Better, than the test site, blander than the past.

[Taluntain]

Taluntain, if you're looking for some constructive feedback, aside from WIP layout size I think the new colour scheme's also making things a little less lisible. On the old design, you basically had the grey #3f3f3f background and then mainly alternating all elements between the lighter #484f5f and the darker #354056 (was there an odd/even split, I forget?). On the new one, you've got a background grey of #383838, two lights #38404f and 3e4857 for odd/even posts, a dark #283246 on the side, plus a #324155 shade for quotes, plus other minutiae.

So a) you've got like 5+ distinct colours making for a busier flow, and b) the overall darker shades create a higher contrast, which might look more "modern", but I felt that the more desaturated schema of the old design made for a more comfortable reading experience. May be subtle, but rolling back on these might help air things out a little bit.

Colours are up to Twiglard, he's changed the layout completely in that regard.

 

[Gargaune]

I changed the main font size back to 15px, which is still too small, but at least it's a little better.

Yep, looks better!

Colours are up to Twiglard, he's changed the layout completely in that regard.

Ah, thanks! Twiglard, tagging you for below:

Taluntain, if you're looking for some constructive feedback, aside from WIP layout size I think the new colour scheme's also making things a little less lisible. On the old design, you basically had the grey #3f3f3f background and then mainly alternating all elements between the lighter #484f5f and the darker #354056 (was there an odd/even split, I forget?). On the new one, you've got a background grey of #383838, two lights #38404f and 3e4857 for odd/even posts, a dark #283246 on the side, plus a #324155 shade for quotes, plus other minutiae.

So a) you've got like 5+ distinct colours making for a busier flow, and b) the overall darker shades create a higher contrast, which might look more "modern", but I felt that the more desaturated schema of the old design made for a more comfortable reading experience. May be subtle, but rolling back on these might help air things out a little bit.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Could we get a bigger contrast on topics with new posts and ones without new posts? If you're quickly trying to see where new posts start on a particular forum it be a little hard to tell where they begin.

 

[Stokowski]

You hid all the lovely response buttons under the brofist icon. Cunts.

Well played.

 

[Humanophage]

Will it be possible to view who gave what ratings to a post? If it is possible, that's not intuitive at all. It is an important element of interaction on the website. Getting a retardo from Licorice is quite different from getting a retardo from a regular user, for instance.

Also, the slight zoom-in on ratings on mouse-over makes them blurry and ugly. They already clash with the nu design, no need to make it even worse. Why not have the old interface for ratings where they appear on mousing over a post? It was quite good and looked modern. I also don't understand the point of boxes for each rating. The old way of reflecting ratings was much more aesthetic (excluding the donut).

And something needs to be done about the online sign. It's ugly and clashes with avatars, cluttering things. Maybe add it as a tiny dot or square next to "arcane" or whatever, not on top of the avatar.

 

[Taluntain]

I made the reactions icon (brofist) clickable to make it consistent with the alerts button now.

 

[Nano]

I made the reactions icon (brofist) clickable to make it consistent with the alerts button now.

This is not a good change. The less clicks the better.

 

[Taluntain]

Hover only works on desktops, the idea is to make the forums work consistently across all devices, otherwise you make mistakes clicking things when you shouldn't when moving from one button to another or from mobiles to desktops and vice versa. The XF devs changed this for a good reason.

 

[Nano]

Hover only works on desktops, the idea is to make the forums work consistently across all devices, otherwise you make mistakes clicking things when you shouldn't and vice versa when moving from one button to another or from mobiles to desktops and vice versa. The XF devs changed this for a good reason.

Holy fuck, this place is really going full mobile-retard, isn't it?

You're an oldfag, do you remember how once upon a time different game platforms used to get whole ass different versions of video games? So what if you hover on something on desktop and click on it on mobile, why does it have to be uniform instead of catering to the strengths of each platform?

