned and is missing.

Certain things you can't explain with anything else but utter retardation. Mid comes to gank my lane, he's chilling out of sight in the trees waiting for the enemy laners to come closer. The other guy in the lane thinks the best way to make sure the gank works is to push the lane as much as possible, engage under his tower when me and the mid stay back so he dies alone. Then he blames the mid laner for not engaging and letting him die. Fucking ganking, how does it work? If he didn't know what a gank is and how it's called I would say he's just a newbie but he was familiar with the concept so

Also I believe sniper is a bigger noob magnet than venomancer. They always feed because they fail to realize that a sniper should use his long range as his name suggests, so people just walk up to them and kill them. But that could be because I'm playing with people who are totally new to this. Or they are so bad they get matched with a guy who started playing like last week and is randoming heroes nearly every game because he has no idea who does what for the most part (I'm doing decently most of the time because apparently being able to think is already a huge advantage over a lot of the people I play against). Honestly, I got matched with people who had a few hundred games, on my second game ever of Dota 2. They actually asked us which game it was for us since they kept getting matched with total newbies, WTF valve.

 

[Cromwell]

I just noticed that the recent match history is capped at 39 pages which would be 507 games, so after that its not possible to look up what percentage of win/loss a player has. which drives me crazy right now because now it is immossible to look some bigmouth up : (. And of yourse no dotabuff either.

 

[Space Satan]

Number of wins does not matter, if you play random. If you play a lot as cerain heroes, then your skill goes up, if you random all the time since lvl1 then your most probably will suck.

Also, the biggest noob-magnets from my experience, is Magnus, Gyro, Bane and, most important - Pudge. Special thanks to ongoing Internationals.

 

[DakaSha]

So can you smartcast in this yet?

 

[MetalCraze]

Also I believe sniper is a bigger noob magnet than venomancer. They always feed because they fail to realize that a sniper should use his long range as his name suggests, so people just walk up to them and kill them.

Durr it sez sniper is a carry and he is also long range so dat meanz nobody will b able to touch me while I get 1 vs. 3 killz

Drow is a bigger magnet though. Since with a sniper there's a bigger chance that a tard will get lucky and willl frag and live to tell the tale due to his range. In noob games all tards always run away from the Drow so Drow players think Drow is OP and they can rape. Until they meet someone who knows how to disable Drow's ult (which is easy as fuck) and rape the fuck out of her in 3-4 seconds

Riki - another great noob magnet. Because noobs incubate Riki tards. When all you need to do is get sentry wards and dust around the time Riki reaches lvl 5 and start raping him since he's mostly 1v1 hero (unless retards feed him ofc)

 

[Malakal]

If I solo queue I just quit the game if one of the following heroes is picked in my team: sniper, bloodseeker, huskar, antimage, meepo or if we get more than two carry heroes. I also quit if enemy team picks phantom lancer or antimage. Those games are either lost or so boring as to not worth playing. In general having one afk farmer hero in the team really sucks and removes all enjoyment from the game.

When I queue with a party it doesn't matter as much granted some people think its fun to pick meepo. Well it may but fun for you but its not fun for the team that has to deal with that... think about other people please.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

You shouldn't quit if there's an antimage on the other team, he's actually pretty bad

 

[MetalCraze]

Yeah why the hate for Anti-Mage?

He's good only late game if he's farmed. Before Manta he doesn't do much damage.

 

[Malakal]

Because anti mage is 45 min farm then 5 min right click. On either side. And I dont trust my solo queue partners to gank him enough.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Why is CDS in the title of this thread? Only Skyway and some rare randomfags play.

 

[Malakal]

Why is CDS in the title of this thread? Only Skyway and some rare randomfags play.

We usually have a full Codex party.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

CDS =/= Codex

 

[MetalCraze]

Yes Sov will hear of this copyright infringement

 

[DakaSha]

niggers can you smartcast or not? I seem to get conflicting shit online. i'd give this another try but thats the only thing holding me back. I know that mentioning smartcast in dota causes butthurt but maybe they will (or have) change it some day to get more lol players?

 

[Malakal]

There are several skills that can be put on autocast but no skill that can be put on smartcast. Sorry, you are going to have to actually play the game. BTW using autocast isnt advisable either.