Divinity: Original Sin Pre-Release Thread

[Davaris]

Was it smart to code an engine when you can license something like this?

Some company owners do it, because they don't want to trust their company's future, to the whims another company. Its all about having total control over the process, so you are certain of the outcome.

 

[Xenich]

Was it smart to code an engine when you can license something like this?

Some company owners do it, because they don't want to trust their company's future, to the whims another company. Its all about having total control over the process, so you are certain of the outcome.

Exactly. There is a time and place to use 3rd party (personally I think the only reason is when you are limited on time and money), but if you are planning an entire line of games for the future, it is more beneficial to use a proprietary engine that you have full control over. Using 3rd party always has a nasty way of sucker punching you or greatly limiting your choices (ie the 3rd parties decisions begins to constrain and dictate your development).

 

[codexian reject]

They've said they're using the tech they've used for Div2, so it's Gamebryo.

 

[evdk]

They've said they're using the tech they've used in Div2, so it's Gamebryo.

Quite the opposite, actually.

 

[Davaris]

They've said they're using the tech they've used for Div2, so it's Gamebryo.

Please tell me you guys didn't use GameBryo again. I don't think I could handle any more microstutter even in a turn-based game.

It's not Gamebryo. It's our own engine.

 

[Mortmal]

Is this a unity engine game?

No. They have awesome programmers. Larian made that engine.

Divinity

Wasteland

Was it smart to code an engine when you can license something like this?

Most subtle trolling there 10/10

 

[Nithrakis]

They've said they're using the tech they've used for Div2, so it's Gamebryo.

According to Swen they created a brand new engine for these games (Dragon Commander & D:OS) but in an interview he also implied that some of the RPG tech is from earlier games. This is probably code for conversation systems, quest systems, specific algroithms, etc.

Programmers rarely throwout 100% of their previous work even when starting from scratch. Well, I never do. It would be a monumental waste.

 

[Bluebottle]

Congrats Larian. This has quickly become my most anticipated KS project.

Now we just have to press gang some enterprising group of people into starting work on the obvious Ultima remakes.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I've said it before and I will say it again: please confine Roguey to the kitchen.

Fix'd?

 

[PhantasmaNL]

Real programmers also sometimes think they can create a much better, nay superior wheel, better than all that were, since the beginning of time, if they just started from scratch. I know i do. The urge to Create instead of getting something insta ready from a shelf is sometimes hard to resist.
That said i can see the business case for developing your own in house engine. For that to succeed you need some good (=real) programmers though plus designers gifted with a considerable degree of foresight or a functioning crystal ball.

 

[ForkTong]

For me there are 2 reasons for not using some 3rd party engine:
- no source code
- what if company that made it goes bankrupt or stops supporting it all of a sudden

If we would be interested in a 3rd party engine, it probably wouldn't be Unity for a game like this anyway.

Also: the mother of all hangovers.

 

[Stabwound]

Funny when people start saying that using a custom engine is worse than building something with a Unity base. Give me a break. Look at how moddable they were able to make the game: supposedly you could create nearly any existing CRPG in the engine, including a full Ultima 7 remake. Edgy ones plz.

 

[Angthoron]

Not to mention potentially selling the engine for others' use rather than buying someone else's license.

 

[Tytus]

Everything is shit. Chris Avellone is god.

And because Avellone is working with Unity everyone has to. Right, Codex?

 

[evdk]

Everything is shit. Chris Avellone is god.

And because Avellone is working with Unity everyone has to. Right, Codex?

Silence. We're having a Schism.

 

[Infinitron]

Meh. There's room enough for everybody. Larian can be the ObsidinXile of the East.

 

[evdk]

I'm afraid that bloody sectarian violence is mandatory.

 

[Monty]

Everything is shit. Chris Avellone is god.

Pretty simple really, Avellone is God, Swen is Jesus...... and HiddenX is Judas Iscariot.

 

[Gozma]

Funny when people start saying that using a custom engine is worse than building something with a Unity base. Give me a break. Look at how moddable they were able to make the game: supposedly you could create nearly any existing CRPG in the engine, including a full Ultima 7 remake. Edgy ones plz.