 

[Taluntain]

This why: "the idea is to make the forums work consistently across all devices, otherwise you make mistakes clicking things when you shouldn't when moving from one button to another or from mobiles to desktops and vice versa". It's a pretty simple usability concept, we get used to doing things one way and expect it to work the same way no matter which platform we use. There's nothing "mobile-retard" about it. Making common navigation elements behave differently across devices only serves to annoy users, it's not a benefit.

 

[Taluntain]

Also, search should work now.

 

[Nano]

Making common navigation elements behave differently across devices only serves to annoy users, it's not a benefit.

So you're saying you want to cater to retards?

 

[Taluntain]

So anyone who uses both desktops and mobiles is a retard?

 

[Sacibengala]

when will the home button work again?

 

[Nano]

So anyone who uses a mobile is a retard?

I browse Codex on my phone half the time and I literally never had any issues. There was nothing that needed to be fixed.

 

[Humanophage]

This why: "the idea is to make the forums work consistently across all devices, otherwise you make mistakes clicking things when you shouldn't when moving from one button to another or from mobiles to desktops and vice versa". It's a pretty simple usability concept, we get used to doing things one way and expect it to work the same way no matter which platform we use. There's nothing "mobile-retard" about it. Making common navigation elements behave differently across devices only serves to annoy users, it's not a benefit.

How many people use both the mobile and the desktop version, and on top of that are too dense to understand how to use ratings? Taking the worst of the two worlds. Oh well.

But will it be possible to view the authors of ratings for other people's posts? E.g., I'd like to see who gave the butthurt rating to Nano. Would be consistent with the clicking on brofist that you can click on the ratings panel and see who gave which rating.

 

[Nano]

E.g., I'd like to see who gave the butthurt rating to Nano.

Courtesy of Correct_Carlo. Thanks, buddy.

 

[agris]

I browse Codex on my phone half the time and I literally never had any issues. There was nothing that needed to be fixed.

As a frequent mobile user of safari on iOS I completely agree. I never used the old template and thought “this sucks”. And I used the desktop PC version of the site with Firefox the majority of the time.

 

[Taluntain]

I browse Codex on my phone half the time and I literally never had any issues. There was nothing that needed to be fixed.

Good to hear you never had any issues. You're mistaking your own experience with that of everyone else, however, which is not identical.

But will it be possible to view the authors of ratings for other people's posts? E.g., I'd like to see who gave the butthurt rating to Nano.

I wrote that this is pending a fix a couple of pages back, so yes.

 

[racofer]

You're mistaking your own experience with that of everyone else

Oh, the irony.

 

[Taluntain]

Nothing really ironic about a website user with no knowledge of the application background assuming that he knows better in what shape the app is in than the admin who's worked with the app on a daily basis for more than a decade.

 

[Nano]

Good to hear you never had any issues. You're mistaking your own experience with that of everyone else, however, which is not identical.

There's someone right above you agreeing with me. And I've never seen anyone complain about the mobile version.

Nothing really ironic about a website user with no knowledge of the application background assuming that he knows better in what shape the app is in than the admin who's worked with the app on a daily basis for more than a decade.

What app? I browse the 'Dex in my browser.

 

[Taluntain]

Ah, ok. Because someone else didn't experience any obvious issues, it was all good. Gotcha.

What's even your point? The mobile version is part of the XF core. It gets updated alongside the core. We didn't upgrade XF on account of mobile anything but because the core was hopelessly outdated and unsupported. Mobile just happened to share its fate. It didn't even have push notifications, which have been standard for years. Now it does.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

We don't need to see purple peeper pumping his peter.

 

[Nano]

Ah, ok. Because someone else didn't experience any obvious issues, it was all good. Gotcha.

What's even your point? The mobile version is part of the XF core. It gets updated alongside the core. We didn't upgrade XF on account of mobile anything but because the core was hopelessly outdated and unsupported. Mobile just happened to share its fate. It didn't even have push notifications, which have been standard for years. Now it does.

I'm saying I want you to give me back the ability to fucking hover to press buttons on desktop.