Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

[Wulfstand]

Sorry for quitting the game all of a sudden, Zed, meh, the last one got to my nerves a bit. We'll play some more tomorrow, if you'll want to, I had quite a bit of fun today.
The item drops are completely bonkers, I managed to get 12/2/12 with mirana this one game, and I got jack shit as a reward.

 

[Zed]

items are 100% random, unless you "level up" your battle point level. then you're guaranteed an item.

the games were fun.

you can't let the games get to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnQ-5uFuDtc

 

[Castanova]

Stuff.

Makes sense -- I've had success playing CK normally as well. I was just thinking about a random pub build to try out, just for kicks really.

I think they fucked up the matchmaking recently or something. Very high quotient or retards per game now. I just played a game where Drow Ranger's starting items were boots of elvenkin and Morphling naked-rushed a Eaglesong...

 

[Damned Registrations]

Midas might be good for kicks, in the same way MoM is on Tiny. A super farmed ck is a nightmare, he can basically rax with illusions while winning a teamfight with his other skills.

 

[Hoodoo]

played ad necro yesterday and did alright - phase sny radi and then working on aghs

I like to play heroes with decent ms, can make for some good situations like leading there whole team on a chase through your jungle or coming speeding out of their jungle, cast all your spells for a kill, and then another getaway.

Played a game with kc awhile ago but he was apparently halfway through a bottle of vodka and then he randomed batrider

Do most of you use your rpgcodex names on yr steam accounts? Il add a few next time im on, my user is the[REAL]Hu$tla -92'

 

[Castanova]

I'm Castanova on Steam, yeah.

I played a PA game last night where I went with Na'Vi's XBOCT's build (from the Star Ladder finals) -- Basilius -> Phase Boots -> Vanguard -> BKB. I'm not sure how I felt about it. I was obviously a fair amount beefier than your typical PA but there were a couple fights near the end of the game where I was whacking away at an enemy and felt like I was doing very little damage. Maybe I just was getting unlucky with crits or something.

 

[Zed]

it's usually meh who gets groups going, I think.

 

[Malakal]

I'm Castanova on Steam, yeah.

I played a PA game last night where I went with Na'Vi's XBOCT's build (from the Star Ladder finals) -- Basilius -> Phase Boots -> Vanguard -> BKB. I'm not sure how I felt about it. I was obviously a fair amount beefier than your typical PA but there were a couple fights near the end of the game where I was whacking away at an enemy and felt like I was doing very little damage. Maybe I just was getting unlucky with crits or something.

I any serious environment BKB is a must or you wont do any damage at all. In pubs you only need lifesteal and damage.

My steam name is Malakal. You can add me, we could play a few games.

 

[Castanova]

I any serious environment BKB is a must or you wont do any damage at all. In pubs you only need lifesteal and damage.

After the BKB, I got a Helm of the Dominator for a little damage and lifesteal. Maybe the Vanguard was overkill. Could have just gone straight for the BKB -> HoD -> more damage?

It seems like no one builds attack speed on PA, though. I guess the idea is that your Phantom Strike grants +100% attack speed for 4 hits and you can use it every 5 seconds? Still, I feel like when you're relying on a 15% proc for your entire damage output, you couldn't possibly have enough attack speed. I'm thinking about going BKB -> Hyperstone -> HoD -> finish AC next time.

 

[kingcomrade]

Midas isn't good because Chaos Knight needs few items to start murdering, and you want to do it ASAP. It's honestly why I hate jungle midas prophet, because it takes too long before you can start TP ganking. Chaos Knight isn't like a super hard carry who needs a lot of items. I mean you can start killing people with like treads wand/soul ring, honestly. He's so strong so early, midas just makes you miss a window where you would otherwise be extremely strong. I really don't like the idea very much. I'm sure it could be made to work, but I'd rather honestly just get treads and half my armlet/drums instead.

I played a PA game last night where I went with Na'Vi's XBOCT's build (from the Star Ladder finals) -- Basilius -> Phase Boots -> Vanguard -> BKB. I'm not sure how I felt about it.