Hey stab, you have taste, can you point me to what got you excited about this game? I heard about it, looked at the kickstarter, and saw the gorilla orcs and WoW style armor and blew it off. Then the Codex loved on it for a while and I looked again and it looked like it's for people that love opening boxes to find Diablo X of the Y junk items. Was there some combat video that let people overlook that kinda shit and say, "Oh they have to make it look like WoW, it's just business" and similar for the Diablerie or am I just totally out of touch with the Codex and no one else minds

 

[Tytus]

Funny when people start saying that using a custom engine is worse than building something with a Unity base. Give me a break. Look at how moddable they were able to make the game: supposedly you could create nearly any existing CRPG in the engine, including a full Ultima 7 remake. Edgy ones plz.

Hey stab, you have taste, can you point me to what got you excited about this game? I heard about it, looked at the kickstarter, and saw the gorilla orcs and WoW style armor and blew it off. Then the Codex loved on it for a while and I looked again and it looked like it's for people that love opening boxes to find Diablo X of the Y junk items. Was there some combat video that let people overlook that kinda shit and say, "Oh they have to make it look like WoW, it's just business" and shit like that or am I just totally out of touch with the Codex and no one else minds

BUT, BUT!

Female orcs had a sexy figure and giant boobs! GIANT BOOBS, MAN!

 

[tuluse]

Hey stab, you have taste, can you point me to what got you excited about this game? I heard about it, looked at the kickstarter, and saw the gorilla orcs and WoW style armor and blew it off. Then the Codex loved on it for a while and I looked again and it looked like it's for people that love opening boxes to find Diablo X of the Y junk items. Was there some combat video that let people overlook that kinda shit and say, "Oh they have to make it look like WoW, it's just business" and similar for the Diablerie or am I just totally out of touch with the Codex and no one else minds

I don't think the engine has much to do with WoW cartoon look.

 

[Gozma]

Yes quoted part has nothing to do with the question, it was just me being lazy and hoping Stab was still online and would give an immediate response to a quote-alert. Could have just tagged him. You also have taste tuluse, explain attraction of game please

 

[Infinitron]

Funny when people start saying that using a custom engine is worse than building something with a Unity base. Give me a break. Look at how moddable they were able to make the game: supposedly you could create nearly any existing CRPG in the engine, including a full Ultima 7 remake. Edgy ones plz.

Hey stab, you have taste, can you point me to what got you excited about this game? I heard about it, looked at the kickstarter, and saw the gorilla orcs and WoW style armor and blew it off. Then the Codex loved on it for a while and I looked again and it looked like it's for people that love opening boxes to find Diablo X of the Y junk items. Was there some combat video that let people overlook that kinda shit and say, "Oh they have to make it look like WoW, it's just business" and similar for the Diablerie or am I just totally out of touch with the Codex and no one else minds

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and NWN-level module making capabilities.

 

[AstroZombie]

Funny when people start saying that using a custom engine is worse than building something with a Unity base. Give me a break. Look at how moddable they were able to make the game: supposedly you could create nearly any existing CRPG in the engine, including a full Ultima 7 remake. Edgy ones plz.

Hey stab, you have taste, can you point me to what got you excited about this game? I heard about it, looked at the kickstarter, and saw the gorilla orcs and WoW style armor and blew it off. Then the Codex loved on it for a while and I looked again and it looked like it's for people that love opening boxes to find Diablo X of the Y junk items. Was there some combat video that let people overlook that kinda shit and say, "Oh they have to make it look like WoW, it's just business" and similar for the Diablerie or am I just totally out of touch with the Codex and no one else minds

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and NWN-level module making capabilities.

My head nearly exploded after reading that sentence.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Funny when people start saying that using a custom engine is worse than building something with a Unity base. Give me a break. Look at how moddable they were able to make the game: supposedly you could create nearly any existing CRPG in the engine, including a full Ultima 7 remake. Edgy ones plz.

Hey stab, you have taste, can you point me to what got you excited about this game? I heard about it, looked at the kickstarter, and saw the gorilla orcs and WoW style armor and blew it off. Then the Codex loved on it for a while and I looked again and it looked like it's for people that love opening boxes to find Diablo X of the Y junk items. Was there some combat video that let people overlook that kinda shit and say, "Oh they have to make it look like WoW, it's just business" and similar for the Diablerie or am I just totally out of touch with the Codex and no one else minds

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and NWN-level module making capabilities.

And they made a TB-RTS with the same engine.