That's the standard build for PA that I've been using for the last year or two (though last time I played her was back in Dota 1, i haven't picked her in Dota 2 except in a bot game to try her when she was released), cept you can substitute phase for treads, it's a matter of preference. It gives her everything she needs when she needs it. If you were having trouble doing damage I think you might have just had too low a GPM because that's not an expensive build. PA doesn't need damage items early on, her crit is good enough. Like a lot of heroes who have abilities that give them a lot of damage (viper, for example) it's better to tank up early and get damage items later on.

 

[Castanova]

Makes sense. I definitely didn't get good enough GPM in that PA game but my opponents certainly didn't do anything better so I figured it wouldn't have really mattered. It feels kind of tough to get lots of farm with PA. It's easy in the lane phase since you can dagger for free last hits even against a tough lane but after that I feel like she's fairly slow... can't blink around the jungle, harder to escape from ganks, can be slightly annoying to manage your last hits because if you get a crit that you don't want on a full-life creep, the other creeps might steal the last hit, etc. I feel like my AM GPM is like 50% higher, even without Battlefury.

 

[kingcomrade]

Yeah that's always gonna be true, AM is one of the most fantastic agi carry farmers in the game and it's one of the reasons he's so good, his farming speed (and how safely he farms with blink and spell shield).
People do get Battlefury on her a lot, I don't think it's particularly bad, I just think it hurts your survivability a bit. On the other hand, contrary to popular belief the damage on a battlefury is significant and will allow you to do more damage early on in fights.

 

[kingcomrade]

By the way guys I'm sorry I'm not playing that much, I've gotten a few invites while I wasn't there. I'm bogged down with boring real life shit, but soon I'll be able to get back to what's important in my life

Damned Registrations did you watch Barny play that game of league of legends with that chick? That guy has a good sense of humor, though honestly mocking teenagers is kind of easymode

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

THe #1 reason for his former popularity in d2 competitive play though is Manta, the #2 is how *fast* he can farm it.

 

[meh]

We play at least 1-3 games every evening (CET) depending on mood/heroes/success if anyone wants to join. Usually we gather 2-4 codexers so there's room for more. Skill level or heroes you play doesn't matter!

 

[Hoodoo]

dayum

you get that often DR? 1k exp per min, I dont think ive even ever seen that.

 

[Damned Registrations]

No, I've only got that once. Mostly because you need to end the game quickly enough, if you reach level 25 you stop gaining xp. Though ~800 isn't uncommon on Huskar. Go mid, get a kill on some overagressive chump, solo rosh, farm jungle + stack ancients, push a tower and get more kills using aegis, and you'll be sitting on treads helm and armlet very very early, pretty much unstoppable. Stacking ancients and soloing rosh both give crazy xp/minute, and once you're ahead by enough you can just win 1v3 fights, which is the key to getting insanely high xp, not having to split it with your allies.

 

[meh]

So... Visage, Nerubian Assassin and KotL has been added, but more importantly, my jungle sand king got whole lot better:

Sand King: Neutrals can now be damaged by Sandstorm.

 

[Wulfstand]

Wir spielen litel dotau?
meh , Damned Registrations , hoodoo , kingcomrade , Zed , Castanova

 

[meh]

Nah, I've been pretty busy all week and more so in the upcoming weekend.

 

[Zed]

kotl is imba

Wulfstand I got home yesterday so I'm cleaning up my apartment and shit
I'll play tonight

 

[Hoodoo]

bad games last couple days so might go out this weekend or summin


but probably wont

 

[Castanova]

KotL looks to be a money, money hero.

NA on the other hand looks like a piece of shit lulz hero.

Visage seems pretty bad, too, for pub games although I suppose his nuke would power up really fast if he lanes with a KotL who lands his Illuminate.

 

[Damned Registrations]

I'm playing Path of Exile. Theres a 2 week hardcore ladder race on right now, so I'll probably be glued to that until I die.

 

[Castanova]

Just played a game as KotL. He's pretty awesome, indeed. I went mid against NA, went Mana Leak as my first skill choice, and just annihilated him in the lane. He got no farm and he couldn't even use his ult at 6 without running back to base first to recharge. Then, they also had an Ursa on their team who I usually neutralized via my Blinding spell and Mana Leak so he couldn't chase. And that's not even mentioning the mass aoe damage and sick push/counterpush I was doing the whole game, all while refilling Ogre Magi's mana bar constantly.